Can the Bills win out?

[transplantbillsfan]

Yes. Of course they can. With Josh Allen anything is possible.

 

And I would argue our remaining schedule is pretty easy, all things considered.

[Kelly to Allen]

10 minutes ago, steven50 said:

ya that is the point, because if you say "the bills are not a championship team " then it should be easy to point to what you consider a championship team, otherwise your just throwing out sound bites. If you don't no what is a "championship team" this year then your comment is pointless.

 

 

I think he's saying in the present they aren't which is probably fair. His reasons it could change are not wild takes tho. Those few things could very well happen. 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Kelly to Allen

[BillsFanForever19]

29 minutes ago, steven50 said:

ya that is the point, because if you say "the bills are not a championship team " then it should be easy to point to what you consider a championship team, otherwise your just throwing out sound bites. If you don't no what is a "championship team" this year then your comment is pointless.

 

I can tell you, as I did in the post you obviously just skimmed through - teams like the Patriots and Broncos are much better built teams and much closer to a Championship team than us. Same can be said of the Chargers. These are not one dimensional teams like we are.

 

We just beat a now .500 Steelers and lost to a Backup QB led Texans the week before. We're 4-4 in our last 8 games. And we continue to rely completely on the run game. It's not sustainable and the last 8 weeks have proven that.

 

Fun win. But the reality remains the same.

Edited 56 minutes ago by BillsFanForever19

[steven50]

Ok so a team like the patriots:

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The Patriots’ strength of schedule, indicated by opponent win percentage, is 0.356, by far the easiest schedule in the league.

30. New England Patriots, .429

▪︎ Opponents' combined 2024 record: 124-165   https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45916116/what-nfl-strength-schedule-2025-team-rankings

 

 

 

 

is what you consider a championship team.  

 

Got it.

 

We are done.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

28 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

I think the AFC looks worse for us this year than before. The teams may look mediocre but really it’s just more teams in the mix on our level. Just my 2 cents. 

Im a little puzzled by this take personally but respect it  haha I was pickin up what you were putting down on the rest of the posts though 😂

 

If this team cuts out some straight up boneheaded turnovers I think they’ve got a chance to be better than last years team…safeties and corners were horrible last year, receivers were just as bad considering cooper didn’t really play that much in the playoffs anyway, honestly think the LBs are better with Shaq Thompson in there, bosa has some juice out of the other DE spot, Hawes definitely gives you some options to pound the run,etc.

 

and even if the team is a little worse, avoiding one of a 2024 kc and 2024 Baltimore level team would easily offset that in my opinion 

 

I hate that I’m gonna upset the pats fan here again who seems like a good dude haha but as solid as I think that team is I think their ceiling is pretty low this year and they are far below the standard home team in divisional round quality.  Doesn’t mean they can’t win by any means but just pure talent wise that’s about the best it’s gonna get for an opponent in round 2.  Same goes for pretty much everyone else in the mix too 

[steven50]

Saying the team that plays the 4th place teams teams last year is equal to the schedule of the  team that is playing all the first place teams seems a little disingenuous to me.

Edited 46 minutes ago by steven50

[JP51]

16 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I can tell you, as I did in the post you obviously just skimmed through - teams like the Patriots and Broncos are much better built teams and much closer to a Championship team than us. Same can be said of the Chargers. These are not one dimensional teams like we are.

 

We just beat a now .500 Steelers and lost to a Backup QB led Texans the week before. We're 4-4 in our last 8 games. And we continue to rely completely on the run game. It's not sustainable and the last 8 weeks have proven that.

 

Fun win. But the reality remains the same.

Agree and as you mentioned Denver and NE.... here come the Texans who look really tough 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

24 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I can tell you, as I did in the post you obviously just skimmed through - teams like the Patriots and Broncos are much better built teams and much closer to a Championship team than us. Same can be said of the Chargers. These are not one dimensional teams like we are.

 

We just beat a now .500 Steelers and lost to a Backup QB led Texans the week before. We're 4-4 in our last 8 games. And we continue to rely completely on the run game. It's not sustainable and the last 8 weeks have proven that.

 

Fun win. But the reality remains the same.

