jimshiz Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43688 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 The dehydration is being done in defiance of Magouirk's specific wishes, which she set down in a "living will" Hmm... Either the hospice is unaware of the living will, or something in that story isn't quite right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 Pretty soon a VERY LARGE chunk of the budget is going to be going to grandma and grandpa for Social Security and healthcare(medicare/medicaid, call it whatever). Get ready for huge tax increases and/or cuts in many programs actually called for in the Constitution (military, upkeep of infrastructure, etc). Here's the thing- if grandma and grandpa (or their families) can personally pay to keep the feeding tube in, fine by me. If however they want the GOVERNMENT to pay for keeping the feeding tube in, then I've got a problem with that. When did it become the governments responsibility to make sure people could live as long as possible? It's going to get messy before it gets better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimshiz Posted April 8, 2005 Author Share Posted April 8, 2005 Pretty soon a VERY LARGE chunk of the budget is going to be going to grandma and grandpa for Social Security and healthcare(medicare/medicaid, call it whatever). Get ready for huge tax increases and/or cuts in many programs actually called for in the Constitution (military, upkeep of infrastructure, etc). Here's the thing- if grandma and grandpa (or their families) can personally pay to keep the feeding tube in, fine by me. If however they want the GOVERNMENT to pay for keeping the feeding tube in, then I've got a problem with that. When did it become the governments responsibility to make sure people could live as long as possible? It's going to get messy before it gets better. 299750[/snapback] NOBODY said that the government was being required to pay for anything here. But, even if they are, you should NEVER decide a moral issue based on monetary cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 The dehydration is being done in defiance of Magouirk's specific wishes, which she set down in a "living will" Hmm... Either the hospice is unaware of the living will, or something in that story isn't quite right. 299749[/snapback] That's why you also need to give your power of attorney (or whatever it is called) to someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43688 299731[/snapback] Do "we" kill people? This, like the Schiavo case, is a family matter...perhaps one to be adjudicated in the courts to determine what the proper course of action is for a divided family to take, but a family matter nonetheless. "We" should stay the hell out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUBillsFan Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 Do "we" kill people? This, like the Schiavo case, is a family matter...perhaps one to be adjudicated in the courts to determine what the proper course of action is for a divided family to take, but a family matter nonetheless. "We" should stay the hell out of it. 300086[/snapback] One thing the judge that made the ruling is an elected offical that doesn't have a law degree. I read a story about a Dad who dumped scalding water on his 2 year old son becasuse he was "acting out"...I can't for the life of me figure out why he is under arrest it's a family issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Now THIS I find ridiculous! I can only hope there's more to the story that wasn't mentioned in the article, which is very possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 One thing the judge that made the ruling is an elected offical that doesn't have a law degree. I read a story about a Dad who dumped scalding water on his 2 year old son becasuse he was "acting out"...I can't for the life of me figure out why he is under arrest it's a family issue. 300156[/snapback] Dead on comparison, that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 NOBODY said that the government was being required to pay for anything here. But, even if they are, you should NEVER decide a moral issue based on monetary cost. 299758[/snapback] You absolutely should. What if it would take 1 million dollars to save someone's life for six months. Should the govt. pay for it? Not if my tax money is involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beausox Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Pretty soon a VERY LARGE chunk of the budget is going to be going to grandma and grandpa for Social Security and healthcare(medicare/medicaid, call it whatever). Get ready for huge tax increases and/or cuts in many programs actually called for in the Constitution (military, upkeep of infrastructure, etc). Here's the thing- if grandma and grandpa (or their families) can personally pay to keep the feeding tube in, fine by me. If however they want the GOVERNMENT to pay for keeping the feeding tube in, then I've got a problem with that. When did it become the governments responsibility to make sure people could live as long as possible? It's going to get messy before it gets better. 299750[/snapback] It should be the responsibility of the family first. Evidently, one family have the nations bottom line ahead of Gramma's. It is so patriotic of her to think of us. Of course we are fast going to give Gammorrah a good name. We have already legitimizeded Sodom. Is this a great country or what! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 No, we have a living will drawn up by an attorney and insure that our wishes are carried out by our family so we are not made into some political subject for debate. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffal0 Bill5 Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 One thing the judge that made the ruling is an elected offical that doesn't have a law degree. I read a story about a Dad who dumped scalding water on his 2 year old son becasuse he was "acting out"...I can't for the life of me figure out why he is under arrest it's a family issue. 300156[/snapback] How about a dad who is boinking his kids. Certainly a family matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffal0 Bill5 Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 You absolutely should. What if it would take 1 million dollars to save someone's life for six months. Should the govt. pay for it? Not if my tax money is involved. 300663[/snapback] That's a pretty expensive feeding tube. Detail for me a situation where it would cost 1 mil to keep a person alive for 6 mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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