Political Violence: Where Do You Stand? New Poll Question on Charlie Kirk Assassination

[Tommy Callahan]

Ironic that liberals don't want results for their actions.  When that's actually the definition of liberal.   

 

 

[GaryPinC]

Just now, BillsFanNC said:

 Link? Citation? Or is "my research says" sufficient ?

 

😂

Right in my other post to Bundy.  A nice table all listed and labeled real nice for ya.  Google will help you tie the two names together.

[BillsFanNC]

Just now, GaryPinC said:

Right in my other post to Bundy.  A nice table all listed and labeled real nice for ya.  Google will help you tie the two names together.

 

You know you can link to posts right, Bundy?

 

 

[GaryPinC]

1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

You know you can link to posts right, Bundy?

 

 

So tough for you to scroll on page 14.😩

[BillsFanNC]

15 minutes ago, GaryPinC said:

So tough for you to scroll on page 14.😩

 

Your table is missing this one from 2021.

 

Also classifying Boelter as right is laughable.

 

Data is therefore rejected. Recompile and resubmit.

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

Bump

[Homelander]

On 4/30/2025 at 4:29 PM, BillsFanNC said:

🚨 JUST IN: JACK POSOBIEC asks the first question at the White House press briefing to the new media.

Very good question. You never get any of this from the MSM briefings.

@JackPosobiec: "One of the things that's been troubling me and has actually even affected me over the last 24 hours is the rise of violence that we've seen from elements of the far left, starting with things like Luigi Mangione, the support for these unhuman organizations like MS-13, Tren de Aragua, and even, of course, the assassination attempts on President Trump - Thomas Matthew Crooks and Ryan Routh, as well as numerous incidents against anyone who owns a Tesla, apparently."

"You don't really see the Democrats opposing these things [...] What is the administration doing DOJ-wise or FBI-wise to combat this rise in violence that we're seeing?"

LEAVITT: "I absolutely agree with the premise of your question, which I usually don't when I take questions  at a podium, but certainly you're right. We have seen a rise in political violence that stems from the left, dating back to the Black Lives Matter movement,  which the left and the Democrats don't want to talk about much, but they burned down American cities.  And the Joe Biden administration did nothing to prosecute those who created that violence, oftentimes not just destroying businesses, but also lives and communities as well."

"You look at the rise of violence against the president himself and his supporters. You had two heinous assassination attempts from leftist lunatics, and the president is lucky and blessed to be here today because he was able to survive that political violence and those assassination attempts."

"Look at the recent attacks on Tesla, on Elon Musk's company. It's quite ironic because Democrats and leftists were the greatest fans of Tesla."

"No longer do we have a Justice Department that chooses prosecutions based on one's political affiliation. If you break the law, you will be held accountable for that."

"The attorney general spoke earlier about how there have been several cases brought against those who have perpetrated this political violence against Tesla, which is a great American-made company."

"The president is leading by example and I think the restoration of justice we've seen at the DOJ under the leadership of Pam Bondi and Kash Patel, who's doing an incredible job as the FBI director, is a testament to that."

 

Yet another missed opportunity to open a new thread or to unequivocally condemn all violence.

 

 

[Homelander]

On 3/21/2025 at 1:25 PM, BillsFanNC said:

Also won't go on record and condemn ALL political violence. 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[GaryPinC]

10 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Your table is missing this one from 2021.

 

Also classifying Boelter as right is laughable.

 

Data is therefore rejected. Recompile and resubmit.

 

 

I'm glad you brought this one up.  Classic example of the media over-reacting to initial facts and in the end (investigation and in court) Brandt was lying about Ellingson being a right wing extremist and why he was run over.  They didn't discuss all of it, but Brandt's autism played a central role in why he ran down Ellingson.

 

Neither man was markedly political.  So this example was not an example of political activism and thus was not included in the study.  All the other data is cited names, dates.  They're not invalidated because one may be missing, that's classically ignorant.  The data and study remain valid.

 

https://apnews.com/article/bismarck-north-dakota-c6a2c46243e6655dd71a47b7df55087e

 

North Dakota Highway Patrol Capt. Bryan Niewind said Friday that authorities have talked to dozens of witnesses and plan to talk to more as they try to get a better picture of exactly what happened before the crash.

“I can’t get into details about what the witnesses are describing to us. But what I can tell you is that this is not political in nature at all,” he said, adding: “There is no evidence to support Brandt’s claim on the 911 call that Mr. Ellingson was a Republican extremist. There is no evidence to support that all through our continued investigation.”

 

https://kfgo.com/2023/09/08/885613/

 

A psychological exam of Brandt and subsequent report by experts was central to both the prosecution’s and the defense’s arguments, as well as the judge’s decision. Cruff spent a significant portion of his sentencing addressing Brandt’s autism diagnosis, which the experts said impacted his ability to interpret social situations and prompted an exaggerated reaction and response to the confrontation with Ellingson. Cruff faulted Brandt for consuming alcohol which the judge said Brandt knew amplified his reactions.

“You didn’t intentionally run him over. I acknowledge that. I understand what the experts in this case are saying about how your mind works. And you didn’t intentionally kill Cayler. But he did die. And that’s a result of your alcohol consumption. You recklessly pushed Cayler to the ground with your SUV, you recklessly ran him over, and you recklessly killed him,” Cruff said. 

