Gavin in Va Beach Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 You're a bright guy, but this post doesn't reflect that. So you're telling me an accurate depiction of Wade Phillips is WITHOUT Doug Flutie? What the heck kind of logic is that? That's like saying an accurate measure of Marv's performance as a coach is without Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas and Bruce Smith. That has to be one of the worst arguments I have seen on this board. His record as a head coach speaks for itself. The only reason he hasn't gotten another head coaching job is because he is not a prototypical young star like Greg Williams and Mularkey. And they have done soo much for us haven't they? 508994[/snapback] Wade didn't want Flutie. He was all about starting the "Phillips-Johnson era to replace the Levy-Kelly era" (I believe those are his exact words, but I could be a little off). If you want a window into Head Coach Wade's World, the team with Johnson is the more accurate. Flutie thrived independent of coaches plans. Busted plays are his bread and butter. You don't think the W-L record of Flutie is a testament to Pendry's coaching as well do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Wade didn't want Flutie. He was all about starting the "Phillips-Johnson era to replace the Levy-Kelly era" (I believe those are his exact words, but I could be a little off). If you want a window into Head Coach Wade's World, the team with Johnson is the more accurate. Flutie thrived independent of coaches plans. Busted plays are his bread and butter. You don't think the W-L record of Flutie is a testament to Pendry's coaching as well do you? 509045[/snapback] The main reason we won most of the games in the Wade era was because of our defense -- not because of either QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbills17 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 good post. flutie was 20-9 as a starter though; it was wade who was 29-19 (although i always say 30-18 because i factor in the just give it 'em game). 508896[/snapback] Flutie was 20-9 and yet all the majority of the jokers on this board were constantly clamoring for Rob Johnson, the same way they all scream for JP to be the starter. I guess this board likes losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 First of all, Wade did want Flutie. He got sick of RJ very early on in his coaching tenure. It was Ralph who forced him to start RJ for the Tennessee playoff game and that was one of the major reasons why he was fired... because Ralph wanted the next coach to play Johnson while he wanted to keep Flutie. Afterall, it was Wade who installed him as the starter the moment the team started to win. The quote you refer to about the Phillips-Johnson era was made on the day we signed RJ to a long-term deal... he quickly changed his mind after watching him play. As for Pendry, he wasn't all that great a coordinator. But I think he managed to do well with what he had. And would I take him over Clements? You bet. Wade didn't want Flutie. He was all about starting the "Phillips-Johnson era to replace the Levy-Kelly era" (I believe those are his exact words, but I could be a little off). If you want a window into Head Coach Wade's World, the team with Johnson is the more accurate. 509045[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Oh goody...just what we need on a day like today...a !@#$ing Flutie thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 The main reason we won most of the games in the Wade era was because of our defense -- not because of either QB. 509052[/snapback] Thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Eric Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Revisionist history at its worst...on a Monday AM that couldnt BE worse. 508813[/snapback] What is worse than revisionist history is 20-20 hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasoninMT Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 When it comes to ranking recent Buffalo GM's, it goes like so: 1. Polian 2. Butler 3. Teflon If you disagree with this ranking, you might be a TD Apologist. 509026[/snapback] I agree with Number 1.... I am probably getting closer to agreeing with #2, and perhaps I'm not being fair to Butler... but I can't forgive what he did to the salary cap... even if it was very much Ralph's team then... I have agreed with most of TD's moves... And the apologist comes in when it comes to having to clean up after Butler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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