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Tiberius Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, dubs said: What about all those, many, many government programs that work? Sowell is just silly sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: What about all those, many, many government programs that work? Sowell is just silly sometimes I suppose it depends on what your definition of "work" is? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 23 hours ago, Tiberius said: Good point about the Amish! And yes, urban poverty is splashed across the tv screen, but those people in red states waiting in line to see a free health care traveling clinic don’t seem to get much attention, sad as that is. Well, that's because they have the wrong pigmentation. Hey, quick question tibs, are Amish people racist as well. Should they have white guilt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, westside2 said: Hey, quick question tibs, are Amish people racist as well. Should they have white guilt? I think the Amish should seek reparations from the Quakers and all those who have diminished beliefs and way of life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I suppose it depends on what your definition of "work" is? Lifting the elderly out of poverty? Before Great Society, the elderly were mostly poor, not anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Just now, Tiberius said: Lifting the elderly out of poverty? Before Great Society, the elderly were mostly poor, not anymore. Social security is just the government's way of stealing your money and giving it to their friends and family. It's a bogus scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, westside2 said: Well, that's because they have the wrong pigmentation. Hey, quick question tibs, are Amish people racist as well. Should they have white guilt? I live near the Amish and use to buy firewood from them. Not sure if they are racist. I know they don’t strictly stay away from using technology though. Power tools, getting driven around, getting drunk while fishing and all, good people. The local Amish leader was all upset because some of the kids were using condoms, lol. Just now, westside2 said: Social security is just the government's way of stealing your money and giving it to their friends and family. It's a bogus scheme. It works. So does Medicare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Just now, Tiberius said: Lifting the elderly out of poverty? Before Great Society, the elderly were mostly poor, not anymore. Oh, I thought your definition of work was going to be: Creating bureaucracies where a disproportionate amount of taxpayer money goes to the bloated administration of the programs; programs creating generational environments where it is more advantageous to not have a father or bread winner in the home, and create dependency on the government; creating programs where there are little to no actual processes in place to adequately monitor legitimate from illigitimate administration of services, and to prevent billions of dollars of fraud, waste and abuse; or any real mechanisms in place to determine when the program is no longer needed - or even to provide incentives to move recipients in the direction of no longer needing the services. My bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said: Oh, I thought your definition of work was going to be: Creating bureaucracies where a disproportionate amount of taxpayer money goes to the bloated administration of the programs; programs creating generational environments where it is more advantageous to not have a father or bread winner in the home, and create dependency on the government; creating programs where there are little to no actual processes in place to adequately monitor legitimate from illigitimate administration of services, and to prevent billions of dollars of fraud, waste and abuse; or any real mechanisms in place to determine when the program is no longer needed - or even to provide incentives to move recipients in the direction of no longer needing the services. My bad Benefits outweigh the costs. I really wish your politicians would actually try and dismantle the government programs that work so well. Openly, but they don’t because people like them. Trump is trying to kill Obamacare, so maybe the non elected branch of government can kill that popular government program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Benefits didn't outweigh the costs. FIFY. The epitaph on the tombstone of Socialism... Edited June 27, 2020 by billsfan1959 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: FIFY. The epitaph on the tombstone of Socialism... I wish you guys would actually run political campaigns stating that Medicare, SS and everything else needs to go. It’s like a hidden agenda for you guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: I wish you guys would actually run political campaigns stating that Medicare, SS and everything else needs to go. It’s like a hidden agenda for you guys I would suppose that the Republicans don't run those kinds of campaigns because that is not what they believe. Classic liberalism. When someone disagrees with you on any topic, just make hyperbolic accusations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I wish you guys would actually run political campaigns stating that Medicare, SS and everything else needs to go. It’s like a hidden agenda for you guys ...actually, the PPP consensus is that we are awaiting yours...........you are our very own "Jim Jones" leader............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I would suppose that the Republicans don't run those kinds of campaigns because that is not what they believe. Classic liberalism. When someone disagrees with you on any topic, just make hyperbolic accusations. Those are the government programs that Sowell is crying totalitarianism over. Just silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Those are the government programs that Sowell is crying totalitarianism over. Just silly Sowell is not denouncing all government programs. He is denouncing the idea that government programs are the answers to every problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Just now, billsfan1959 said: Sowell is not denouncing all government programs. He is denouncing the idea that government programs are the answers to every problem. ....Tibs thought he was a Seattle protester......go easy............... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 7:26 AM, Tiberius said: 1) Everything you can imagine! Some it’s just casual jokes, racism with a smile, and some is just down right nasty as can be. And no, it wasn’t everyone, but it was not challenged. No, I just stay quiet. Why are you so violent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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