To those who watched the debates. . .

[DevilsAlum]

The President certainly did better than last time which helps him.

 

Senator Kerry was laughable with his "read my lips" pledge.

 

I hope this I have a plan rhetoric starts to numb the American people. In 2000 Hillary spent a lot of time here in WNY talking about how she had a plan for the economic recovery of upstate. Exit polling info showed that one of the main reasons people voted for Hillary is because they felt she had a plan. We're still waiting.

[blzrul]

Bush didn't twitch as much, but it was there. Instead he strutted around like a little rooster. He did better this time, the town hall is his milieu. I agree that Kerry's abortion answer was pretty incoherent but several of Bush's were likewise.

 

Bush teed up a few for Kerry last night that he could have hit out of the park had he chosen to, or perhaps he didn't notice. When Bush was cornered on Iraq and started to blame his generals I would have loved to hear Kerry say that getting bad advice may not have been his fault but as President the buck stops with him...shoot, even JFK took the blame for the Bay of Pigs, which he inherited from Nixon and Eisenhower, because it happened on his watch and he was responsible.

 

Bush's inability to admit to ever making a mistake is something to behold.

 

And I thought his jokes were pretty un-Presidential. Not necessarily the words but the delivery. He giggled! He's a joke.

 

But as I said, even though he acted on occasion like the village idiot I will admit he did far better than the first debate.

[BillsGuyInMalta]

The lumber remark by Bush was pretty funny...although I'm sure he's laughing a lot less now that he knows it was true. The fact that Kerry found that out in the first place shows to me just how much preparation both canidates must go through before these debates.

[Chef Jim]

The lumber remark by Bush was pretty funny...although I'm sure he's laughing a lot less now that he knows it was true.  The fact that Kerry found that out in the first place shows to me just how much preparation both canidates must go through before these debates.

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The fact that Kerry found out the becuase Bush received $80 from a lumber company he "owns" that makes him a small business owner and that's why he and Dick Cheney are fighting the tax increase because it will harm small business owners. What a crock.

 

What they are referring to is anyone filing a schedule C or filing as a sub chapter S-Corp and making over $200k per year........not $80! That translates into your local dry cleaner, beautician, contractor, landscape company owner, liquor store owner, restaurant owner, etc. And if you think these people are not making that much money you're probably wrong.

 

I have a client who started a small business this year and will file under an S-Corp. They are netting in profit in excess of $100k per month! That will go to her and her sister as income and taxed at their rate. They are freaking out as to where they will get the money to pay the taxes. And if Kerry gets elected their taxes will increase by 5%. That's $60k in additional taxes. Guess who is hiring one to two less people next year if Kerry gets elected? Get it??

[Rich in Ohio]

A slight win for the president. The main reason I say that is because his performance (not substance) was lacking in the 1st debate and that was the only difference there. kerry did nothing more this time, same rhetoric, same level of promising spending , and feeling our pain. So there was really nowhere for kerry to go, I mean what was he going to do promise a trillion more in new goverment programs.

 

GWB did ok, especially as he got more attention directed towards kerrys weak senate record.

 

But what I realized was kerry may be impossible to beat in a debate. The reason is, he has no hesitation at all to say anything. Really, he made more promises, with less substance then even our good friend slick willy. There is no way to challenge kerry because he will never be asked any tough questions by the elite media, nor will he even answer if he was asked directly. He truely understands that he can say litterally anything. hell at one point last night, he even told the president that he owned a lumber company. Of course all the president could do was thank johhny for the information because it was news to him. There is really no way to deal with this type of weasel.....he will do and say anything.

[Paco]

I'm still waiting for Kerry to answer the question posed by the women; "We have not been attacked on US Soil since 9/11. Why do you think that is?"

 

Kerry responded something to the effect that: "I've asked in my security briefings why that is, and I can't go into all the answers, et cetera, but let me say this to you. Bush Bad. I'm not Bush, so I'm not bad."

 

What a maroon.

 

And Chef...

 

They are freaking out as to where they will get the money to pay the taxes.

 

That's what they gotta pay them quarterly, man. I know, you know that. But when you see it coming in, you know some of it's gonna go back out.

 

But it's the extra amount Kerry wants to tax us that will keep a small business like mine from hiring more people. He keeps referring to "taxing the 2%" and hopes that anyone not making $200K will say "Yeah, let's get the rich bastards."

 

I'm not rich. I own my own company as an S-Corp. I'm about to hire another person. But I'm waiting to see if Kerry is elected so I'll know whether I can afford it. If he's elected, I won't be able to expand because I'm too small and can't afford to give extra money back to the government while providing this person a salary, benefits, etc. And it'll start with giving back the tax cut I received when he rolls that back.

 

I wish I invented ketchup. This wouldn't be happening to me.

