When $15B Isn't Enough

[boomerjamhead]

Angelina Jolie criticizes Iraq war and US priorities

 

Hollywood megastar Angelina Jolie indirectly criticized the Iraq war and the priorities of the US government, in an interview with CNN on World Refugee Day.

 

"When you're in Washington to get money for AIDS orphans, the answer is often, we're at war right now," said the goodwill ambassador for the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) who has visited refugee camps around the world.

 

2003 State of the Union

 

# Prevent 7 million new infections (60 percent of the projected new infections in the target countries): The initiative will involve large-scale prevention efforts, including voluntary testing and counseling. The availability of treatment will enhance prevention efforts by providing an incentive for individuals to be tested.

 

# Treat 2 million HIV-infected people: Capitalizing on recent advances in ARV treatment, the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief will be the first global effort to provide advanced antiretroviral treatment on a large scale in the poorest, most afflicted countries.

 

# Care for 10 million HIV-infected individuals and AIDS orphans: The initiative will provide a range of care, including support for AIDS orphans

 

Breakdown of PEPFAR by the Brits.

 

How is the money to be divided between different areas of work?

 

Congress required that the PEPFAR money should be divided in the following way:

 

  1. 55% for the treatment of individuals with HIV/AIDS

      (and in FYs 2006 through 2008, 75% of this is to be spent on the purchase and distribution of antiretroviral drugs)

 

  2. 15% for the palliative care of individuals with HIV/AIDS

 

  3. 20% for HIV/AIDS prevention

      (of which at least 33% is to be spent on abstinence until marriage programs)

 

  4. 10% for helping orphans and vulnerable children

      (and in FYs 2006 through 2008, at least 50% (of the 10%) is to be provided through non-profit, non-governmental organisations, including faith-based organisations, that implement programs at the community level).

 

I guess it's just $15B for the drug companies after all.

[/dev/null]

Angelina Jolie criticizes Iraq war and US priorities

711528[/snapback]

 

I was hoping they'd have a pic of her in a Laura Croft outfit. What a disappointment

[Alaska Darin]

Yeah, let's spend a little more money on AIDS, since it's such a plague in the civilized world. How about something a little closer to home, Angelina? You know, like cancer, or BROKEN HOMES.

[Crap Throwing Monkey]

You know, like cancer, or BROKEN HOMES.

712004[/snapback]

 

[Kelly the Dog]

When Angelina Jolie starts seriously considering the criticism of her filmwork by senators and congressmen and the White House, I will start taking her political comments about anything other than film seriously. Otherwise, why would you even care or comment on what Angelina Jolie has to say about anything except getting naked?

[Kelly the Dog]

However, one point that does probably need to be made in this argument is this:

When CNN's Anderson Cooper marveled that she gives away a third of her earnings, Ms. Jolie laughed. "Yes, well, I have a stupid income for what I do for a living," she said.

[GG]

.... why would you even care or comment on what Angelina Jolie has to say about anything except getting naked?

712117[/snapback]

 

A visual like that would carry me through a crappy day.

[boomerjamhead]

When Angelina Jolie starts seriously considering the criticism of her filmwork by senators and congressmen and the White House, I will start taking her political comments about anything other than film seriously. Otherwise, why would you even care or comment on what Angelina Jolie has to say about anything except getting naked?

712117[/snapback]

 

Maybe because she is full of shi+ on this one.

 

Nevermind the facts though.

[boomerjamhead]

However, one point that does probably need to be made in this argument is this:

712280[/snapback]

 

She's still full of shi+. This changes nothing.

[/dev/null]

She's still full of shi+. 

712951[/snapback]

 

i'd still do her

 

This changes nothing.

712951[/snapback]

 

like i said, i'd still do her

[Kelly the Dog]

She's still full of shi+.  This changes nothing.

712951[/snapback]

It changes a lot for me. It changes me from thinking she's a wacko that I don't care what she thinks or says about AIDS or the war to thinking she's a sometimes very generous and self-aware wacko that I don't care what she thinks or says about AIDS or the war.

