Fezmid Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,,1889311,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,,1889311,00.html 797925[/snapback] While I don't condone the comments of this idiot, the freedom we have is slowly being taken away because of actions of a few morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 While I don't condone the comments of this idiot, the freedom we have is slowly being taken away because of actions of a few morons. 797928[/snapback] Well it sounds like he probably got in more trouble for having the kiddie porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Well it sounds like he probably got in more trouble for having the kiddie porn. 797933[/snapback] I didn't see the bottom part of the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted October 7, 2006 Author Share Posted October 7, 2006 Well it sounds like he probably got in more trouble for having the kiddie porn. 797933[/snapback] Last I checked, 2 years and eight months was greater than six months... "He was sentenced at Liverpool crown court to two years and eight months' in jail for the race hate crime and six months consecutively for the child pornography offences." I didn't see the bottom part of the article You didn't read the article?! Wow, I'm amazed. ( to be fair, this one did have a lot more words than the last one you refused to read). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 While I don't condone the comments of this idiot, the freedom we have is slowly being taken away because of actions of a few morons. 797928[/snapback] What freedoms? You're Canadian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 You didn't read the article?! Wow, I'm amazed. ( to be fair, this one did have a lot more words than the last one you refused to read). 797940[/snapback] Actually, I didn't read it because I opened the article, I browsed through the first 2 paragraphs and had to shut it off because I'm at work and wasn't paying attention to the fact that it continued after the ad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted October 7, 2006 Author Share Posted October 7, 2006 Actually, I didn't read it because I opened the article, I browsed through the first 2 paragraphs and had to shut it off because I'm at work and wasn't paying attention to the fact that it continued after the ad. 797943[/snapback] Nice try - but the child porn wasn't mentioned until the 5th paragraph, two paragraphs after the ad. Would you like to try again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Nice try - but the child porn wasn't mentioned until the 5th paragraph, two paragraphs after the ad. Would you like to try again? 797946[/snapback] And when did I mention child porn in my first post? Is something wrong, did you have a bad day... maybe you should just relax and calm down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted October 7, 2006 Author Share Posted October 7, 2006 And when did I mention child porn in my first post? Is something wrong, did you have a bad day... maybe you should just relax and calm down? 797948[/snapback] Actually having a very good day, thank you very much. Just don't know why you comment on every article without actually reading it is all. I misunderstood what you said when I replied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Actually having a very good day, thank you very much. Just don't know why you comment on every article without actually reading it is all. I misunderstood what you said when I replied. 797949[/snapback] Well even if I didn't read it.. to which I did now.. my opinion stays the same since I just finished reading 3 articles about people getting arrested for comments made on the internet. Unfortunately for a few bad apples, everything will be scrutinized and people will get arrested for this sh-- more and more often. For example, a dude in Quebec was arrested for making posts on a white supremicist site and his posts were racist in nature. The police invaded his house, found illegal firearms. Generally, we've all enjoyed the freedom of being able to say what we want openly on the internet while the only problems we would face would be the flames of other posters. Now, slowly, you're hearing more about people getting arrested for comments made on the net. Now I don't condone what the guy said (the racist remarks), these events are crossing the line that they can't turn back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted October 7, 2006 Author Share Posted October 7, 2006 Well even if I didn't read it.. to which I did now.. my opinion stays the same since I just finished reading 3 articles about people getting arrested for comments made on the internet. Unfortunately for a few bad apples, everything will be scrutinized and people will get arrested for this sh-- more and more often. For example, a dude in Quebec was arrested for making posts on a white supremicist site and his posts were racist in nature. The police invaded his house, found illegal firearms. Generally, we've all enjoyed the freedom of being able to say what we want openly on the internet while the only problems we would face would be the flames of other posters. Now, slowly, you're hearing more about people getting arrested for comments made on the net. Now I don't condone what the guy said (the racist remarks), these events are crossing the line that they can't turn back on. 797954[/snapback] Post the links, I'd like to see 'em (if you still have them). I'm torn on