Kurt Warner on Josh's recent INTs

[HoofHearted]

16 hours ago, Tulsabillsfanz said:

That’s exactly what I saw. Josh is throwing as Shakir is blocking his view of the DB.  Warner stopped the tape 3 times when this happened and he kept saying he wasn’t sure what Josh saw. I think it was what Josh didn’t see, the guy behind Shakir. 

No chance. Josh knew it was Cover 3. Once he sees the roll in coverage and the corner sink it's the automatic tell. Josh was trying to force a throw for a first. If he throws the slant off the hitch it's a completion for 5-7 yards and we get a 4th and manageable. He just waits on it.

[The Firebaugh Kid]

22 hours ago, PoundingDog said:

The last throw in the Texans' game brought new light on why running your route precisely is what separates great ones (Jerry Rice is famous for) from a JAG receiver. And Yes Diggs is someone Josh can trust and Palmer is someone Josh can't in stress scenarios.

 

I'm not saying Josh is perfect. Just like Warner pointed out, as well as many others (cover 1, Marino etc.), the Steelers game INT is all Josh.

 

 

 

12:20 the reason Palmer does that is to distract the safety and attempt to draw him away from Knox, who he can see as he's heading right to left....is wide open. 

Allen should've thrown it to Knox, either way. Bad read. 

Edited 4 hours ago by The Firebaugh Kid

[BADOLBILZ]

19 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

Great breakdown. I know folks like @HappyDays and @BADOLBILZ are quick to blame Gabe Davis, but man, on that INT vs Pitt, it was just a terrible read by Allen. Davis did nothing wrong. And I think it’s a bit rich to blame Davis for “dropping” a 70 mph bullet pass that probably traveled 7 yards in a fog-of-war scrum vs Tampa. Not one NFL receiver is catching that, and the blame for him not keeping his feet in bounds vs an elite boundary corner in Stingley, who had established sideline control on that play, seems way off too. That struck me as a no-chance play regardless of the receiver given how good the coverage was. And trust me, I am not a big defender of Davis.

 

 

I think I know WHY you think I blamed Gabe.......but I didn't.   Allen even admitted post game that the look dictated that he should start his progression from the left.   It was a pretty egregious mental error by Allen.

 

And I heard Chris Simms say that Gabe Davis should have finished his route and assured it was incomplete........but my question is why are they throwing Gabe a slant?

 

They never used to throw slants to Gabe.  

 

Because he has those two very bad hands......the turnover potential is too high.  

 

3 seasons ago I literally watched them try to make him big-slot-versatile in camp......something they had tried before and abandoned.......and then watched him be thrown a quick slant from Allen for his first chance in preseason and the perfectly thrown ball bounced off his hands for an interception.   That was the end of that.

 

He's NOT a possession receiver.  Deep balls and comeback routes.   That's all he has ever been useful for in the NFL and even that combination turned sour when defense's started putting CB1 on him and doubling Diggs.    

 

But this room is so bad that they've brought him back and are using him like he is this long-lost reliable possession receiver that he'd never been.