Killed by police

[The Guy In Pants]

4 hours ago, Motorin' said:

 

No, it's racist to bring up gang and criminal violence in the black community to excuse unjust violence and murder of black men by police. Yes, both forms of violence are wrong. 

 

Forgive me if this doesn't apply to you, but I hear "what about black on black crime, what about murders in Chicago" so often from white dudes who don't live in a black community or anywhere near Chicago that it makes me wonder if they really give a flying f about violence there. 

 

Similarly with the argument: how come nobody ever talks about black on black crime? That's usually another sign that the person doesn't live anywhere near or talk regularly with people who live and work in black communities.  You probably have no idea how much it is talked about and how much effort is put into dealing with it if you don't live there or work there. 

 

Police brutality and inner city violence are both plagues in the black community. Both are wrong. The last time I checked, street gangs and drug cartels that operate through our nation's cities don't abide by the Constitutional requirement to offer a redress of grievances. Forgive me again if this is not you, but it seems like people often use the existence of gang violence in the black community as an argument against there being substance to the redress of grievance as it pertains to police violence. So yes, those folks are part of the problem. One part...

No, I completely understand. It’s a two sided coin. Those who only see police brutality as a problem and those who only see inner city violence as the problem. 

I am aware of how much time and effort go into trying to curb the influx of inner city violence. I know I will receive backlash from this statement but it is the truth; local police, churches and some business are usually very active in programs designed to mold youth and try to direct people away from violence. Sadly, there are also members of society who profit from these programs with little contributions to the communities.

Most just latch on to an opinion or a movement due to emotion. It’s hard not to as human beings because, so much of who were are as individuals is driven by our emotional response to things that happen in our lives. That’s an entirely different conversation that dives into the world of neurobiology and there are people here who would not want to hear it and probably wouldn’t want to entertain the ideas brought forth.

 

 

Anyway, and this is not directed at you; I am very tired of being placed in socio/political boxes simply because I don’t adhere to a recognized standard of outrage. People would do a lot of good to rid themselves of the practice of selective outrage and only being concerned about something when it’s convenient for them.

 

 

 

[billsfan1959]

3 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said:

 

Maybe he's being hunted every day like LeBron James.

 

Ahhh, that would explain constantly changing identities.

[Troll Toll]

4 hours ago, Motorin' said:

 

No, it's racist to bring up gang and criminal violence in the black community to excuse unjust violence and murder of black men by police. Yes, both forms of violence are wrong. 

 

Forgive me if this doesn't apply to you, but I hear "what about black on black crime, what about murders in Chicago" so often from white dudes who don't live in a black community or anywhere near Chicago that it makes me wonder if they really give a flying f about violence there. 

 

Similarly with the argument: how come nobody ever talks about black on black crime? That's usually another sign that the person doesn't live anywhere near or talk regularly with people who live and work in black communities.  You probably have no idea how much it is talked about and how much effort is put into dealing with it if you don't live there or work there. 

 

Police brutality and inner city violence are both plagues in the black community. Both are wrong. The last time I checked, street gangs and drug cartels that operate through our nation's cities don't abide by the Constitutional requirement to offer a redress of grievances. Forgive me again if this is not you, but it seems like people often use the existence of gang violence in the black community as an argument against there being substance to the redress of grievance as it pertains to police violence. So yes, those folks are part of the problem. One part...

Black on black crime is brought up time and time again because that is the root cause of all your so-called “institutional racism”. Where are these large scale protests and marches for black on black crime?
 

You want to blame other things, but ask yourself what is different between black communities and asian communities? Asians have been very successful, I would say much more successful than whites (on average) in America too. Why? They tend to have the strongest family bonds and most dedication to hard work and education. They generally are respectful of others and their property and behave in nonviolent ways. Often times, they are also successful in spite of a massive language barrier. We don’t go around talking about Asian privilege, even though they are the most successful race in America. I don’t know that I’ve ever seen Asian on Asian crime reported in the local news.
 

Much like people, businesses fight for survival. They will hire the candidates with the strongest resumes and interviews, regardless of race.

 

The whole part of this movement that doesn’t jive with me is that there seems to be no accountability or responsibility taken by BLM for the state of affairs in the black community. Everything is somebody else’s fault. Go ahead, defund the police. Then you can’t claim police brutality is holding you back. Doing so will only create an even larger disparity of success for blacks in comparison to other races, but go ahead. Try to be the first race to thrive with lawlessness.

