GaryPinC Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago On 6/26/2025 at 8:57 AM, LeviF said: Uh, yeah, that's what "deferred action" means. It's kicking your deportation down the road a couple of years as a matter of discretion. He had 14 years (renewed his deferment six times, that means) to get his ***** together and get out on his own. It's also a grey area of the law utilized in complicated situations such as this. He was given a second chance 14 years ago if he met the conditions to check in every year and live a clean life, to be allowed to stay in the country. He made the right choices and ICE honored the agreement until this administration's ICE decided they needed to fill their quota and could point to his past. Well within their rights but that doesn't make it the correct decision. I definitely commend ICE for going after too many violent criminals the dumb ass Biden administration let in. This is not one of them and is just one example of ICE filling quotas so the administration can brag how many criminals they removed. How about they focus on the people that truly need removed even if it means lower numbers deported? On 6/25/2025 at 4:30 PM, Pokebball said: Yeah, I stated it's a sad story. Or perhaps the better way of saying it is that it's unfortunate. And rather than arguing the differences between a green card and a visa, the point is that both come with requirements while in America. Thanks for acknowledging that he is the one responsible for meeting those requirements. Like so many issues, this one comes down to (1) changing the laws or (2) ignoring the laws. You forgot: 3) finding a grey area that the judges, ICE and person can agree on. That's where we were with the former green card veteran who has lived here since 7 years old, made some mistakes and got his life straightened back out. Then our new administration's leadership changed the playing field 18 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Horrible story, though I have to tell you, I'm not sure I agree with you on 'what this country is all about'. I see cases where property owned by families for generations is seized by the government through eminent domain, people are overcharged for crimes or blamed/targeted for the actions of others. I think we probably both wish that sort off ugliness didn't exist, and outrage didn't fall around political lines, but that's the way it is. In this case, I'd think somewhere between "open borders and chaos" and "forcing a 55 year old veteran of the US Army to leave" is probably where we all want to be. That said, we have what we have because of what was allowed and encouraged. It's a mess. Perhaps cooler, more compassionate heads with prevail and this man can be brought back to his family. Let's hope so, and I do hope they will. I also hope ICE will narrow their focus to the immigrant criminals everyone would like to see removed instead of removing productive members of society just because they have an excuse to do so. There can be humanity in administering the laws and I think most Americans would want to be in that space.
GaryPinC Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 19 hours ago, Roundybout said: They’re overcrowded because they’re desperately trying to hit their quotas, so they’re shoving people into facilities with no actual plan on processing them in an orderly fashion. They’re still far below the goal. Remains to be seen. It wouldn’t surprise me, given how barbaric and inhumane ICE agents are. You're way over the top on this until more facts are known. We don't know the man's medical history for starters. 1
Pokebball Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 48 minutes ago, GaryPinC said: You forgot: 3) finding a grey area that the judges, ICE and person can agree on. That's where we were with the former green card veteran who has lived here since 7 years old, made some mistakes and got his life straightened back out. Then our new administration's leadership changed the playing field Let's hope so, and I do hope they will. I also hope ICE will narrow their focus to the immigrant criminals everyone would like to see removed instead of removing productive members of society just because they have an excuse to do so. There can be humanity in administering the laws and I think most Americans would want to be in that space. Oh, the shades of grey defense. IMO that is " ignoring the law".
GaryPinC Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, Pokebball said: Oh, the shades of grey defense. IMO that is " ignoring the law". Your opinion is steeped in ignorance. The situation conforms to the law, it's just that there's more legal options than you would prefer. Here's another example: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iranian-woman-who-has-lived-in-us-for-47-years-taken-by-ice-while-gardening/ar-AA1Hxggc?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e3a0033ecfa94b92ab824d48d80a4079&ei=26 Way to go ICEholes! Take the easy way to filling that quota rather than work harder to find and kick out the criminal immigrants who truly need to go.
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