blzrul Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 My husband met a military recruiter week before last on a plane from San Antonio. The guy told him he made a point of approaching people in cars with "support our troops" stickers and was becoming quite discouraged at the fact that so far those people had, without exception, told him no WAY were THEY going to sign up. So much for Supporting the Troops. I guess the bumper sticker is about as far as they're willing to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 My husband met a military recruiter week before last on a plane from San Antonio. The guy told him he made a point of approaching people in cars with "support our troops" stickers and was becoming quite discouraged at the fact that so far those people had, without exception, told him no WAY were THEY going to sign up. So much for Supporting the Troops. I guess the bumper sticker is about as far as they're willing to go. 339731[/snapback] Heinlein was right. 100%. Only veterans should have the right to vote. Because only WE have served and protected this democracy. The rest of you, well, didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 Heinlein was right. 100%. Only veterans should have the right to vote. Because only WE have served and protected this democracy. The rest of you, well, didn't. 339741[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 339758[/snapback] Ever read Starship Troopers? I think JSP doesn't quite get Heinlein's point in the book...but you should read it if you haven't. It's very good, if not his best work then certainly in the top 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 Ever read Starship Troopers? I think JSP doesn't quite get Heinlein's point in the book...but you should read it if you haven't. It's very good, if not his best work then certainly in the top 3. 339761[/snapback] I haven't read it. Its up there though eh? I'll check it out then. Lately I've been reading a lot of Chuck Palahniuk. He's awesome! I love his satirical looks on human nature and society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tux of Borg Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Mommy, please make the bad man go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Ever read Starship Troopers? I think JSP doesn't quite get Heinlein's point in the book...but you should read it if you haven't. It's very good, if not his best work then certainly in the top 3. 339761[/snapback] yes, yes, i understand that Heinlein was being snide in his evaluation of his future societ, but in the end, his idea was fundamentally correct. Only those who serve the greater good should have a say in its future. the rest can go back to their American Idol and Access Hollywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 yes, yes, i understand that Heinlein was being snide in his evaluation of his future societ, but in the end, his idea was fundamentally correct. Only those who serve the greater good should have a say in its future. the rest can go back to their American Idol and Access Hollywood. 339979[/snapback] Ooooh...you're almost there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Ooooh...you're almost there... 339987[/snapback] I've been there, Tommy. Why don't you share YOUR book report with the class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Gant Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 There should be no standing army. The spirit of this country is totally adverse to a large military force." --Thomas Jefferson to Chandler Price, 1807. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 I don't have to answer that, because RkFast told me you're un-American because a school in Seattle banned military recruiters... 339673[/snapback] Right...because that was really my point. You show me where in this thread I specificially where I said my point applies to ALL people on the Left, and Ill show you how to get your real handle back, Mr. Genius. Funny...you scoffed at me becuase I didnt get your "sublety" a while back, but youre too dense to understand the basic idea that we're not talking in absolutes here. , indeed. Same goes for YOU, bluefire and Campy. Where did I exactly say "EVERYONE"? So many people here who love to pat themselves on the back about how "smart" they are, but still too stupid to undertsand the difference between "(some of) those on" and "all of them". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Heinlein was right. 100%. Only veterans should have the right to vote. Because only WE have served and protected this democracy. The rest of you, well, didn't. 339741[/snapback] Its a volunteer Army. And I pay my taxes. Im covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 You show me where in this thread I specificially where I said my point applies to ALL people on the Left340018[/snapback] http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=339615 ...those on the Left "support the troops", right? They can be "against the war but FOR the troops", right? Looks like an absolute to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=339615Looks like an absolute to me. 340044[/snapback] I dont see the word "EVERYONE" there. Or "all of you". Or "all of you are all the same". Or anything like that. Is the fact that I didnt mean EVERYONE on the left too SUBTLE to unnerstand? Lets move on............................................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Gant Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Heinlein was right. 100%. Only veterans should have the right to vote. Because only WE have served and protected this democracy. The rest of you, well, didn't. 339741[/snapback] Failed Syllogism of the day: Democracy is universal sufferage Veterans protect universal sufferage Only veterans should have sufferage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD Jarhead Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Whats funny is that the same people who look to ban military recruiters from high schools and COLLEGES will whine that the very same military "unfairly targets the poor and minorities". 339615[/snapback] Hypocracy 101...Againt, the radical leftists in this nation have nothing else to offer except killing babies, gay marriage and military bad. They talk out of both sides of their mouth. I'd like to see the military pull the bases out of the Seattle area and watch them grovel. It truly is sickening. This is but another small chip away at the foundation of our nation. We see these small chips at an increasing rate, but eventually the house is going to fall as the foundation crumbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Failed Syllogism of the day: Democracy is universal sufferage Veterans protect universal sufferage Only veterans should have sufferage 340052[/snapback] Democracy does NOT equal universal sufferage. Ask the Greeks, Venetians, and our founding fathers. There are plenty of people in this country unqualified to vote. Idiots and illiterates: or in other words, 90% of the population. My whole point is that the people who least deserve to vote are still allowed to vote... those who leech off the state, those who never served to protect the nation, and those who protest the people who are protecting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 I dont see the word "EVERYONE" there. Or "all of you". Or "all of you are all the same". Or anything like that. Is the fact that I didnt mean EVERYONE on the left too SUBTLE to unnerstand? Lets move on............................................ 340050[/snapback] What part of "those on the Left" implies "well, not ALL of those on the Left"? What, are you channelling BF today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Democracy does NOT equal universal sufferage. Ask the Greeks, Venetians, and our founding fathers. 340079[/snapback] By its very definition, democracy does equate to universal suffrage. Neither the Greek or Venetian governments were true democracies. The American style of government is not a true democracy either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Gant Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Failed Syllogism of the day: Democracy is universal sufferage Veterans protect universal sufferage Only veterans should have sufferage 340052[/snapback] Revised Syllogism Democracy is government by the people Veterans protect government by the people Veterans are the only people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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