[GregPersons]

21 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

Oh, look, you post under one identity and answer yourself under another one. I am not really sure which is more pathetic, (1) trying to pass yourself off as a victim just out there "begging" for your life, or (2) being so desperate for validation of your pseudo-intellectual, hate-filled, rhetoric that you post conversations with yourself to achieve it.

 

I guess I'll go with option (1), that really is reaching pretty low for attention. Option (2) is more comical, albeit in a sad, fragile kind of way.

 

At some point we're gonna call pencils down on your guesses to my identity, old man. Is this what your career as police was like? Just throwing random ***** against the wall and hoping to see what would stick? 

 

You ain't *****, you ain't never been *****. You know it. It's why you are a pathetic failure.

Edited June 7, 2020 by GregPersons

[billsfan1959]

1 minute ago, GregPersons said:

 

At some point we're gonna call pencils down on your guesses to my identity, old man. Is this what your career as police was like? Just throwing random ***** against the wall and hoping to see what would stick? 

 

You ain't *****, you ain't never been *****. You know it. It's why you are a (probably obese) pathetic failure. 

 

I have an idea. Why don't you provide all of us with details about any of the times you have found yourself, as you put it, "begging for your life," with the police? I think it would be helpful for you to start dealing with your trauma by talking about it. It would also help all of us to better understand the depth of your well of anger that is always on display in your posts.

 

You can trust us. We are all here to help you in anyway we can. Just come down off the ledge....

 

 

[GregPersons]

 

 

Seems like the kind of guy who would probably post at PPP and do well with Billsfan1959.  Angry, old, white, bitter, insane, and nothing to lose. 

[Reality Check]

White man bad.

[GregPersons]

7 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

I have an idea. Why don't you provide all of us with details about any of the times you have found yourself, as you put it, "begging for your life," with the police? I think it would be helpful for you to start dealing with your trauma by talking about it. It would also help all of us to better understand the depth of your well of anger that is always on display in your posts.

 

You can trust us. We are all here to help you in anyway we can. Just come down off the ledge....

 

I have an idea. Say "black lives matter" or say they don't matter. I see you really have fixated on the idea of people or me or whatever your fantasy is here of "begging for life."

 

Another cop thing, huh? Most of us were horrified by the George Floyd video. Why do I get the impression that's on your Pornhub.

 

Where did you serve? Are you proud enough to let us see your public record as a civil servant? Or are you a coward? You had 30+ years on the force. Did you have 1 accomplishment?

 

 

PS — I love that you are actually a cop, and you're actually stupid as *****, and you keep coming back like you aren't the exact image of useless cop hump. I'd love to do some looking through any ***** files of your career. You talk a big game. Back it up, cowboy.

Edited June 7, 2020 by GregPersons

[Reality Check]

6 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

I have an idea. Why don't you provide all of us with details about any of the times you have found yourself, as you put it, "begging for your life," with the police? I think it would be helpful for you to start dealing with your trauma by talking about it. It would also help all of us to better understand the depth of your well of anger that is always on display in your posts.

 

You can trust us. We are all here to help you in anyway we can. Just come down off the ledge....

 

 

His dear leader has a message for black people.

 

 

 

[billsfan1959]

5 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

I have an idea. Say "black lives matter" or say they don't matter. I see you really have fixated on the idea of people or me or whatever your fantasy is here of "begging for life."

 

Another cop thing, huh? Most of us were horrified by the George Floyd video. Why do I get the impression that's on your Pornhub.

 

Where did you serve? Are you proud enough to let us see your public record as a civil servant? Or are you a coward? You had 30+ years on the force. Did you have 1 accomplishment?

 

Of course black lives matter. Now, let's get back to talking about those times you said you were begging for your life from the police. I am really interested in that. I shared some of my life that I thought was relevant to our discussion and I think you should too.

 

So, what about it, care to share some details from those experiences?

 

Edited June 7, 2020 by billsfan1959

[GregPersons]

2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 Of course black lives matter. Now, let's get back to talking about those times you said you were begging for your life from the police. I am really interested in that. I shared some of my life that I thought was relevant to our discussion and I think you should too.

