stevestojan Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 7 hours ago, waterglass said: WGR550 Staffer. How about you write about the Cook arguement on the sideline with McDermott. I hear a potential mutiny is in the offing. So when your in the kitchen preparing Terrys meal on his $100 million boat think about whose money you sucked from New York State and Erie county. Your concern with what I wrote is telling as to why are you here? You offer nothing, say nothing except to mock others? Right Are you…. Are you OK, bud? Quote
Niagara Dude Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 11 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Yes Beane needs to take the Lion's share of the blame, his last couple of drafts in particular look really bad. McDermott can right the ship by demanding/doing a couple things. 1. Demand that we get a playmaker on the outside(Jeudy?) and better yet 2 of them. This defense has no chance if our offense isn't percolating and right now we DO NOT have the personnel. 2. Fire Babich and promote one of his D position coaches (Holcomb or Nielsen). We need a fresh approach on that side of the ball. He is overmatched and our guys still can't get lined up. Other than that, we have to hope for improved health, getting guys back from suspensions and improvement from young guys. Never like the Babich promotion, i thought McDermott should have been told to look outside of the organization and we towards a fresh look and scheme. McDermott wanted a yes guy and nothing has changed on that side of the ball 1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 12 hours ago, waterglass said: Other than Josh Allen, Beanes drafts have been historically poor since his arrival here. So have many free agent signings. Most always seem to be injured. So is the word out on Beane that Buffalo is a lazy boy rocking chair, grab some easy money and cash in and out location? Can you name other superstar as most other teams have several on each . Remember 37th draft overall receiver Zay Jones anyone? How about hands of clay Charles Clay who dropped a sure touchdown. No, we didnt draft him but Beane signed him so his miscues also go beyond the draft. The constant and ongoing drafts of undersized defensive lineman may be on coach McDermott. That would include numbers 50, 57 and 91. Good, but NOT championshipSec caliber. First, we're 4 - 2. Not that bad. Yes we looked pretty poor in this game. But there's every reason to think we can get much better. Second, the idea that the (quite good) situation is all because of Beane is just stupid. It comes down to Beane, to McDermott, to the coaches and staff and players. Same as all the other teams. I do remember Zay Jones. Beane was in Carolina when he was drafted. I do remember Charles Clay. Beane still had three more years to go in Carolina when we signed him. The first paragraph was so poor, I didn't read the rest, figured it was most likely just trolling. Which is sad. But yeah, if not, quite a lot sadder. The Bills do have a lot of work to do right now. But reading this entire post would stil have wasted my time. Edited 2 hours ago by Thurman#1 Quote
KentuckyBillsFan Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Beane's crashout on WGR was stupid at the time and looks even more stupid today. I do also wonder how much control McDermott has over the draft. I think it's more than most coaches. 1 Quote
Allen2Moulds Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 37 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: First, we're 4 - 2. Not that bad. Yes we looked pretty poor in this game. But there's every reason to think we can get much better. Second, the idea that the (quite good) situation is all because of Beane is just stupid. It comes down to Beane, to McDermott, to the coaches and staff and players. Same as all the other teams. I do remember Zay Jones. Beane was in Carolina when he was drafted. I do remember Charles Clay. Beane still had three more years to go in Carolina when we signed him. The first paragraph was so poor, I didn't read the rest, figured it was most likely just trolling. Which is sad. But yeah, if not, quite a lot sadder. The Bills do have a lot of work to do right now. But reading this entire post would stil have wasted my time. The poster did miss a few things, but the fact remains that we have some very poor units, because of failed draft picks. No one is saying you have to hit every pick, but his day 1 and day 2 picks have been horrendous. There's been so many good young WRs come into the league the last few years, and finally when the move is overdue, we end up with the guy that every scouting report said that he fails to separate. That's like drafting a QB that can't throw, or a running back that can't run. Oh wait...we did that already, and previously drafted Singletary. It took 3 day 2 picks to get the RB right. We drafted a corner in the 1st round again, but who knows if this kid is any good. For the record, I wanted Hairston, because I was sick of our DBs, looking like they're running with cement boots. Quote
Thurman#1 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 10 hours ago, Norcalbillsfan said: Absolutely, but its still on the gm to hire people to evaluate talent and make the ultimate decision on draft picks and signings. Watching hard knocks over the years you can tell the coaches have say, but at the end it 100% on the gm to make the pick or signing, they are putting thier name on that decision. Beane cant make a bad pick like elam and say "well mcD liked him so i picked him" its still on beane. With some FA signings im sure the coaches have alot more say especially if they coached that player (Thompson), but the buck always stops at the gm. Fair that responsibility for talent acquisition goes to the GM. He indeed can't be held unresponsible for bad picks like Elam. He also can't make great picks like Benford and Deone Walker and many others without receiving credit. All on Beane. Beane's draft record is consistently ranked very high almost without exception. For good reason. Yup, the buck stops there on the draft. Doesn't mean he doesn't factor in McDermott's input a great deal. He absolutely does, particularly in terms of what kinds of players are wanted. But yeah, it stops on Beane. But again, his drafts have been quite good. Amazing since they consistently pick so late. Here's what you get when you google "best drafting GMs rankings NFL": #8 https://www.nbcsports.com/fantasy/football/news/rotopats-2025-nfl-gm-rankings-analysis-for-all-32-teams #5 https://nflspinzone.com/nfl-power-rankings-ranking-the-best-gms-in-the-league-for-the-2025-season-01jyd16br9kj/2 #9 https://nfltraderumors.co/2024-nfl-gm-power-rankings/ #5 https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1157-nfl-daily-with-gregg-rose-29915968/episode/ranking-almost-every-nfl-general-manager-277425860/ #9 https://gameday-analysis.com/2025/07/11/every-nfl-gm-in-2025-ranked-from-worst-to-first/ #4 https://www.vikefans.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=13121 #8 https://youtu.be/X9ouCU9Fr6U #6 https://nfltraderumors.co/2025-nfl-general-manager-power-rankings/ #4 https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6655181/2025/09/24/nfl-front-office-rankings-vote/ #7 https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-gm-rankings-2024-howie-roseman-brett-veach-eric-decosta-at-the-top/ And it goes on and on and on and on ... just like that. Edited 1 hour ago by Thurman#1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted 51 minutes ago Posted 51 minutes ago 30 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said: The poster did miss a few things, but the fact remains that we have some very poor units, because of failed draft picks. No one is saying you have to hit every pick, but his day 1 and day 2 picks have been horrendous. There's been so many good young WRs come into the league the last few years, and finally when the move is overdue, we end up with the guy that every scouting report said that he fails to separate. That's like drafting a QB that can't throw, or a running back that can't run. Oh wait...we did that already, and previously drafted Singletary. It took 3 day 2 picks to get the RB right. We drafted a corner in the 1st round again, but who knows if this kid is any good. For the record, I wanted Hairston, because I was sick of our DBs, looking like they're running with cement boots. That's not a fact, friend. It's an opinion. Also that it's all about failed draft picks isn't just an opinion, it's a very questionable opinion. As I pointed out above, he's considered a top ten drafter and GM pretty much without exception. Shouldn't say without exception, I guess, but the exceptions are pretty much all Bills fans after losses. And judging draft picks as early as you're doing in several cases here just isn't good practice. Quote
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