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23 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


This from the same guy who shrieks about National Divorce/Civil War is absolutely delightful 

You mean the former secret service agent for Obama? He might know a little bit.

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5 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

You truly believe , given years to think about, that the guys who wanted to overthrow the govt did it without the guns we know they had? Bless your heart.

He tried to overturn an election.  He is the threat to Democracy.

8 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

When were the fake electors presented to Congress? 

They weren't, in large part because Mike Pence, the man Trump's mob wanted to lynch, wouldn't recognize them.

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Posted
5 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

You mean the former secret service agent for Obama? He might know a little bit.

You don't have to be the sharpest tool in the shed to take a bullet.

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35 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

When were the fake electors presented to Congress? 

85. January 6, 2021: At 11:36 a.m., Troupis sends a text message to U.S. Senator Ron Johnson, in which he says, “We need to get a document on the Wisconsin electors to you for the VP immediately. Is there a staff person I can talk to immediately. Thanks Jim T” At 11:42 a.m. Senator Johnson sends Troupis a text connecting him with Sean Riley, whom he identifies as his new chief of staff. (Penebaker docs: Troupis docs, pp. 575-77)

Troupis then texts Chesebro and writes, “I have been on phone w Mike Roman and Senator Johnson and Johnson’s COS to get an original copy of Wi slate to VP. Not sure if u are involved but call Mike to make sure he gets what he needs. Thanks.” Chesebro responds that he had dropped off the original copies to a congressional aide the prior day who, according to him, had “walked it over to the Senate Parliamentarian.” (Penebaker docs: texts, pp. 77-80)

 

Additionally, pence was being asked (demanded of) to supersede congress.  Multiple attempts were made to deliver the fake electors to him esp by Wisc Sen Johnson.

 

You know all this, play ignorant and are therefore fine with the entire scheme.  Shame on you. 

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1 minute ago, Scraps said:

You don't have to be the sharpest tool in the shed to take a bullet.

 

You wouldn't take on a hangnail for a free coke.  But you be all the smartz, as demonstrated by your illustrious posts dripping with perspicacity.

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13 hours ago, Scraps said:

Jan 6 2021.

 

July 13th, 2024.

September 15th 2024

 

Two assassination attempts on a Presidential Candidate is a lot more serious than a media sponsored photo-op of a guy in a Viking helmet running around in in the capitol building almost four years ago.

 

Get some new material.

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18 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

July 13th, 2024.

September 15th 2024

 

Two assassination attempts on a Presidential Candidate is a lot more serious than a media sponsored photo-op of a guy in a Viking helmet running around in in the capitol building almost four years ago.

 

Get some new material.

What about?  What about...? Jan 6 stands on its own.  You don't really believe it was a photo op but you say it because you can't publicly admit that subverting the democratic process is just fine with you and that your only upset it didn't work

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17 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

July 13th, 2024.

September 15th 2024

 

Two assassination attempts on a Presidential Candidate is a lot more serious than a media sponsored photo-op of a guy in a Viking helmet running around in in the capitol building almost four years ago.

 

Get some new material.

Assassination attempts don't demonstrate Trump's fidelity to Democracy.

 

Are you saying the MSM is responsible for the breach at the Capitol on Jan 6 2021??

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8 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

What about?  What about...? Jan 6 stands on its own.  You don't really believe it was a photo op but you say it because you can't publicly admit that subverting the democratic process is just fine with you and that your only upset it didn't work

 

7 minutes ago, Scraps said:

Assassination attempts don't demonstrate Trump's fidelity to Democracy.

 

Are you saying the MSM is responsible for the breach at the Capitol on Jan 6 2021??

 

Reichstag fires.  It is all you have. Your party tried to kill the opposition twice. That is worse. Deflect, minimize and gaslight all you want, that is the truth. Period.

 

I blame the MSM on both sides of the spectrum for both Jan 6th and the assassination attempts. We need to go back to news instead of media entertainment.

 

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

 

Reichstag fires.  It is all you have. Your party tried to kill the opposition twice. That is worse. Deflect, minimize and gaslight all you want, that is the truth. Period.

 

I blame the MSM on both sides of the spectrum for both Jan 6th and the assassination attempts. We need to go back to news instead of media entertainment.

 

 

 

 

You don't know what party I belong to, or if I am in any party. 

