Coffeesforclosers Posted Sunday at 04:14 PM Posted Sunday at 04:14 PM Here's the actual proposal, so people can read it.
JDHillFan Posted Sunday at 04:15 PM Posted Sunday at 04:15 PM 1 minute ago, Niagara Bill said: Have no idea if this is true. That is my point. Tracy? He has read it? Right! Politicians, reporters, bureaucrats, publishers...the stories are so far apart they cannot be believed. Since Bush's WMD stories, to Clintons I never had sex with that woman, to trump, to Biden, from Fox to CNN, nothing is ever just true, it is always just a version to influence. You indicated your displeasure with this statement: 1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said: Russia's wish list, prepared by the US...all makes sense. In reality you don’t know the first thing about “Russia’s wish list”. Makes your comment irrelevant. You make more sense when you’re talking about the invasion of Canada and canceled elections.
Coffeesforclosers Posted Sunday at 04:27 PM Posted Sunday at 04:27 PM Translation: All those world leaders and US Allies think the proposal is a bag of *****. But so long as you take some time to fluff the President's ego, he'll change his mind or lose interest and do whatever. We'll just have to wait and see, this will probably take about two weeks to sort out.
Niagara Bill Posted Sunday at 04:28 PM Posted Sunday at 04:28 PM 10 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: You indicated your displeasure with this statement: In reality you don’t know the first thing about “Russia’s wish list”. Makes your comment irrelevant. You make more sense when you’re talking about the invasion of Canada and canceled elections. Never said I knew, but that was a dem politicians mouthing off. Lies abd more lies, from everyone...
Coffeesforclosers Posted yesterday at 01:44 PM Posted yesterday at 01:44 PM (edited) 20 hours ago, JDHillFan said: Zelensky’s former press secretary. Sounds like a really strong, humanitarian argument for ending the war as soon as possible. Should be pretty easy to do with skilled diplomacy and a fresh set of eyes. Especially now that Sleepy Joe is gone. It's not like we're sleepwalking through a bloodbath that Biden couldn't prevent and Trump can't end. Edited yesterday at 01:47 PM by Coffeesforclosers
JDHillFan Posted yesterday at 01:51 PM Posted yesterday at 01:51 PM 3 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Sounds like a really strong, humanitarian argument for ending the war as soon as possible. Should be pretty easy to do with skilled diplomacy and a fresh set of eyes. Especially now that Sleepy Joe is gone. It's not like we're sleepwalking through a bloodbath that Biden couldn't prevent and Trump can't end. But hey, my senile (*^*&%^$^#of a President is better than your senile (*^*&%^$^#of a President. That's what actually matters. A truly unhinged and embarrassing post. I don’t know if you noticed it in your overemotional state, but the tweet and words from that lady did not mention anything about presidents or anyone else by name. Really nice work on your part. It’s going to be very sad for you when your Internet hobby dries up isn’t it? A lot of other people will be glad that the killing is over. When it eventually happens, that is.
Coffeesforclosers Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) How Rubio Tried to Bring a Pro-Russia Peace Plan to Middle Ground: While President Trump attacked the Ukrainians, Secretary of State Marco Rubio flew to Geneva to seize control of negotiations that were going off the rails. Quote Russia experts have assessed that there are no signs yet that Mr. Putin is ready to end the full-scale invasion of Ukraine he started in February 2022, or that he would abide by a permanent cease-fire. Mr. Putin has rejected every immediate cease-fire proposal offered by Mr. Trump this year. Edited 5 hours ago by Coffeesforclosers 1
B-Man Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago President Trump got the negotiations going, Now it looks as if they are hammering out the problems with the initial proposal. US, Ukraine agree on new 19-point peace plan that’s different from Trump’s previous one by Ronny Reyes & Caitlyn Doombos A new version of a peace plan hammered out on between senior Washington and Kyiv delegations is proving more palatable to Ukrainians — and would remove several provisions that were previously described by US officials as “maximalist demands” by Moscow. The new plan — said to include about 19 points — would nix one of the most controversial provisions of the 28-point plan reported last week — that Ukraine would have to give up territory in the Donbas that Russia has been unable to conquer in more than 11 years of war there https://nypost.com/2025/11/24/world-news/us-ukraine-agree-on-new-19-point-peace-plan-thats-vastly-different-from-trumps-previous-one-reports/
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