[Captain America]

A slight win for the president. The main reason I say that is because his performance (not substance) was lacking in the 1st debate and that was the only difference there. kerry did nothing more this time, same rhetoric, same level of promising spending , and feeling our pain. So there was really nowhere for kerry to go, I mean what was he going to do promise a trillion more in new goverment programs.

 

GWB did ok, especially as he got more attention directed towards kerrys weak senate record.

 

But what I realized was kerry may be impossible to beat in a debate. The reason is, he has no hesitation at all to say anything. Really, he made more promises, with less substance then even our good friend slick willy. There is no way to challenge kerry because he will never be asked any tough questions by the elite media, nor will he even answer if he was asked directly. He truely understands that he can say litterally anything. hell at one point last night, he even told the president that he owned a lumber company. Of course all the president could do was thank johhny for the information because it was news to him. There is really no way to deal with this type of weasel.....he will do and say anything.

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John Kerry will turn our country over to foreign rule.The President should have taken the oportunity to exploit his oposition to a world court.Kerry is on record as being in favor of it.

Without having watched the debate (which I did),I could have told you Bush won the debate.All one would have to do his look at the reports this morning and there is little of nothing mentioned about them by the liberal media.Kerry is not the man to lead this country and most liberals know it ,but the cant bring themselves to vote for Bush.There is nothing wishy washy about Bush ,Kerry blows with the wind,.and he is sneaky

Did you know he owns four properties? Bush owns one. Bush paid 250,00 dollars in taxes Kerry paid 90,000.Kerry even had a barn dismantled in a foreign country and re assembled ove here for one of the properties. Kerry is a liberal elitist and he will tax you heaveily .The small business man that does make over tow hundred thousand will have to pay a higher tax will either have to go out of business or charge you more ofr his services. Who in their right minds wants more taxes.? Many people country wnat more and they want some body else who has worked hard to pay for them.

[Chalkie Gerzowski]

John Kerry will turn our country over to foreign rule.The President should have taken the oportunity to exploit his oposition to a world court.Kerry is on record as being in favor of it.

Without having watched the debate (which I did),I could have told you Bush won the debate.All one would have to do his look at the reports this morning and there is little of nothing mentioned about them by the liberal media.Kerry is not the man to lead this country and most liberals know it  ,but the cant bring themselves to vote for Bush.There is nothing wishy  washy about Bush ,Kerry blows with the wind,.and he is sneaky

Did you know he owns four properties? Bush owns one. Bush paid 250,00 dollars in taxes Kerry paid 90,000.Kerry even had a barn dismantled in a foreign country and re assembled ove here for one of the properties. Kerry is a liberal elitist and he will tax you heaveily .The small business man that does make over tow hundred thousand will have to pay a higher tax will either have to go out of business or charge you more ofr his services. Who in their right minds wants more taxes.? Many people country wnat more and they want some body else who has worked hard to pay for them.

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And who pays for the security of John John and Tuhrayyyyzah's chateaus, chalets and castles from Idaho to the Iberian peninsula? Why pays for the secret service keeping a 24/7 watch on those properties......You do of course.

 

:I starred in Brokeback Mountain: John Kerry, you egotistical brahmin bastard.

[Alaska Darin]

I AM BIASED!  I WILL NOT VOTE FOR GEORGE BUSH!  (that was for Alaska Darin! ):

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You were right about one thing in your post: you definately heard what you wanted to. Try watching the next debate liking the other candidate. Then you'll be able to figure out that they're both pretty much idiots.

 

Senator Kerry can think on his feet? If repeating the same things he's been stumping for almost a year qualifies as thinking on his feet, I guess you're right.

 

The fact that there is no follow-ups to the questions to get these two even more on the defensive is sad. There was a point in the debate when they were talking about their new spending plans and the numbers didn't even come close to adding up. Adding 2.2 TRILLION while bringing in $6-800 BILLION in revenue doesn't quite add up for these two fiscal "conservatives."

 

I love the taste of vomit.

[Paco]

You were right about one thing in your post:  you definately heard what you wanted to.  Try watching the next debate liking the other candidate.  Then you'll be able to figure out that they're both pretty much idiots.

 

Senator Kerry can think on his feet?  If repeating the same things he's been stumping for almost a year qualifies as thinking on his feet, I guess you're right.

 

The fact that there is no follow-ups to the questions to get these two even more on the defensive is sad.  There was a point in the debate when they were talking about their new spending plans and the numbers didn't even come close to adding up.  Adding 2.2 TRILLION while bringing in $6-800 BILLION in revenue doesn't quite add up for these two fiscal "conservatives."

 

I love the taste of vomit.

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Kerry came out and said the $2.2 trillion number was the Bush campaign using fuzzy math. THAT is the moment when I would have liked Gibson to ask, "Then what IS the number, Senator Kerry. If it's not $2.2 trillion, is it $1.2 trillion, because even THEN you have a significant gap! Where will you come up with the $600 billion dollars????"

