Pete Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 We need pitching! We scored 8 runs and got killed again today. You dont even want to look at the pitching line- they all sucked tonight! I want an entire new staff next year. Well El Duque and Lieber can stay but the rest suck ass. Lets go shopping- who do you want? 2005 FA Pitchers: RHSP: Jimmy Haynes Jose Mercedes Garret Stephenson Gene Stechshulte Robert Person Nelson Cruz Jeff D'Amico Joey Hamilton Rick Helling(Retired) Paul Abbott Aaron Sele Andy Ashby Scott Elarton Derek Lowe Pedro Martinez Esteban Loaiza Kevin Appier Brad Radke Orlando Hernandez Tanyon Sturtze Jon Lieber (Team Option) Kevin Jarvis Paul Byrd Pat Hengten(Retired) Elmer Dessens(Team Option) Shane Reynolds Steve Sparks Russ Ortiz Matt Clement Jimmy Haynes Cory Lidle Carl Pavano Roger Clemens Kevin Millwood Kris Benson Jaret Wright Chris Carpenter Jose Lima Matt Morris Woody Williams (Team Option) Ismael Valdez Dustin Hermanson Paul Wilson Brett Tomko (Team Option) Pedro Astacio LHSP: Steve Avery Nick Neugebauer Randy Keisler Omar Daal Shawn Estes Glendon Rusch Ron Villone John Halama Darren Oliver Wilson Alvarez Dennys Reyes Al Leiter (Mutual Option) Eric Milton Sterling Hitchcock(RETIRED) David Wells Odalis Perez LHRP: Grame Lloyd Lance Painter Mark Guthrie Mike Crudale Jesus Sanchez Nick Bierbrodt Buddy Groom Alan Embree (Team Option) Valerio de Los Santos Al Levine Chris Hammond (Team Option) Trever Miller Kent Mercker John Franco Rheal Cormier Steve Kline Jason Christiansen (Team Option) Terry Muholland Vic Darrensbourg Joe Roa Gabe White Mike Myers Mike Matthews Jeff Fassero Scott Schoenweis RHRP: Darren Holmes(Rehab) Mark Wholers Ariel Preito Trey Hodges Matt Bruback Brandon Villafeurte Turk Wendell Willis Roberts Mike Jackson Ben Weber Mike DeJean Rick White David Weathers Ricky Bottalico Rameiro Mendoza Jamey Wright Mike Timlin (Team Option) Scott Williamson Cliff Pollite(Team Option) Bob Wickman Matt Anderson (Team Option) Danny Patterson Esteban Yan Curtis Leskanic (Team Option) Jeff Nelson Jay Powell Terry Adams Antonio Alfonseca Steve Reed Chad Bradford Jim Mecir Chad Fox Dan Miceli Paul Shuey Roberto Hernandez Brian Boehringer (Team Option) Cal Eldred Rod Beck (Team Option) Antonio Osuna Jay Witasick (Team Option) Felix Rodriguez Mike Fetters Todd Jones Todd Van Poppel Dave Burba Josias Manzanillo John Wasdin Rudy Seanez Closer: Mike Williams Troy Percival Billy Koch Ugeuth Urbina(Team Option) Eddie Gurdado (Mutual Option) Jeff Zimmerman John Smoltz (Team Option) Armando Benitez Billy Wagner (Team Option) Trevor Hoffman (Team Option) Matt Mantei Robb Nen Jose Mesa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njsue Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Just to name a few: Josh Beckett Brad Penny Barry Zito Mark Mulder Tim Hudson Bartolo Colon These current pitchers may screw up now, but the post season has a different style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothrop Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Awwww, poor yankee fans! I love this - Seeing the yankees tank the end of their season is the only joy this MEts fan has gotten out of baseball for a while! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 why wondering who might be good?! Just ask the Boss to sign them all! Isn't that the Yankee way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCBillsFan Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Pete, why in the hell would you open us Yankee fans up to this with that kind of post. Last time I checked we were still leading the AL East. Damn dude. Haven't you learned better than that on this board yet? The Yankees are going to be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bone Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Awwww, poor yankee fans! I love this - Seeing the yankees tank the end of their season is the only joy this MEts fan has gotten out of baseball for a while! 30390[/snapback] And we Red Sox fans just are loving it too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bone Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 why wondering who might be good?! Just ask the Boss to sign them all! Isn't that the Yankee way? 30391[/snapback] Well it did not work with Randy Johnson, maybe teams are finally getting wise to the ways of the Evil Empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Well it did not work with Randy Johnson, maybe teams are finally getting wise to the ways of the Evil Empire. 30407[/snapback] It didnt work because the yankee farm syste is depleted, make no mi$take, if the Yankees had a blue chip prospect to give back to Arizona, I bet Randy would be a Yankee now, but Im glad it didnt happen. Yankee pitching right now is a mess to say the least. The Yankees remind me now of the Ottawa Senators for you hockey fans out there, a team witha lot of flash, especially offensively, but Ottawa just dosent seem to have the goaltender to get over the hump, much like the Yankees do not have the pitching now to get over the hump as well. Of the pitchers on that list, the yankees should throw the kitchen sink at Carl Pavano, he young and has great stuff. Bottom line for 2004: As long as the Red Sox DONT win, I can live with whatever happens to the Yankees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bone Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 It didnt work because the yankee farm syste is depleted, make no mi$take, if the Yankees had a blue chip prospect to give back to Arizona, I bet Randy would be a Yankee now, but Im glad it didnt happen. Yankee pitching