this one. Generally I'm very pro-liberty, but where do you draw the line? Inciting racial tensions isn't a good idea, and I don't know if it should be protected. I guess I'd like to see what the guy was writing... Now in the article you're quoting, that's different. The forum was dedicated to racism, so I don't have as much of a problem with that (content aside). Not quite black and white (no pun intended), but I do lean towards your view I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardFan Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 If only they could jail people for excessively anal nitpicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Post the links, I'd like to see 'em (if you still have them). I'm torn on this one. Generally I'm very pro-liberty, but where do you draw the line? Inciting racial tensions isn't a good idea, and I don't know if it should be protected. I guess I'd like to see what the guy was writing... Now in the article you're quoting, that's different. The forum was dedicated to racism, so I don't have as much of a problem with that (content aside). Not quite black and white (no pun intended), but I do lean towards your view I think. 797956[/snapback] This is one: http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news...b8-d73ee09255b1 You have to subscribe though, I read it because I purchased the newspaper today. The other ones were about a couple of kids who made comments against their schools, I can't find them. The problem is, let's say for example, someone hacks my forum account on let's say this forum and goes and makes death threats. It's just a scenario but a very possible one at that. By arresting people and not laying any direct law citing who can and who can't be prosecuted by internet comments, you're going to have many many problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted October 7, 2006 Author Share Posted October 7, 2006 The problem is, let's say for example, someone hacks my forum account on let's say this forum and goes and makes death threats. It's just a scenario but a very possible one at that. By arresting people and not laying any direct law citing who can and who can't be prosecuted by internet comments, you're going to have many many problems. 797961[/snapback] Actually, the only way to figure out who you are would be to go thorugh your IP address (which SDS has), then contact the ISP to find out who had the IP address at the time the post was made. So your scenario can't happen, unless your actual PC was compromised, and the police wouldn't go through all that trouble unless there was something really bad (or at least, I would hope that's the case...) I tried going to bugmenot.com to get a password, but none of them worked. Darn. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 If only they could jail people for excessively anal nitpicking. 797957[/snapback] anal nits are a PitA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Post the links, I'd like to see 'em (if you still have them). I'm torn on this one. Generally I'm very pro-liberty, but where do you draw the line? Inciting racial tensions isn't a good idea, and I don't know if it should be protected. I guess I'd like to see what the guy was writing... Now in the article you're quoting, that's different. The forum was dedicated to racism, so I don't have as much of a problem with that (content aside). Not quite black and white (no pun intended), but I do lean towards your view I think. 797956[/snapback] I'm not torn. Nazis were allowed to march in a parade in Skokie, Ill. The Supreme Court upheld this right. If I read it right, it would be the same thing that just b/c they marched in stupid khaki clothing wearing swastikas and verbally promoting (what was actually a small part of) Nazism, the police can break down their doors, search their drawers, and use their toilet. The First Amendment provides "freedom for the thought we hate." The other 99% of us can only hope to stamp it out by using the First in like kind to promote tolerance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted October 8, 2006 Author Share Posted October 8, 2006 I'm not torn. Nazis were allowed to march in a parade in Skokie, Ill. The Supreme Court upheld this right. If I read it right, it would be the same thing that just b/c they marched in stupid khaki clothing wearing swastikas and verbally promoting (what was actually a small part of) Nazism, the police can break down their doors, search their drawers, and use their toilet. The First Amendment provides "freedom for the thought we hate." The other 99% of us can only hope to stamp it out by using the First in like kind to promote tolerance. 798000[/snapback] I'm just wondering what was being posted. If it was things like, "I'm going to hunt down all you black people and kill you all," then that could be a problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 I'm just wondering what was being posted. If it was things like, "I'm going to hunt down all you black people and kill you all," then that could be a problem... 798013[/snapback] "I'mmmmmmm gonna get me a gun and kill ever-y whitey I seeeeeeeeee" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 "I'mmmmmmm gonna get me a gun and kill ever-y whitey I seeeeeeeeee" 798014[/snapback] I just reported you... not because I think you're violent, but because you're german and you never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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