ACor58 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I am sorry but the NFL really needs to look at the Redskins books. I would not be suprised if there is some questionable accouting going on in DC http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/foot...e.ap/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 The cap can be worked many different ways...and there is no cap to hire coaches thus there will almost ALWAYS be separation between the bigger and smaller clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJPearl2 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Good for them. They overpay for every player. Archuletta has never been that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailog80 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 You could put a cardboard cut out of him back there with Sean Taylor and still have the best pair of safties in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 The cap can be worked many different ways...and there is no cap to hire coaches thus there will almost ALWAYS be separation between the bigger and smaller clubs. 626690[/snapback] I agree with you, but the Redskins went from not being able to get under the $96MM cap to having a field day. There are lots of different ways to practice accounting...Worldcom, Enron, Global Crossing, Health South, Adelphia, etc. I am questioning whether the Redskins are on the up and up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 You could put a cardboard cut out of him back there with Sean Taylor and still have the best pair of safties in the NFL. 626693[/snapback] They might need a Sean Taylor cardboard cut out if he ends up in the clink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I agree with you, but the Redskins went from not being able to get under the $96MM cap to having a field day. There are lots of different ways to practice accounting...Worldcom, Enron, Global Crossing, Health South, Adelphia, etc. I am questioning whether the Redskins are on the up and up. 626694[/snapback] Do the Redskins backload and shelve out a lot on their contracts, meaning more $ then other teams do? Im thinking they backload a lot and spread that out over other years...Im not a capologist by any means...but there must be something they are doing (legal or illegial) that is allowing them to sign players EVERY year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Do the Redskins backload and shelve out a lot on their contracts, meaning more $ then other teams do? Im thinking they backload a lot and spread that out over other years...Im not a capologist by any means...but there must be something they are doing (legal or illegial) that is allowing them to sign players EVERY year. 626698[/snapback] they backload, simple as that......big bonuses (to get the player) that are spread out throughout the life of the contract with small salaries the first few years........when it comes time for the big salaries they either restructure or cut the player, taking the dead money hit........ the redskins benefited not just from the CBA extension (and the extra 10 or so millon that came with that) but also from lavar buying his way out of the deal......by giving them back 4M in signing bonus that is 4M that didn't have to hit their cap........that right there will almost pay for the first year cap numbers of archuletta and randal-el....... rag on danny all you want for spending the cash, but he ain't cheating.......he's just working the cap and shelling out big bonuses.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven in MD Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 The accounting is done at the league office. Every contract is approved by the league ensuring that teams do not exceed the cap. The Redskins are just a team that makes big bets that the cap will expand faster than they can spend. A bet they almost lost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Where are the Redskins finding salary cap room? I know you can be creative but please, I thought they were in cap hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Where are the Redskins finding salary cap room? I know you can be creative but please, I thought they were in cap hell. 626753[/snapback] The new CBA (with 10 million extra on the cap this season) bailed them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 1. Lavar gave them about $4 M in cap relief 2. They cut Matt Bowen (freed $2 M), Walt Harris (freed $2 M), Cory Raymer (freed about $950 K), Brandon Noble (freed about $1.5M), and Tom Tupa (freed $600 K). All told, that freed up about $7 M. The above moves, coupled with the expansion of the cap by $7.5 M was enough to get them under the new cap in time. On top of that, they also approached a number of players, inlcuding Jon Jenson and Shawn Springs about restucturing their contracts to free up more cap space. Between those two players alone, they could have freed up several million dollars. So, I have no doubts that what they've done is legit. Of course, you can question the intelligence of giving guys like Randle El and Archuletta so much cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 1. Lavar gave them about $4 M in cap relief 2. They cut Matt Bowen (freed $2 M), Walt Harris (freed $2 M), Cory Raymer (freed about $950 K), Brandon Noble (freed about $1.5M), and Tom Tupa (freed $600 K). All told, that freed up about $7 M. The above moves, coupled with the expansion of the cap by $7.5 M was enough to get them under the new cap in time. On top of that, they also approached a number of players, inlcuding Jon Jenson and Shawn Springs about restucturing their contracts to free up more cap space. Between those two players alone, they could have freed up several million dollars. So, I have no doubts that what they've done is legit. Of course, you can question the intelligence of giving guys like Randle El and Archuletta so much cash. 626765[/snapback] Weren't they like 23 million or so over the cap at the beginning of all of this though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I am sorry but the NFL really needs to look at the Redskins books. I would not be suprised if there is some questionable accouting going on in DC http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/foot...e.ap/index.html 626687[/snapback] Don't forget: they're located in the place where money is printed and probably picked up all the Rigas' people who beat the wrap and are still in the accounting business. The city is awash in money, much of it under the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Forgive me if my player evaluation is off but isn't Brandon Noble one of those "space eater" type DTs? Hmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Weren't they like 23 million or so over the cap at the beginning of all of this though? 626769[/snapback] At one time they were, but that was before all of the moves I mentioned and the expanded cap. I know that they reworked Mark Brunell's contract even prior to the Arrington release that reportedly saved about $2 M. The Arrington pay-back, freed up another $4 M. The released players I mentioned further freed up about $7 M. So, right there, that is: 2+4+7+7.5(cap expansion) = $20.5 M. I haven't heard the particulars on the negotiations with Jensen and Springs (among others), but if both players, say, converted their base pay and roster bonuses in 2006 to a single signing bonus that could be spread out, then the team could have saved as much as $3-4 M per player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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