right now is a mess to say the least. The Yankees remind me now of the Ottawa Senators for you hockey fans out there, a team witha lot of flash, especially offensively, but Ottawa just dosent seem to have the goaltender to get over the hump, much like the Yankees do not have the pitching now to get over the hump as well. Of the pitchers on that list, the yankees should throw the kitchen sink at Carl Pavano, he young and has great stuff. Bottom line for 2004: As long as the Red Sox DONT win, I can live with whatever happens to the Yankees 30594[/snapback] Five years ago Steinbrenner would have conned the Diamondbacks with what he has now in the farm system and gotten Johnson to the future dismay of the Diamondbacks. Not going to work any more. Now as for the Red Sox, 3 game series with TB followed by a 3 game series with the Yankees...definitely gut check time for both teams. After Sunday, we should have a good idea about what is going to happen for the Red Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Five years ago Steinbrenner would have conned the Diamondbacks with what he has now in the farm system and gotten Johnson to the future dismay of the Diamondbacks. Not going to work any more. Now as for the Red Sox, 3 game series with TB followed by a 3 game series with the Yankees...definitely gut check time for both teams. After Sunday, we should have a good idea about what is going to happen for the Red Sox. 30604[/snapback] Why is it "conning" if the Yankee$ do it but its "smart" if the Red $ox would do the same thing? Im lost... Red Sox are gonna make the playoffs and thats the bottom line now, as long as they are in they can win it all, Im not sure if this weekends series means everything like some make it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Red Sox are gonna make the playoffs and thats the bottom line now, as long as they are in they can win it all, Im not sure if this weekends series means everything like some make it out to be. --------------------- Who cares....Braves are gonna win it all anyways. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB2004 Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Pete- Say whatever you want about the poor pitching. The playoffs haven't started yet. If they lose in the playoffs, that's a different story. The Yankees have had a couple of blow-out loses this year but the playoffs are what counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I thought baseball ended with opening kickoff? my bad. :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: baseball. When the athletes have the time and ability stand around and actually chew tobacco at their leisure, I wouldnt consider that an exciting sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 yep, and we'll see the Yanks get smothered when it comes around. They just don't have the staff this year to get it done. In the AL I'm taking the Twins. Underrated staff. In the NL I'm taking (by a very slim margin) the Braves. Twins v. Braves WS. Braves win in 7. Unfortunately, the ratings will be crap b/c no one except fans of the Braves and Twins will watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steinbrenner Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I thought baseball ended with opening kickoff? my bad. :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: baseball. When the athletes have the time and ability stand around and actually chew tobacco at their leisure, I wouldnt consider that an exciting sport. 30704[/snapback] I think my favorite thing about reading baseball posts on TSW is checking out the one or two posts thrown in there about how much baseball sucks, waaaaah...baseball sucks!!! These people are met with a stunning display of silence by the others and the post resumes minutes later, on-topic. LONG LIVE BASEBALL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 14, 2004 Author Share Posted September 14, 2004 Hey by no means am I giving up on the Yanks. I think they will be alright in the playoffs. I am a fan though. Just as I will talk about the football draft in midseason I look ahead to the next season in baseball. Go Yanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Hey look on the bright side, the Cardinals magic number is 4......... HAHAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 yep, and we'll see the Yanks get smothered when it comes around. They just don't have the staff this year to get it done. In the AL I'm taking the Twins. Underrated staff. In the NL I'm taking (by a very slim margin) the Braves. Twins v. Braves WS. Braves win in 7. Unfortunately, the ratings will be crap b/c no one except fans of the Braves and Twins will watch. 30705[/snapback] Last time I checked St. Louis won both series against you this year.........and is 10 games better then you in the standings. So why exactly do you think Atlanta has any chance of beating the Cardainsl??? I just have to know. You don't stack up, simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engineer1 Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Screw the Yanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Last time I checked St. Louis won both series against you this year.........and is 10 games better then you in the standings. So why exactly do you think Atlanta has any chance of beating the Cardainsl??? I just have to know. You don't stack up, simple as that. 31003[/snapback] Because the regular season means nothing once the playoffs start. You ought to know that by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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