 

So, what about it, care to share some details from those experiences?

 

You've brought up the idea of me "begging" for my life from you... 6 times?  Very normal behavior. Definitely not the mark of a psychopath. Oh and you say you were a cop too? Ohhhhh no kidding??? 

 

So c'mon cobwoy. Care to share some of your accomplishments as an officer? 30+ years you said, right? Surely you must have done something you're proud of. I don't mind some research. Just tell me name, location, department and I can get to work.

Edited June 7, 2020 by GregPersons

[billsfan1959]

Just now, GregPersons said:

 

You've brought up the idea of me "begging" for my life from you... 6 times?  Very normal behavior. 

 

What department? Care to share some of your accomplishments as an officer? 30+ years you said, right? Surely you must have done something you're proud of. I don't mind some research. Just tell me name, location, department and I can get to work.

 

I bring it up because they were your words and you refuse to answer a simple question. You said you were out there begging for your life with the police. That is a pretty dramatic description and a strong accusation. If it is, in fact true, then it really might give me a better understanding of the basis for your hostility. 

 

I already shared. Your turn. I think we would all agree it is a very simple question to answer.

[GregPersons]

13 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

I bring it up because they were your words and you refuse to answer a simple question. You said you were out there begging for your life with the police. That is a pretty dramatic description and a strong accusation. If it is, in fact true, then it really might give me a better understanding of the basis for your hostility. 

 

I already shared. Your turn. I think we would all agree it is a very simple question to answer.

 

You'll have to find the post and show it to me, because I don't remember what you're talking about specifically without context. You've shown yourself so be dishonest throughout so I have no reason to trust your warped recollection and insistence of what I said.

 

Especially after, how many attempts have you made now, at trying to deduce my identity? Now you pretend you weren't just spitting Yosemite Sam rage and you're very calm. Are you on any kind of medicine, ever been diagnosed for BPD? 

 

So there you have your answer. So hey — since we agree that police need more accountability — why don't you start us off by sharing your record with us. What's the harm? Not any personal details aside from your available public records.  Just point us to where you served, what department, last name, and any courts or offices you worked with where paperwork might be filed. 

 

You are a man of great wisdom and you have made this known. Why won't you share your work? It's directly relevant here. 

 

If I had a 30+ year career as a cop, and I was going on like you are, I think I'd be happy to share my contributions. Let's see them. Why not?

 

EDIT — Logging off for awhile, grandpa. I better see your badge number when you get around to pork-sausage typing up some dumbass response about choking protestors to death or whatever the *****.

 

Can't wait to return and see you've now determined I'm a Siamese Sasquatch from Mars. ***** delusional oaf.

 

Post your badge number and your BMI, while we're at it. Gonna go ahead and guess another reason you're so salty toward the protests is the overwhelming feeling of "guy with gout" energy you have. Something about you and everything in the way you've carried your character, I get the feeling you smell like a bowling alley full of NRA members. If you want to dispute the idea that you're fat & ugly, post a photo with the date.

 

You seem like a guy with an ex-wife and children who don't keep in touch. Anyway we're not gonna judge you by your lack of physical beauty. Gimme that badge number and we'll see the real value of your character.

Edited June 7, 2020 by GregPersons

[billsfan1959]

9 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

You'll have to find the post and show it to me, because I don't remember what you're talking about specifically without context. You've shown yourself so be dishonest throughout so I have no reason to trust your warped recollection and insistence of what I said.

 

20 hours ago, GregPersons said:

We're only out here begging for our lives, but people instead pull this. "Yeah black lives might matter, maybe, but blue lives definitely matter and deserve more respect." 

 

***** off if that's your way, you dishonorable *****. 

 

This is why you are a fraud. You tried to pass yourself off as part of the aggrieved we are talking about. simply to try to give more credibility to your insanely hateful rantings. You got called out and , rather than show a little shame and humility, you just became more hostile.

 

Very pathetic

 

9 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

You are a man of great wisdom

 

Thank you.

Edited June 7, 2020 by billsfan1959

[GregPersons]

3 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

This is why you are a fraud. You tried to pass yourself off as part of the aggrieved we are talking about. simply to try to give more credibility to your insanely hateful rantings. You got called out and , rather than show a little shame an dhumility, you just became more hostile.

