The Dean Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../17/wfood17.xml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 mmmmm Yummy ! Goat dick ! Where's the barfing icon when you need one? So Dean Your avatar is morfing again ? Is the next morf the gray big black eyed alien with a pipe ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../17/wfood17.xml 623996[/snapback] dick on the brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 wtf is wrong with people man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 wtf is wrong with people man 624385[/snapback] I have a problem with the Chinese culture as a whole, I think. They are just so diametrically opposed to our own way of life, it's really hard for me to prevent myself from feeling disdain - even disgust - toward some of their beliefs. I've known a lot of Chinese-Americans, and the difference between what they believe and what they left behind in China is amazing. I know I"m speaking in generalizations here, but I think the fact that I HAVE known a lot of Chinese-Americans has a lot to do with why articles such as this one catch me off guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 I have a problem with the Chinese culture as a whole, I think. They are just so diametrically opposed to our own way of life, it's really hard for me to prevent myself from feeling disdain - even disgust - toward some of their beliefs. I've known a lot of Chinese-Americans, and the difference between what they believe and what they left behind in China is amazing. I know I"m speaking in generalizations here, but I think the fact that I HAVE known a lot of Chinese-Americans has a lot to do with why articles such as this one catch me off guard. 624415[/snapback] i know a lot of Chinese as my school is full of them. they may eat disgusting meals but you won't see them scarfing down junk food or high sugar foods. the stuff they sell in chinese restaurants is stuff they would never eat. mainly in their diets they eat mostly vegetables, although this dick trio sounds rather odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 i know a lot of Chinese as my school is full of them. they may eat disgusting meals but you won't see them scarfing down junk food or high sugar foods. the stuff they sell in chinese restaurants is stuff they would never eat. mainly in their diets they eat mostly vegetables, although this dick trio sounds rather odd 624419[/snapback] Oh yeah, those I've become friends with in America have a great deal of discipline. But the thing I notice most - and appreciate - is a much greater sense of individualism than what you typically find espoused in China. That's the great thing about America.....we DO embrace the individual, and I feel that is what's right. But at the same time, when the need arises, we also come together and put ourselves in harms way for the greater good. Sure I'm biased....but I don't care, America does it right. We're not perfect by any means. We have all sorts of problems that need to be fixed. But individual liberties, rights, and freedoms are in accordance with Judeo-Christian values, to which I subscribe. To depart from those ideals as severely as the Chinese culture does just really makes it hard for me to respect some of their beliefs. That's why it's so interesting when I get to know Chinese-Americans who have clearly gravitated at least partially in this direction. In fact, they don't just 'fit in' in our society, they typically thrive in it. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../17/wfood17.xml 623996[/snapback] Hey you never know, a little Anchor Bar Wing Sauce and it might be the next winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Hey you never know, a little Anchor Bar Wing Sauce and it might be the next winner 624586[/snapback] ugh, thanks for that.....i was gonna have wings tonight. Think I'll go with something else now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Oh yeah, those I've become friends with in America have a great deal of discipline. But the thing I notice most - and appreciate - is a much greater sense of individualism than what you typically find espoused in China. That's the great thing about America.....we DO embrace the individual, and I feel that is what's right. But at the same time, when the need arises, we also come together and put ourselves in harms way for the greater good. Sure I'm biased....but I don't care, America does it right. We're not perfect by any means. We have all sorts of problems that need to be fixed. But individual liberties, rights, and freedoms are in accordance with Judeo-Christian values, to which I subscribe. To depart from those ideals as severely as the Chinese culture does just really makes it hard for me to respect some of their beliefs. That's why it's so interesting when I get to know Chinese-Americans who have clearly gravitated at least partially in this direction. In fact, they don't just 'fit in' in our society, they typically thrive in it. I 624425[/snapback] Beliefs are exactly what they are.... beliefs. They are neither right or wrong. I think people forget this, whatever you believe in doesnt make opposing beliefs wrong just because you dont think they are right. That's the beauty. They probably are thinking, "what the hell is wrong with Americans? they dont eat animal dick?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Beliefs are exactly what they are.... beliefs. They are neither right or wrong. I think people forget this, whatever you believe in doesnt make opposing beliefs wrong just because you dont think they are right. That's the beauty. They probably are thinking, "what the hell is wrong with Americans? they dont eat animal dick?" 625272[/snapback] Or, how about this one...."What the hell is wrong with Americans that they don't hijack planes, fly them into tall, occupied buildings, and kill thousands of innocents"? I think you can always make the argument about one belief not being any more right, wrong, or valid than another....but I respectfully disagree with that notion. Of course, to defend my point I must say that it's my BELIEF that there are areas where it's black and white in terms of what's right and wrong.....not gray. Actually, what I find interesting is that if you take the three great world religions - Judaism, Christianity, and Islam - and their associated texts, I think there are probably several areas where you could easily discern commonality among them in terms of what is right and wrong. The problem is that all three groups have taken liberties with these ideals over the centuries, thus distorting the grand perception of what each respective religion truly teaches. So I think from an objective standpoint, considering these three religions, which represent the vast majority of the world, there are clearly general statements that could be made about what is right and wrong. I've read the Koran, the majority of the Bible, and am familiar with the beliefs of Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists (though I don't really consider Buddhism a religion as much as a philosophy). In general terms, I think they have much more in common than people give them credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Ajzepp. Ever spent anytime in China? Didn't think so. Xenophobia is big, this month. So is saying we aren't imperialistic, not really. Not us. We would never tell someone else how to live, unless it wasn't eating bacon and eggs. A lot of the world considers bacon and eggs for breakfast something to vomit over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 12, 2006 Author Share Posted March 12, 2006 I must say that it's my BELIEF that there are areas where it's black and white in terms of what's right and wrong.....not gray. 625647[/snapback] So where do you stand on the whole "penis consumption" thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Ajzepp. Ever spent anytime in China? Didn't think so. Xenophobia is big, this month. So is saying we aren't imperialistic, not really. Not us. We would never tell someone else how to live, unless it wasn't eating bacon and eggs. A lot of the world considers bacon and eggs for breakfast something to vomit over. 625667[/snapback] If you go back and read my posts in this thread, I'm not really commenting on what they eat. That was just the topic that resulted in my somewhat-related tangent. I'm less concerned with what they eat than I am the way they treat their people, or the value they place on life in general. I'm not in the business of telling anyone how to live, but I'm also not one to keep opinions to myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 So where do you stand on the whole "penis consumption" thing? 