The Riddler Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 A friend of mine who is a Pats fan says Law is the better player....I feel Law WAS the better player but now Id rather have milloy without question. Without Milloy we were 1-5 and with him 8-3....that says alot! Law will be hurt by week 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 i remember the last time you and your pats' fan buddy had a discussion...that didn't go over so well on the board. good luck to you this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 That is actually an interesting question. I would have to agree with you. I'd rather have Milloy as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flomoe Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 4 years ago I probably would have said Law but right now, after his injury and him showing his true colors (so to speak) with his contract negotiations a couple years ago, I would take Milloy in a heartbeat. Good corners are very tough to come by in this league but top safeties are even harder to find. The Bills are in a position now that they need that leadership in the defensive backfield and both Vincent and Milloy give them that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I've always liked Law and Milloy with that said, I'd rather have Milloy. Good safeties are hard to come by, and as good as a corner law was/is, a good safety can help out an average corner a lot, also creep up to the los and be an asset to your run defense. I'd take either or, and I'd probably flip flop on my opinion this a lot, but right now I'd rather have Milloy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I would rather have Law, more of a gamebreaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Riddler Posted August 8, 2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2005 Think about this then....Chiefs passed on Milloy as well as the Lions. Did you notice how bad the chiefs pass defense was last year. I think that finishes the debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I'd say Milloy because he is the man, but Ty Law with the three picks against Indy in 2003 was dominant. He owned Manning in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawnboy1977 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 That is actually an interesting question. I would have to agree with you. I'd rather have Milloy as well. 402190[/snapback] If both are 100%, Ty Law, but thats a close call. 3 INTs in the AFC Chamioonship game, one in their first Super Bowl pushes my vote towards Law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 A friend of mine who is a Pats fan says Law is the better player....I feel Law WAS the better player but now Id rather have milloy without question. Without Milloy we were 1-5 and with him 8-3....that says alot! Law will be hurt by week 5. 402182[/snapback] Ty Law hands down. You guys are kidding yourselves with these answers. A healthy Ty Law is a top 3 most dominant shut down corners in the league. You put him up against almost any wr in the game and he is going to shut them down. Anyone remember the AFC championship game two years ago? 3 picks vs Manning speaks for itself. The guy is the best in the business. I'll actually go as far as to say I'd rather have Rodney Harrison in my defensive backfield over Lawyer Milloy. A bigger impact as a hitter and tends to put a lot of fear in to wr's. Don't get me wrong, Milloy is the man and I love him at safety for the Bills. Great leadership and very smart. He's the man for us no question. We are comparing apples to oranges here, but I'd take Law all day. T-R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Ty Law hands down. A healthy Ty Law is a top 3 most dominant shut down corners in the league. 402315[/snapback] I don't think that we're going to see a healthy Ty Law for quite some time, if ever, really. So that swings it back towards a healthy, productive, Milloy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombradyfan Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 once again the clouded judgement of Bills fans is present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Coli Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 once again the clouded judgement of Bills fans is present 406058[/snapback] You popped in again to add that bit of wisdom to a thread that hasn't been posted in for 4 days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 No such thing as a shutdown corner in this league anymore. Nate Clements is better then both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Easily a healthy Law. They're both great players, but playmakers win championships, and Law is one of the best in history. He'll be a 1st-ballot HOF-er, while Milloy won't come close. Don't get me wrong, though, I'm very happy to have Lawyer on our team... especially since he keeps Coy Wire off the field! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 You popped in again to add that bit of wisdom to a thread that hasn't been posted in for 4 days? 406063[/snapback] His info says he's from Cheshire, CT. He must be their cat, fading in and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie_wan Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Ty Law hands down. You guys are kidding yourselves with these answers. A healthy Ty Law is a top 3 most dominant shut down corners in the league. You put him up against almost any wr in the game and he is going to shut them down. Anyone remember the AFC championship game two years ago? 3 picks vs Manning speaks for itself. The guy is the best in the business. I'll actually go as far as to say I'd rather have Rodney Harrison in my defensive backfield over Lawyer Milloy. A bigger impact as a hitter and tends to put a lot of fear in to wr's. Don't get me wrong, Milloy is the man and I love him at safety for the Bills. Great leadership and very smart. He's the man for us no question. We are comparing apples to oranges here, but I'd take Law all day. T-R 402315[/snapback] you are correct- too bad Law is not healthy AND his contract with the Jets supports that concern. When would a healthy player, who demanded $9 mil + from NE, agree to play for as little as $1 mil for 2005 from the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombradyfan Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 you are correct- too bad Law is not healthy AND his contract with the Jets supports that concern. When would a healthy player, who demanded $9 mil + from NE, agree to play for as little as $1 mil for 2005 from the Jets. 406084[/snapback] fyi... Law could earn $18 million over 2 years if he meets incentives BY RICH CIMINI AND GARY MYERS New York Daily News NEW YORK - (KRT) - If Ty Law re-injures his surgically repaired left foot and doesn't play a down in 2005, the Jets are on the hook for only $1 million and can cut him after the season with no salary-cap implications, the New York Daily News has learned. But if the former Patriots star stays healthy and plays well this season, he can earn at least a whopping $18 million in the first two years of his contract. Law's contract, reported Wednesday to the NFL's Management Council, is based almost entirely on incentives and covers the Jets in the event of an injury. According to a league source with knowledge of the contract, the complicated deal includes: No signing bonus and a $2.5 million base salary in 2005. Law will receive a $500,000 salary advance on Monday and another $2 million on Sept. 15. If he's placed on injured reserve on or before Sept. 10 (the eve of the season opener) due to a left-foot injury, he receives only $500,000 of the remaining $2 million. That is unusual because, in a standard contract, a player on IR usually receives his entire base salary. A $62,500 roster bonus for each game that he's active in 2005. That means an additional $1 million if he's active for all 16 games. He also can earn a $500,000 bonus if he participates in at least 85 percent of the defensive plays. That would bring his 2005 compensation to $4 million. There's also a sliding scale of playing-time incentives that could guarantee up to $3 million in 2006. A team option for $11 million, payable next March, that would extend the contract through 2011. In other words, the Jets can get out of the contract by cutting Law before March, 2006. A $4 million bonus if the Jets win the Super Bowl this season and Law participates in at least 95 percent of the plays, one of many individual and team-related incentives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 No such thing as a shutdown corner in this league anymore. Nate Clements is better then both. 406065[/snapback] Nate better then Law??? Not a chance....I like NC (obviously) but he's no Ty Law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Law could earn $18 million over 2 years if he meets incentivesA team option for $11 million, payable next March, that would extend the contract through 2011. In other words, the Jets can get out of the contract by cutting Law before March, 2006. Sounds like he'll be a jest for only one season............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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