Another Fan Posted June 11 Posted June 11 Perhaps it was posted in threads in the past but what is the consensus on it? Ive known some lower income people that say they were able to get more accessible insurance access due to it. And supposedly nobody with preexisting cases gets denied. But I see it largely as a disaster imo. Biggest negative I see from it is it influenced these Managed Care models or HMOs with private Medicaid companies. Managed Care soon followed and might replace Medicare soon. Most managed care companies are largely a disaster from the provider and customer side. As Biden said We Killed Medicare.
Pokebball Posted June 11 Posted June 11 Obamacare subsidized insurance companies more than it benefited anyone 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted June 11 Posted June 11 3 minutes ago, Another Fan said: Perhaps it was posted in threads in the past but what is the consensus on it? Ive known some lower income people that say they were able to get more accessible insurance access due to it. And supposedly nobody with preexisting cases gets denied. But I see it largely as a disaster imo. Biggest negative I see from it is it influenced these Managed Care models or HMOs with private Medicaid companies. Managed Care soon followed and might replace Medicare soon. Most managed care companies are largely a disaster from the provider and customer side. As Biden said We Killed Medicare. First, medicare already has managed care. When you sign up, you can choose traditional medicare and buy separate supplemental insurance or buy a managed care product (Medicare advantage) which is cheaper but much more limited. I agree with your assessment of current managed care programs They make a substantial profit on the patients and providers for doing nothing to improve (and usually worsen) care. Pre existing conditions are specifically protected by Obamacare. It's part of the foundation of the program.
Homelander Posted July 7 Posted July 7 15 minutes ago, B-Man said: Made things worse. What a big deal, right Joe ? Oh, you mean the Affordable Care Act—the one that slashed the uninsured rate, protected people with pre-existing conditions, let young adults stay on their parents’ plans, and even slowed healthcare spending growth for years? Yeah, weird how that part always gets left out. That chart you’re clinging to? It doesn’t show healthcare costs rising. It shows healthcare taking up a larger share of household spending—which is exactly what happens when: Americans get older and need more care, Boomers own their homes outright and spend less on housing, And retirees live on fixed incomes, making every dollar count more. This is a demographic reality, not an Obamacare failure. Unless you think the ACA was supposed to reverse aging, cure chronic disease, and rebalance household budgets by magic? And while we’re at it, let’s talk about Trump. He ran on “repeal and replace” for four years—and delivered neither. No plan, no fix, no clue. Just lawsuits to strip coverage and tweets pretending that counted as policy. Let’s be real - you don’t actually care about any of this. You’re just mourning the fact that you got played. Again.
B-Man Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Thanks, Obama! Turns Out the 'Affordable Care Act' Made Healthcare MORE EXPENSIVE Than Food, Housing Amy Curtis We had to pass Obamacare in 2010 because it was the only thing that would stop healthcare costs from spiraling out of control. Except it didn't. Now, Americans spend more on healthcare than housing and food. {snip} These two things are related: whenever the government subsidizes something, it gets more expensive. Just like education. Men -- single men -- were required to buy insurance plans with maternity coverage so they could pay for some woman's OB-GYN. Because 'fairness' or something. https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2025/07/07/ag-hamilton-obamacare-federal-healthcare-spending-n2415328
Orlando Buffalo Posted July 8 Posted July 8 The only thing that is good from it is lowering the rate of uninsured. That could have been accomplished by expanding Medicaid for about 5-8% of the cost. The rest of it was limiting options and allowing health insurance companies to deny vital medicines to be denied. There is no private market anymore and no one will create a new company because unless you can start with a million customers you can't compete. Truly a horrible bill that has cost the country trillions is waste and caused inefficiency 1
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