625685[/snapback] I just thought it was funny how in the article, one of the owners of that restaurant made the comment, "you are what you eat"..... How much you want to bet that the French are their biggest importer of penis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 If you go back and read my posts in this thread, I'm not really commenting on what they eat. That was just the topic that resulted in my somewhat-related tangent. I'm less concerned with what they eat than I am the way they treat their people, or the value they place on life in general. I'm not in the business of telling anyone how to live, but I'm also not one to keep opinions to myself. 625690[/snapback] I'm not commenting on what they eat, either. And, I've read your posts. It's also their world. Have you spent any time in China? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 I'm not commenting on what they eat, either. And, I've read your posts. It's also their world. Have you spent any time in China? 625712[/snapback] Not a single second, nope. But I think you're taking what I'm saying to a point that I'm not intending for it to go. I'm not wishing to change their way of life - as long as it has no bearing or impact on the way of life I choose, too.....and that is to live in an imperfect, FREE society such as the United States of America. I simply have an opinion on their way of life - or moreso the views of their government - based on what I've read and come to know from my Asian-American friends. Does it absolutely disgust me that they not only eat dogs, but only half-kill them so that they are more 'tender' when they are ready to be eaten? Yes. I think it's horrid to make ANY living creature suffer such as that. That being said, I'm also a meat eater, and I'm quite certain that many of the processing plants in this country are sticking electric rods up the asses of cows and pulling apart poultry with very little concern for their suffering.....and I still eat the food. So yeah, I recongize that what I have is only an opinion. If I were trying to change their way of life, then I wouldn't be any different than they are, cause I'd be crapping on the very ideals that I personally espouse and love. That being said, I would also bet you that if the PEOPLE of China were allowed greater say into the structure of their country, things would look much different than they do right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Or, how about this one...."What the hell is wrong with Americans that they don't hijack planes, fly them into tall, occupied buildings, and kill thousands of innocents"? I think you can always make the argument about one belief not being any more right, wrong, or valid than another....but I respectfully disagree with that notion. Of course, to defend my point I must say that it's my BELIEF that there are areas where it's black and white in terms of what's right and wrong.....not gray. Actually, what I find interesting is that if you take the three great world religions - Judaism, Christianity, and Islam - and their associated texts, I think there are probably several areas where you could easily discern commonality among them in terms of what is right and wrong. The problem is that all three groups have taken liberties with these ideals over the centuries, thus distorting the grand perception of what each respective religion truly teaches. So I think from an objective standpoint, considering these three religions, which represent the vast majority of the world, there are clearly general statements that could be made about what is right and wrong. I've read the Koran, the majority of the Bible, and am familiar with the beliefs of Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists (though I don't really consider Buddhism a religion as much as a philosophy). In general terms, I think they have much more in common than people give them credit for. 625647[/snapback] Since you have read the Koran, as I have, then you should realize that there are reasons that explain their reasoning, even the crashing planes into buildings. It doesnt mean its right, but it is clear that it was not just an "i hate America" stunt, it was very well planned and they take it seriously. Nothing is above their God, and when someone threatens their beliefs as the United States did with Jerusalem, that was their reasoning. Im suprised that you have this notion of right and wrong when you say you have read and are familiar with these texts, i would think that would make you understand the term "belief" a little better but apparently not. You are right when you say there are things right and wrong, if you look at each religion there is, but if you look at everything as a whole, it is all "gray" because no belief or religion is better than another. I just wanted to add im not coming up for a reason why the attacks on America should have happened, just trying to explain that things seem differently in the eyes of each religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Since you have read the Koran, as I have, then you should realize that there are reasons that explain their reasoning, even the crashing planes into buildings. It doesnt mean its right, but it is clear that it was not just an "i hate America" stunt, it was very well planned and they take it seriously. Nothing is above their God, and when someone threatens their beliefs as the United States did with Jerusalem, that was their reasoning. Im suprised that you have this notion of right and wrong when you say you have read and are familiar with these texts, i would think that would make you understand the term "belief" a little better but apparently not. You are right when you say there are things right and wrong, if you look at each religion there is, but if you look at everything as a whole, it is all "gray" because no belief or religion is better than another. I just wanted to add im not coming up for a reason why the attacks on America should have happened, just trying to explain that things seem differently in the eyes of each religion. 625896[/snapback] You can take passages in the Bible and use them to defend the murdering of innocents, too - in fact it's been done plenty of times throughout history. What I said was that in GENERAL terms, there is a lot of commonality among the three main religions. And yes, I feel you can clearly delineate some sort of right vs wrong in a general sense. That's entirely different than taking part of a belief system and applying it toward a specific example. And again, as I've said several times, this is just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet baboo Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 alot of these "chinese americans" you speak of may not have even come from china but rather taiwan instead...it seems to be easier for people to refer to them as chinese americans instead for some reason hopefully when sh-- goes down between the US and China, the taiwanese americans don't get dragged down as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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