gotsoccer22 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet baboo Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 no amount of prayer is going to save you if you don't study yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCBillsFan Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 I absolutely support a moment of silence for anyone who wishes to pray. I believe very strongly in God and think that our children should be able to pray if they chose to pray in school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 We observe a moment of silence before our noontime meal. Some use it to say a prayer, others to think good thoughts, and a few to bow their heads and consider what on the table they will be gorging themselves upon a few moments later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 This is a loaded question. It's meant to suggest anyone who believes in a constitutional separation of church and state, where all religions are treated equally, is some kind of god-hating devil worshipper. The question should be: "Do you feel government should or should not sanction official religious activity?" because that what prayer in school is. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadCap Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Not sure, but I WOULD definitely vote to say the Pledge everyday like I did when I was young. I may be in the minority, but I think that if you don't pledge, you don't stay in the US. Yes, I know part of what makes America great is the right to do basically what you want, but damn it, I get pissed when I see people disrespect our flag and bad-mouth the US.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotsoccer22 Posted September 28, 2004 Author Share Posted September 28, 2004 47356[/snapback] I think that prayer should be allowed because it expresses a right that was granted to us in the us. constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I may be in the minority, but I think that if you don't pledge, you don't stay in the US. Yes, I know part of what makes America great is the right to do basically what you want, but damn it, I get pissed when I see people disrespect our flag and bad-mouth the US.... 47523[/snapback] The forgotten side of free speech is that along with someone's right not to say the pledge, for example, is your right to think they're an !@#$, and tell them so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I voted YES! Give the kids a minute or two to pray silently. This God-less society will be the death of us all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Anyone who wants to can pray all they want in school right now, and I am happy to see them do so. What I am against is state-sanctioned prayer in schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjeff215 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I voted yes... with one caveat... just no school support. No prayer over the AM announcements. Kid wants to pray with friends in the hallway or a classroom? Sure thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I voted yes, but only for Bills fans in school. The team could really use a little divine intervention right about now. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Do I think prayer should be allowed in school? Yes. When I feel moved to pray, I do it regardless of my surroundings or location, and to attempt to legislate it out of schools is ridiculous. Do I think public shools should have a moment of silence or "prayer time?" No, for a few reasons. Most of the kids won't/don't pray, it's not "cool." It'd be a waste of time. Public Schools are operated by the government, and just as the letter of the law is used for things like the 2nd Ammendment, so should the letter of the law be used in keeping religion (ie, prayer-time) out of schools under the seperation of church and state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 no amount of prayer is going to save you if you don't study yourself 47387[/snapback] Study? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Years ago, some schools used the old "school prayer" that in each class the teacher would lead and students recite, along with the pledge to the flag. That is what the supreme court struck down, though I'm no sure why. It was a very generic prayer, which mentioned God, but no specific religion's terminology. "Jesus Christ " was not mentioned in the prayer, nor of course was "Allah" etc. Therefore the prayer did not in my mind constitute endorsement of a specific religion. A Muslim, or a Jew, or a Christian, or a Hindu could all recite that prayer in good conscience. Ultimately, only athiests were offended by the prayer, though there is nothing in the constitution that suggests the government should be forbidden from encouraging religious belief of the individual's choice. Still, I don't really advocate a return to the good old days of the official school prayer, mainly because I don't think generic, general prayers do anyone much good. A minute of silence is OK if schools want to have that. The thing I think schools ought to allow, though some school systems balk at the idea, is a provision, for students who request it, for a room where students can pray together and read the Bible (or Quran if it's a group of Muslims) at a specific time. In other words, students should have the right to have a religious group in a school with the same status of any other club. No, they wouldn't be able to cut classes to go pray. They would have to meet when and where a room could be made available just like the Future Farmers of America, or the Chess Club. Some schools have denied students that right in the past. I think when they do they missunderstand the constitution. The constitution not only forbids government sponsorship of a specific religion, it forbids the government from preventing the free practice thereof. If students seek to practice their religion in school, in a manner that is consistent with school policy for any student group, then the school, as an agency of government, is explicitly forbidding the free practice of religion. If my kid wanted to have such a club, and the school said he/she couldn't, you can bet I'd be suing the pants off the school board, and I think I would win too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanone Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Prayer belongs at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatonka12 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I dont mind prayer in school or anywhere else just keep religion out of politics ! get my drift GW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 since when do you need permission for a "moment of silence"... just put your head down and keep your mouth shut... if you want to pray, then pray, leave the kids who don't want to pray alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RabidBillsFanVT Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Separation of church and state... this is America. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Prayer belongs at home. 47621[/snapback] I couldn't disagree with you more. Prayer belongs wherever people want to do it. It's not like second hand smoke that's going to hurt someone. No, in school, kids can't and should not be allowed to be disruptive and pray out loud anywhere and anytime they want. But if kids want to get together and do it in school and they are not bothering other people my constitution and yours says they have that right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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