 

I don't see how learning someone gives away probably 10 or their 30 mil salary because they realize they make a stupid amount of money for what they do is not rather admirable. She can still be full of sh--. And my original post was only to say why give her a forum? Why care what she says? Allowing actors any kind of stage for this stuff enables them to do and say stupid sh--. It wasnt to say she was right, I didnt even read it. It's only to say so what.

[RuntheDamnBall]

It changes a lot for me. It changes me from thinking she's a wacko that I don't care what she thinks or says about AIDS or the war to thinking she's a sometimes very generous and self-aware wacko that I don't care what she thinks or says about AIDS or the war.

 

I don't see how learning someone gives away probably 10 or their 30 mil salary because they realize they make a stupid amount of money for what they do is not rather admirable. She can still be full of sh--. And my original post was only to say why give her a forum? Why care what she says? Allowing actors any kind of stage for this stuff enables them to do and say stupid sh--. It wasnt to say she was right, I didnt even read it. It's only to say so what.

713025[/snapback]

For that matter, why do we care what Bill Gates says about AIDS, then? He's not a social scientist or health specialist. But he gives a lot of time, money and effort to the issue. I'd say that's the reason to listen to an activist's opinion.

[Kelly the Dog]

For that matter, why do we care what Bill Gates says about AIDS, then?  He's not a social scientist or health specialist.  But he gives a lot of time, money and effort to the issue.  I'd say that's the reason to listen to an activist's opinion.

713050[/snapback]

Because he has earned the respect of our interest over decades for his smarts, vision, for his billion of dollars of philanthropy, and being one of the most powerful people in the world. There is a history of actors/actresses taking short lived stands, jumping on bandwagon causes, spouting off on issues they should not be given the soapbox for except that they have become famous through acting. Over time, Jolie may earn our ear. That doesn't seem to be the case now, IMO. When other respected people start writing about what she has done, the depth of her involvement, and the sincerity/legitimacy of her efforts, then she gains our respect. She shouldn't be telling us that. Not given a full hour of an alleged news show because she's a movie star and just had a baby with Brad Pitt.

[boomerjamhead]

It changes a lot for me. It changes me from thinking she's a wacko that I don't care what she thinks or says about AIDS or the war to thinking she's a sometimes very generous and self-aware wacko that I don't care what she thinks or says about AIDS or the war.

 

I don't see how learning someone gives away probably 10 or their 30 mil salary because they realize they make a stupid amount of money for what they do is not rather admirable. She can still be full of sh--. And my original post was only to say why give her a forum? Why care what she says? Allowing actors any kind of stage for this stuff enables them to do and say stupid sh--. It wasnt to say she was right, I didnt even read it. It's only to say so what.

713025[/snapback]

 

All points well taken KtFaBD. I'm pissed at her mis-representation of the facts given the forum that AC 360 gives her. Whether she should be given that forum or not is not up to me. However, it's one thing to promote your pet issue when given the opportunity, but please don't distort the facts.

 

Why do I care? Because the folks who watch 360 are more inclined to take waht she has to say for gospel rather than research the facts. I take exception to that. That's all I'm getting at.

 

You make a hell of a lot of sense, but I don't think the American Idol crowd would understand.

[boomerjamhead]

i'd still do her

like i said, i'd still do her

713001[/snapback]

 

Would you wear a vial of her blood around your neck?

[IDBillzFan]

Would you wear a vial of her blood around your neck?

713518[/snapback]

Or more to the point, would you climb onto a snatch that was previously mounted by Billy Bob Thornton?

[Kelly the Dog]

Or more to the point, would you climb onto a snatch that was previously mounted by Billy Bob Thornton?

714300[/snapback]

That particular one? Hell, yes.

[GG]

That particular one? Hell, yes.

714311[/snapback]

 

Can I have an amen?

[IDBillzFan]

That particular one? Hell, yes.

714311[/snapback]

It must be me. For some reason I develop something of a distaste for a chick the entire free world wants to !@#$.

[/dev/null]

Or more to the point, would you climb onto a snatch that was previously mounted by Billy Bob Thornton?

714300[/snapback]

 

like i said, i'd still do her