Broncos offense has looked pretty awful to me every time I’ve seen them tbh…I really think they’re dumbing things down for nix.  They hardly ever use presnap motion it is straight up bizarre 

 

6 minutes ago, JP51 said:

Agree and as you mentioned Denver and NE.... here come the Texans who look really tough 

I was just gonna say that’s the only team that really worries me…people get wayyyy too hung up on overall records at arbitrary points in the season when deciding what teams are good.  Texans have played the anti-pats/bears schedule where they pretty much only play good teams lol. 9 teams over .500 right now, the ravens, and the titans twice was their schedule 

 

 I know this board loves them (well not loves haha thinks they’re great) but I’m really not sold on Denver or NE yet personally 

Edited 37 minutes ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Buffalo Ballin]

If Psycho Mode Josh Allen is here to stay,

James Cook stays healthy,

Kincaid returns, 

Brandin Cooks shows a pulse,

our defense magically locks in out of nowhere, then yeah we have a puncher's chance.

[BillsFanForever19]

35 minutes ago, steven50 said:

Ok so a team like the patriots:

 

 

is what you consider a championship team.  

 

Got it.

 

We are done.

 

My man - we're not that much better at #23 on that list. You're acting as though us being at a .467 at 8-4 and them being at .429 at 10-2 means we're legit and they're complete frauds. They're taking care of the teams put in front of them. Like the Falcons and the Dolphins who we lost to. And more importantly than that, humiliated us.

 

But beyond that, I'm talking about the makeup of the team. They have a good running game with Treveyon Henderson who has come on HUGE the past couple weeks. A WR core that has Stefon Diggs looking like he's in his prime. A QB who is playing at an MVP level. And an All Pro on Defense. 

 

You want to live in fantasy land where us going 4-4 over the past 8 weeks with a one dimensional attack means we're a Championship team? Be my guest. It's just going to make the kind of losses like we had last week that much more painful and confusing - when the answer is obvious. The roster is not built to compete against the league's best at their best.

Edited 21 minutes ago by BillsFanForever19

[Chautauqua Mafia]

No. They'll absolutely lose in New England and likely to Philadelphia 

[steven50]

14 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

They have a good running game with Treveyon Henderson who has come on HUGE the past couple weeks. A WR core that has Stefon Diggs looking like he's in his prime. A QB who is playing at an MVP level. And an All Pro on Defense. 

 

You want to live in fantasy land where us going 4-4 over the past 8 weeks with a one dimensional attack means we're a Championship team? Be my guest. It's just going to make the kind of losses like we had last week that much more painful and confusing - when the answer is obvious. The roster is not built to compete.

 

I would rather have cook then Henderson and I would rather have Josh Allen then Drake Maye, but you do you.  

 

Again, if your going to talk about "championship team" and your going to say the patriots are that "championship team" with the schedule they have played then we will agree to disagree

 

But the good thing about competition is we get to see who is right, so really there is no ambiguity. I will book mark this thread and we will see if cook and Allen are better then your boys in NE.

 

See you in January

Edited 6 minutes ago by steven50

[BillsFanForever19]

5 minutes ago, steven50 said:

 

I would rather have cook then Henderson and I would rather have Josh Allen then Drake Maye, but you do you.  

 

Again, if your going to talk about "championship team" and your going to say the patriots are that "championship tea"m with the schedule they have played then we will agree to disagree

 

But the good thing about competition is we get to see who is right so really there is no ambiguity. I will book mark mark this thread and we will see if cook and allen are better then your boys in NE.

 

See you in January

 

That's great. I'd agree with you that I'd rather have Josh and Cook over Maye and Henderson. And if a QB and a RB was all you needed, we'd have the Pats in spades. 

 

The difference is, they have a passing game. They have weapons beyond their QB and RB. We simply do not. 

 

They aren't "my boys". I hate the Patriots like any Bills fan. But that's not going to change the fact that they (and other teams in the AFC) can take care of business through the air. Until we can develop a passing game, we cannot compete when it matters.

 

If you're "seeing me in January" - that means things have changed. That means against the odds, we were able to make it work through the air with, quite possibly, the worst group of WR's at getting open I've ever seen. But after 13 weeks, I don't see that changing. 

 

But all means, bookmark away. I'd be thrilled to be wrong about this offense and the fact that I don't see a Championship roster.

Edited 5 minutes ago by BillsFanForever19