 

Of course, we don't get to go there. Which is too bad. Someone needs to ask Kerry what the number is and how he plans to fund it.

[Chef Jim]

I'm still waiting for Kerry to answer the question posed by the women; "We have not been attacked on US Soil since 9/11. Why do you think that is?"

 

Kerry responded something to the effect that: "I've asked in my security briefings why that is, and I can't go into all the answers, et cetera, but let me say this to you. Bush Bad. I'm not Bush, so I'm not bad."

 

What a maroon.

 

And Chef...

That's what they gotta pay them quarterly, man. I know, you know that. But when you see it coming in, you know some of it's gonna go back out.

 

But it's the extra amount Kerry wants to tax us that will keep a small business like mine from hiring more people. He keeps referring to "taxing the 2%" and hopes that anyone not making $200K will say "Yeah, let's get the rich bastards."

 

I'm not rich. I own my own company as an S-Corp. I'm about to hire another person. But I'm waiting to see if Kerry is elected so I'll know whether I can afford it. If he's elected, I won't be able to expand because I'm too small and can't afford to give extra money back to the government while providing this person a salary, benefits, etc. And it'll start with giving back the tax cut I received when he rolls that back.

 

I wish I invented ketchup. This wouldn't be happening to me.

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And how many people in this country are in your situation. And can someone on the left tell me how this helps our economy. These appear to be two very examples of how raising taxes hurts the economy.

 

And Paco, as far as paying quarterly this really took them by suprise. They've only had the business up and running for probably less than two quarters. Not bad, in business for less than six months and pulling in nearly $100k in profits per month. Tough problem for us to be facing.

[GG]

And how many people in this country are in your situation.  And can someone on the left tell me how this helps our economy.  These appear to be two very examples of how raising taxes hurts the economy.

 

And Paco, as far as paying quarterly this really took them by suprise.  They've only had the business up and running for probably less than two quarters.  Not bad, in business for less than six months and pulling in nearly $100k in profits per month.  Tough problem for us to be facing.

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Not bad. Must be porn or drugs

[Paco]

They've only had the business up and running for probably less than two quarters.  Not bad, in business for less than six months and pulling in nearly $100k in profits per month.  Tough problem for us to be facing.

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This is just the kind of thing that makes this a great country...and pisses off the lefties...all in one fell swoop. These two entrepreneurs havent taken the intiative. Somewhere along the line they, like myself, decided they were never going to progress much father from a career standpoint. And more importantly, I didn't want to find myself 55 years old and waiting to get bumped by my employer. I had to take matters into my own hands.

 

Like your client, my business has been doing very well, relatively speaking. The key will be growth. Expansion to my business is inevitable, and expansion means I hire more people. We have orders, we have paying customers, we have opportunity...but if Kerry gets elected, I'll be stuck in a holding pattern because he's got half the middle class liberals thinking that I'M the bad guy with all the money!

 

First thing on his plate: take back my tax cut. Next thing on his plate: increase my tax burden. Last thing on his plate: never even remotely come close to getting a second term because he'll have all but buried the US economy.

 

This is a fundamental difference between Bush and Kerry, but since most liberals like being dependent upon the government to take care of them, none of them give a crap if people like me get taxed more. Somehow they feel that people with more money SHOULD pony up to cover their co-dependant asses instead of allowing me to contribute to the economy and make more jobs available.

 

Pathetic, really, when you think about it. Nice to know the first thing he'll do with my extra taxes and socialize health care.

[GG]

This is just the kind of thing that makes this a great country...and pisses off the lefties...all in one fell swoop. These two entrepreneurs havent taken the intiative. Somewhere along the line they, like myself, decided they were never going to progress much father from a career standpoint. And more importantly, I didn't want to find myself  55 years old and waiting to get bumped by my employer. I had to take matters into my own hands.

 

Like your client, my business has been doing very well, relatively speaking. The key will be growth. Expansion to my business is inevitable, and expansion means I hire more people. We have orders, we have paying customers, we have opportunity...but if Kerry gets elected, I'll be stuck in a holding pattern because he's got half the middle class liberals thinking that I'M the bad guy with all the money!

 

First thing on his plate: take back my tax cut. Next thing on his plate: increase my tax burden. Last thing on his plate: never even remotely come close to getting a second term because he'll have all but buried the US economy.

 

This is a fundamental difference between Bush and Kerry, but since most liberals like being dependent upon the government to take care of them, none of them give a crap if people like me get taxed more. Somehow they feel that people with more money SHOULD pony up to cover their co-dependant asses instead of allowing me to contribute to the economy and make more jobs available.

 

Pathetic, really, when you think about it. Nice to know the first thing he'll do with my extra taxes and socialize health care.

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Thanks for saving me time for typing a belated response in another thread about the bad corporate America.