Buffalo is the 2nd best team in the AFC

[Instincts]

Despite the record that Denver has.. as a Pats fan I feel like Buffalo is better.  I got 1. Patriots, 2. Buffalo, 3. Broncos, and then not sure where everyone else falls.. maybe Texans? 

[Doc Brown]

It's really close at the top but even if we lose next week I'd still put the Bills over the Pats come playoff time.  That's only if we get Bosa, Oliver, Palmer, and Kincaid all back at full health for that game.  That may be a big ask.  Palmer would also help.  That Pats game took 3 turnovers (two inside our own 30) and one nearing the red zone and they still won by only three in the first matchup.  The AFC is the most wide open it's been in a long time. 

 

I'd pry rank them right now in who I think will make the playoffs as Bills, Texans, Patriots, Broncos, Jaguars, Chargers, and Steelers.  The first six being really close. 

[BillytheKid]

If you had those 4 teams in the playoffs right now and each team needs to win a game against one of the other teams, the Patriots would be the least likely to win out of the 4 in my opinion. 
 

Guess we will see. Doesn’t matter what any of us think though as they will play the games and it will show. 

[Ray Stonada]

21 minutes ago, Instincts said:

Despite the record that Denver has.. as a Pats fan I feel like Buffalo is better.  I got 1. Patriots, 2. Buffalo, 3. Broncos, and then not sure where everyone else falls.. maybe Texans? 

 

Oh, you got the Patriots as number one? As a Pats fan?

 

Really nice contribution.

 

 

[Instincts]

14 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

It's really close at the top but even if we lose next week I'd still put the Bills over the Pats come playoff time.  That's only if we get Bosa, Oliver, Palmer, and Kincaid all back at full health for that game.  That may be a big ask.  Palmer would also help.  That Pats game took 3 turnovers (two inside our own 30) and one nearing the red zone and they still won by only three in the first matchup.  The AFC is the most wide open it's been in a long time. 

 

I'd pry rank them right now in who I think will make the playoffs as Bills, Texans, Patriots, Broncos, Jaguars, Chargers, and Steelers.  The first six being really close. 

You cannot do that. Lets be adults about this, the Patriots would have beaten you twice, won the division and progressed to 12-2.  It doesn't matter how the Patriots beat you, 3 turnovers, 1 turnover, whatever thats one of the ways teams beat other teams.  At that point you are just being extreme biased and not realistic. 

8 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

 

Oh, you got the Patriots as number one? As a Pats fan?

 

Really nice contribution.

 

 

Whats their record?  What is the Bills record?  And even with that I'm being nice despite the records and yall STILL cannot appreciate that lol football fans are loyal to a fault almost lol we all are as fans.

[Ray Stonada]

10 minutes ago, Instincts said:

You cannot do that. Lets be adults about this, the Patriots would have beaten you twice, won the division and progressed to 12-2.  It doesn't matter how the Patriots beat you, 3 turnovers, 1 turnover, whatever thats one of the ways teams beat other teams.  At that point you are just being extreme biased and not realistic. 

Whats their record?  What is the Bills record?  And even with that I'm being nice despite the records and yall STILL cannot appreciate that lol football fans are loyal to a fault almost lol we all are as fans.

Thank you, tiddlywinks. 

[GunnerBill]

If none of Cincy, Baltimore or KC make it the ONLY and I mean ONLY team in the playoffs with a chance to beat the Bills best punch is the Texans and that is because those two pass rushers are an elite level strength and two years in a row we have had no answers for them. 

 

The problem for the Bills this year is their own inconsistency - which is partly the injuries... as Sean said last week they have barely been able to get the same starting defense on the field for two consecutive games all season but is also partly they have looked slightly like the Brady Patriots occasionally looked in the mid-Belichick / Brady era to me - a team bored of the regular season and knowing in week 1 that it is all about the playoffs. And the Bills are not talented enough to just roll regardless in some key spots. 

 

If the Bills are at 80% of their best then I think New England can beat them. Denver can beat them. Jacksonville (our bogey team anyway) can beat them. 

 

The question is just how close to the best version of themselves can Buffalo be come the post-season? 

[Doc Brown]

Just now, Instincts said:

You cannot do that. Lets be adults about this, the Patriots would have beaten you twice, won the division and progressed to 12-2.  It doesn't matter how the Patriots beat you, 3 turnovers, 1 turnover, whatever thats one of the ways teams beat other teams.  At that point you are just being extreme biased and not realistic. 

Well, all of Vegas must be biased then as they have Buffalo as 1.5 point favorites next week in New England who's coming off a bye so I'm not the only one.  I still think you guy's are a year away and benefited from a ridiculously easy schedule.  I don't know how Maye will perform when the pressure is on in the playoffs.  I don't trust Vrabel in the playoffs given his track record.

[Instincts]

8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

If none of Cincy, Baltimore or KC make it the ONLY and I mean ONLY team in the playoffs with a chance to beat the Bills best punch is the Texans and that is because those two pass rushers are an elite level strength and two years in a row we have had no answers for them. 

 

The problem for the Bills this year is their own inconsistency - which is partly the injuries... as Sean said last week they have barely been able to get the same starting defense on the field for two consecutive games all season but is also partly they have looked slightly like the Brady Patriots occasionally looked in the mid-Belichick / Brady era to me - a team bored of the regular season and knowing in week 1 that it is all about the playoffs. And the Bills are not talented enough to just roll regardless in some key spots. 

 

If the Bills are at 80% of their best then I think New England can beat them. Denver can beat them. Jacksonville (our bogey team anyway) can beat them. 

 

The question is just how close to the best version of themselves can Buffalo be come the post-season? 

You cannot say this when the Patriots have already beaten yall in yall house.  Thats contradictory... to say Baltimore, Cincy or KC would be the only teams to beat Buffalo when New England has already beaten Buffalo and all of those other teams are either eliminated or close to and they weren't even good enough to beat non playoff teams to even make it to the post season to begin with.  This is too easy. 

Edited 8 minutes ago by Instincts

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Instincts said:

You cannot say this when the Patriots have already beaten yall in yall house.  Thats contradictory... to say Baltimore, Cincy or KC would be the only teams to beat Buffalo when New England has already beaten Buffalo and all of those other teams are either eliminated or close to and they weren't even good enough to beat non playoff teams to even make it to the post season to begin with.  This is too easy. 

 

That is absolutely not what I said though. 

[Instincts]

5 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Well, all of Vegas must be biased then as they have Buffalo as 1.5 point favorites next week in New England who's coming off a bye so I'm not the only one.  I still think you guy's are a year away and benefited from a ridiculously easy schedule.  I don't know how Maye will perform when the pressure is on in the playoffs.  I don't trust Vrabel in the playoffs given his track record.

A year away? So were they supposed to even be competitive this season?  Were they supposed to even win 12 or more games like they are about to this season? 

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

That is absolutely not what I said though. 

but it absolutely is.... the only difference is I didn't add the Texans in my rebuttal because I didn't need to, to make my point. 

[Matt_In_NH]

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