[BillsFanNC]

10 hours ago, GaryPinC said:

I'm glad you brought this one up.  Classic example of the media over-reacting to initial facts and in the end (investigation and in court) Brandt was lying about Ellingson being a right wing extremist and why he was run over.  They didn't discuss all of it, but Brandt's autism played a central role in why he ran down Ellingson.

 

Neither man was markedly political.  So this example was not an example of political activism and thus was not included in the study.  All the other data is cited names, dates.  They're not invalidated because one may be missing, that's classically ignorant.  The data and study remain valid.

 

https://apnews.com/article/bismarck-north-dakota-c6a2c46243e6655dd71a47b7df55087e

 

North Dakota Highway Patrol Capt. Bryan Niewind said Friday that authorities have talked to dozens of witnesses and plan to talk to more as they try to get a better picture of exactly what happened before the crash.

“I can’t get into details about what the witnesses are describing to us. But what I can tell you is that this is not political in nature at all,” he said, adding: “There is no evidence to support Brandt’s claim on the 911 call that Mr. Ellingson was a Republican extremist. There is no evidence to support that all through our continued investigation.”

 

https://kfgo.com/2023/09/08/885613/

 

A psychological exam of Brandt and subsequent report by experts was central to both the prosecution’s and the defense’s arguments, as well as the judge’s decision. Cruff spent a significant portion of his sentencing addressing Brandt’s autism diagnosis, which the experts said impacted his ability to interpret social situations and prompted an exaggerated reaction and response to the confrontation with Ellingson. Cruff faulted Brandt for consuming alcohol which the judge said Brandt knew amplified his reactions.

“You didn’t intentionally run him over. I acknowledge that. I understand what the experts in this case are saying about how your mind works. And you didn’t intentionally kill Cayler. But he did die. And that’s a result of your alcohol consumption. You recklessly pushed Cayler to the ground with your SUV, you recklessly ran him over, and you recklessly killed him,” Cruff said. 

 

😂

 

Hey. Hand waving. How novel.

 

 Any social science "research" coming out of universities authored by leftists, which is 95% of faculties, is going to have massive holes. 

 

Garbage in garbage out.

 

They made purposely false conclusions about covid origins for crying out loud. Where they had hard data telling them it most likely was of lab origin (and their private discussions said the same) and yet they published a paper in Nature, friggin NATURE, that concluded natural origin instead.

 

Therefore any research coming out of the academy around any topic even tangentially related to current political debate you have to assume is flawed at best, made up at worst.

 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

An ANTIFA - USAID connection?

 

Shocking!

 

In addition to what others have pointed out about The Prosecution Project being run by a former antifa (Michael Loadenthal) they are a comically lazy and stupid organization. Much of the data they put out on the 2020 riots was compiled by us, copied by them, then labeled as not left wing.

 

How do we know that? Because one of their employees accidentally sent in a request for edit permissions on our spreadsheet that they copied from specifically listing instructions from Loadenthal

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

We are supposed to trust "academic research" on ideological motivations for political violence when more than a week after the biggest political assassination in this country in 60 years, NPR and other reliable media used as sources for this type of "research" are still lying about the "unknown motives" of the assassin.

 

Yeah, hard pass on your "research"

 

 

Edited September 19 by BillsFanNC

[Homelander]

On 3/20/2025 at 12:23 PM, BillsFanNC said:

 

You either condemn ALL political violence without parsing and hand waving or you can't/won't. 

 

On 3/24/2025 at 9:42 AM, BillsFanNC said:

Remains unwilling to condem all political violence. 

 

Paging @BillsFanNC - notice what comes around goes around?

 

 

 

 

[Commsvet11]

17 minutes ago, Homelander said:

 

 

Paging @BillsFanNC - notice what comes around goes around?

 

 

 

 

Spam!

[BillsFanNC]

I've seen a lot of quoted posts where billsloser stain is tagging me.

 

Since I've got him on ignore I don't get notifications.

 

Regardless, I've been told that unwanted tagging is verboten here. I've got a warning point to prove it.

 

Maybe someone should bring this to the attention of Simon..

 

Who am I kidding?

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Big Blitz]

All in one week!  
 

 

 

The Left:

- Democrat pedophile George Zinn distracts law enforcement falsely claiming to be Charlie’s shooter, helping the assassin get away, charged criminally

- Bomb was planted on a Fox News vehicle by two Democrat voters, criminal and terrorism charges

- Massive Charlie Kirk memorial vandalized and destroyed in Arizona, criminal charges

- DNC super-donor shoots up the ABC affiliate building in Sacramento, criminal charges

- Jimmy Kimmel Show suspended for lying about left wing terrorism

- Thousands upon thousands of leftist losing their jobs for celebrating Kirk's death

- A Texas Tech student assaulted a Charlie Kirk supporter, expulsion and criminal charges

- A Texas State student mocked Charlie’s death and threatened TPUSA students, expulsion

- 58 House Democrats vote AGAINST disavowing political violence

- Brett Kavanaugh's left-wing political assassin comes out as trans

= A bomb threat at RFK Jr’s house, criminal charges

 

This is all in one week. 
 

Tell me this is a 'both-sides' issue. No.
 

Political violence in America is driven entirely by Left-wing violence committed by Democrats. It is a national epidemic, driven by the media and those in power who actively celebrate violence as a political tool. It’s only getting worse. 
 

Law enforcement and Republican politicians need to get very, very serious about this.
 

Now.

[BillsFanNC]