 

Very pathetic

 

Oh my God. This is what you got your panties in a twist about? What are you so confused about? Which part of the sentence is giving you struggle? The "we"? 

 

Is it that I don't get to be part of the "we" or the "we" are not "begging for their lives"? Which part of this reality that isn't yours would you like to insist on having control over, Mr Police Officer?

 

Share your work.

 

And I've said repeatedly the "we" is "everybody." This is "Everybody vs Racists." This is an existential battle for freedom. This is a fight against oppression.

 

All efforts -- your life's work, it is turning out -- to try to suppress this fact are part of the problem.

 

Your insistence that I can't be the "we" or that the "we" is not "begging for our lives" is just showing your inability to receive sensory input that doesn't agree with your rotten maggot brain of make-believe.

 

This is real life. You did nothing to prevent the world from coming to this. And you were actually in real position to do so! For a long time! And now here you are, at the end, on a message board... trying to smugly tell me what fights count and which don'.t

 

You try to claim supremacy, but you have none. You try to take the high road, but can't help reveal your character. You try to claim the expert route, but you're too chicken to post any proof.

 

"We." What a gag. So this whole time it's because you couldn't conceive of yourself as part of the "we." Says everything.

 

 

Edited June 7, 2020 by GregPersons

[Teddy KGB]

11 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

You'll have to find the post and show it to me, because I don't remember what you're talking about specifically without context. You've shown yourself so be dishonest throughout so I have no reason to trust your warped recollection and insistence of what I said.

 

Especially after, how many attempts have you made now, at trying to deduce my identity? Now you pretend you weren't just spitting Yosemite Sam rage and you're very calm. Are you on any kind of medicine, ever been diagnosed for BPD? 

 

So there you have your answer. So hey — since we agree that police need more accountability — why don't you start us off by sharing your record with us. What's the harm? Not any personal details aside from your available public records.  Just point us to where you served, what department, last name, and any courts or offices you worked with where paperwork might be filed. 

 

You are a man of great wisdom and you have made this known. Why won't you share your work? It's directly relevant here. 

 

If I had a 30+ year career as a cop, and I was going on like you are, I think I'd be happy to share my contributions. Let's see them. Why not?

 

EDIT — Logging off for awhile, grandpa. I better see your badge number when you get around to pork-sausage typing up some dumbass response about choking protestors to death or whatever the *****.

 

Can't wait to return and see you've now determined I'm a Siamese Sasquatch from Mars. ***** delusional oaf.

 

Post your badge number and your BMI, while we're at it. Gonna go ahead and guess another reason you're so salty toward the protests is the overwhelming feeling of "guy with gout" energy you have. Something about you and everything in the way you've carried your character, I get the feeling you smell like a bowling alley full of NRA members.

 

You seem like a guy with an ex-wife and children who don't keep in touch. Just spitballing. Gimme that badge number and we'll see your real value.

We got a full fledged emotional breakdown on aisle 4.  

[billsfan1959]

1 minute ago, GregPersons said:

 

Oh my God. This is what you got your panties in a twist about? What are you so confused about? Which part of the sentence is giving you struggle? The "we"? 

 

Is it that I don't get to be part of the "we" or the "we" are not "begging for their lives"? Which part of this reality that isn't yours would you like to insist on having control over, Mr Police Officer?

 

Share your work.

 

No, you distinctly included yourself in the "we" that are "begging for their lives." I am simply asking you to give us some details. 

 

You keep deflecting and misdirecting. Just answer the question.

[GregPersons]

1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

No, you distinctly included yourself in the "we" that are "begging for their lives." I am simply asking you to give us some details. 

 

You keep deflecting and misdirecting. Just answer the question.

 

Read the rest of my post. Also, were you or were you not a police officer? Why is this suddenly impossible for you to answer now? 

 

If you were, why can't you prove it?

[billsfan1959]

3 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

We got a full fledged emotional breakdown on aisle 4.  

 

I probably should stop before he as an aneurysm and his head explodes...

[GregPersons]

Just now, billsfan1959 said:

 

I probably should stop before he as an aneurysm and his head explodes...

 

Are you a retired cop, or were you lying? Are you a retired cop, or were you lying?

Are you a retired cop, or were you lying?

If you're a cop with a career to be proud of, why won't you share your work?