Bills workout DE's Jonathan and Toohill - cut Ciarlo and Wilkerson from PS

[Solomon Grundy]

3 hours ago, buffblue said:

Was Trent Murphy not available?

Don't worry...Von Miller will get his release from Washington and he'll return to Buffalo. Book it!!

[BillsFanForever19]

35 minutes ago, LEBills said:

The Bills actually have one of the highest amount of players under contract for 2026 at 40. 9 of them are on IR currently so it is easy to forget them. 
 

Knox, Samuel, Rapp, and Ty Johnson are almost certainly not returning on their current contract. Maybe Bass as well. 
 

Starters that will need to be resigned or replaced are LG, C, DE, LB and Safety. DT and CB we already drafted replacements this year. I think you may be counting K and P as starters that need replacement - those positions don’t require a large investment. In any case, the roster status is not that dire that we couldn’t afford to make a trade without crippling ourselves.

 

We will never know what conversations were had. If I was Beane I probably would have tried really hard to land someone to try and improve the roster, even marginally, this year when the path to a Super Bowl seems less daunting than any year I can remember during the Allen era.

 

The IR point was a fair and good one. But even with the IR guys figured in, the number will probably still be around or close to 20 bodies needing to be re-signed or replaced. We're looking at:

 

QB:

Josh Allen

 

RB:

James Cook

Ty Johnson

Ray Davis

 

WR:

Khalil Shakir

Joshua Palmer

Keon Coleman

Curtis Samuel

Tyrell Shavers

 

TE:

Dalton Kincaid

Dawson Knox

Jackson Hawes

 

OL:

Dion Dawkins

O'Cyrus Torrence

Spencer Brown

Sedrick Van Pran-Granger

Chase Lundt

Tylan Grable

 

DE:

Greg Rousseau

Michael Hoecht

Landon Jackson

Javon Solomon

 

DT:

Ed Oliver

Deone Walker

T.J. Sanders

Dewayne Carter

 

LB:

Terrel Bernard

Dorian Williams

Joe Andreessen

 

CB:

Christian Benford

Maxwell Hairston

Taron Johnson

Dorian Strong

Brandon Codrington

 

S:

Cole Bishop

Taylor Rapp

Jordan Hancock

Wande Owens

 

ST:

Tyler Bass

Reid Ferguson

 

But as you said, that number includes guys like Ty Johnson, Curtis Samuel, Dawson Knox, Taylor Rapp, and Tyler Bass of which a number of them will be released to create cap space. Also Brandon Codrington (who could be cut at any point but definitely by next season), Dorian Strong (who is likely to not be on the roster bc of long term IR or outright Retirement), and Wande Owens (an UDFA who is only on the IR roster bc he was waived while injured and went unclaimed and is unlikely to be in their long term plans).   

 

I still think it's not going to be a small task to not only replace all of these players, re-sign important pieces, and/or upgrade positions with the amount of Draft Picks we have and the amount of space we have (even with the money we'll come up with from releases and restructures). As while we be in decent shape as far as people under contract - we aren't in great shape in both cap and amount of Draft Picks.

 

It really comes down to what we wanted to do. For example - the one player that made the most sense that we were linked to that was traded was WR Rashid Shaheed. The cost for Seattle was a 2026 4th & a 2026 5th. Many have said "why couldn't you pay that?". The issue there is that even though Seattle has the same record as us, New Orleans would view our pick as more likely than not coming in below Seattle's pick (given our history and, well, Josh Allen). So we'd have to beat it. Which since we don't have more than one 4th - would require a 3rd and a 5th. So now we'd be costing ourselves 2 replacement bodies in the first 5 Rounds, as well as cap space if we wanted to have him beyond this year. A steep price to pay in the grand scheme of things.

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, BillytheKid said:

Knox is Allen’s best friend on the team and they like having the 3 TE’s. I agree business is business but if Allen says to keep him then they will keep him. 
 

It would be one thing if he sucked but he doesn’t so….
 

They aren’t going to piss off the most valuable player on the team. 

 

He doesn't suck. But he also doesn't perform at a level where we should be keeping him instead of saving 10 million in Cap Space. Like I said, on the open market at 29 years old with the kind of production he gives us - he'd be lucky to make much more than a 3rd of that. 

 

If we were in better shape cap wise or Draft Pick wise and didn't have the kind of Free Agents we have - I could understand a pay cut that would have us paying a little more than he's worth and saving a little less than what we'd get cutting him. But we're not in that shape and 10 mil is just too much to pass up. 

 

People said the same thing about Tre. He's too loved by everyone in the locker room. That only goes so far in business. 

[ProcessTruster]

9 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

And have spent time in the Defense (especially Kingsley) - so there shouldn't be too much transition in learning what McDermott expects of them and getting the Defense down. Which is why they probably brought them in. It's getting late into the season for bringing guys in cold on that side of the ball.

Exactly.   This is not high school football.