 

The first would be assassin was a registered Republican.  The second had actually voted for Trump in 2016.

 

Jan 6 wouldn't have happened if Trump had accepted the results of the election.  Deflect, minimize and gaslight all you want, that is the truth. Period.

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34 minutes ago, Scraps said:

You don't know what party I belong to, or if I am in any party. 

 

The first would be assassin was a registered Republican.  The second had actually voted for Trump in 2016.

 

Jan 6 wouldn't have happened if Trump had accepted the results of the election.  Deflect, minimize and gaslight all you want, that is the truth. Period.

 

Come on now. We both know that this is a lazy spin that leaves out a lot of other facts about the assassins. Not one word in that reply is an original thought.

 

If I wanted CNN's recap of the topic, I would have gone on their site.

 

What is your real opinion on the topic?

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1 hour ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

I blame the MSM on both sides of the spectrum for both Jan 6th

explain

 

while your at it explain your bizarre and and suspicious reference to Reichstag fire.  Do you mean that MAGA's planned Jan 6 to cause changes in laws that would make them more powerful?

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-reichstag-fire

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29 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

Come on now. We both know that this is a lazy spin that leaves out a lot of other facts about the assassins. Not one word in that reply is an original thought.

 

If I wanted CNN's recap of the topic, I would have gone on their site.

 

What is your real opinion on the topic?

And what you spit out isn't "lazy spin"?

 

Why would I be so original anyway?  I don't know either of these men.  My information comes from what I read.

 

My real opinion are that both these people were/are mentally ill.  Isn't that the same thing the uber pro 2nd amendment crowd says after every mass shooting?  Why should it be different this time?

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22 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

explain

 

while your at it explain your bizarre and and suspicious reference to Reichstag fire.  Do you mean that MAGA's planned Jan 6 to cause changes in laws that would make them more powerful?

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-reichstag-fire

 

CNN, NBC news, Fox and other similar stations focus on appeals to emotion, gossip and telling us what we should be outraged about. When you tell people everyday that the opposing candidate is a threat to democracy like CNN or NBCNews does, or put in a seed of a fraudulent election like Fox did in 2020, eventually some nutcase will go vigilante like we have seen in both Jan 6th or the assassination attempts.

 

Yes, my statement is nothing to be confused about. Jan 6th is to the Democrats what the Reichstag fires are to the Nazi's. They are using it as a blanket excuse to justify suppressing opposing views. It is as simple as that to me. Whether or not you agree does not change my opinion and hand picked propaganda with a leftist spin won't either.

 

You probably assume that i am a MAGA but that is not the case. I traditionally vote libertarian and independent in elections. I personally see the both the Marxist far left and the Christian Nationalist far right as equally crazy and dangerous. The only difference is that just one of them is being pushed as the norm by the media. To me the media as it is in the US is a much bigger threat to this country than either party.

4 minutes ago, Scraps said:

And what you spit out isn't "lazy spin"?

 

Why would I be so original anyway?  I don't know either of these men.  My information comes from what I read.

 

My real opinion are that both these people were/are mentally ill.  Isn't that the same thing the uber pro 2nd amendment crowd says after every mass shooting?  Why should it be different this time?

 

"My information comes from what I read."

 

In all fairness, most people would say that and this is exactly why the media presenting one political party's ideology as neutral reporting is so dangerous to the US.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

CNN, NBC news, Fox and other similar stations focus on appeals to emotion, gossip and telling us what we should be outraged about. When you tell people everyday that the opposing candidate is a threat to democracy like CNN or NBCNews does, or put in a seed of a fraudulent election like Fox did in 2020, eventually some nutcase will go vigilante like we have seen in both Jan 6th or the assassination attempts.

 

Yes, Jan 6th is to the dems what the Reichstag fires are to the Nazi's. They are using it as a blanket excuse to justify allowing opposing views. It is as simple as that to me. Whether or not you agree does not change my opinion and hand picked propaganda with a leftist spins won't either.

 

You probably assume that i am a MAGA but that is not the case. I traditionally vote libertarian and independent in elections. I personally see the both the Marxist far left and the Christian Nationalist far right as equally crazy and dangerous. The only difference is that just one of them is being pushed as the norm by the media. To me the media as it is in the US is a much bigger threat to this country than either party.

Name some Marxist D's with their most Marxist positions.  What was Jan 6 to the R's?  What was the purpose?

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