Wiz Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 It is certainly too early to tell, but, so far, it looks as if TD made the right decision on getting Losman last year. Another thing, since when has being "cocky" been necessarily a bad thing in sports? Few complain about TO being "too cocky" or Shaq being "too cocky". Why is it a supposed problem ONLY with Losman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball'n Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 It is certainly too early to tell, but, so far, it looks as if TD made the right decision on getting Losman last year. Another thing, since when has being "cocky" been necessarily a bad thing in sports? Few complain about TO being "too cocky" or Shaq being "too cocky". Why is it a supposed problem ONLY with Losman? 277285[/snapback] Simple... Not proven himself in NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiz Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 He did prove himself in college. Jim Kelly was pretty cocky coming to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 This year's QB class is really ugly, I'll give TD that. Aaron Rodgers is the only future-starter in my opinion, and even he has his problems. Dont let the stats fool you, Alex Smith strikes me as Ty Detmer, Version 2.0. Great college QB in a wide open system who'll flop badly in the NFL when teams figure out his tells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Well I have concerns as Losman had one barely winning year in college. The top 2 guys coming out Smith was 12-0 this year. Cal with Rogers was ranked 9th at 10-2. These guys both have good skills and prove it with the bullets flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Well I have concerns as Losman had one barely winning year in college. The top 2 guys coming out Smith was 12-0 this year. Cal with Rogers was ranked 9th at 10-2. These guys both have good skills and prove it with the bullets flying. 277302[/snapback] It will be interesting to see if Losman really did have a horrible supporting cast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 It is certainly too early to tell, but, so far, it looks as if TD made the right decision on getting Losman last year. Another thing, since when has being "cocky" been necessarily a bad thing in sports? Few complain about TO being "too cocky" or Shaq being "too cocky". Why is it a supposed problem ONLY with Losman? 277285[/snapback] Where did you see this about Losman being rated as a better prospect than any QB in this years class? I was wondering about that a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Well I have concerns as Losman had one barely winning year in college. The top 2 guys coming out Smith was 12-0 this year. Cal with Rogers was ranked 9th at 10-2. These guys both have good skills and prove it with the bullets flying. Don't believe everything your friend tells you. Stuff that's news like Gibbs unretiring is fine, but predictions are worthless from the so-called "experts" or those "in-the-know." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 It is certainly too early to tell, but, so far, it looks as if TD made the right decision on getting Losman last year. Another thing, since when has being "cocky" been necessarily a bad thing in sports? Few complain about TO being "too cocky" or Shaq being "too cocky". Why is it a supposed problem ONLY with Losman? 277285[/snapback] Wrong, Scouts had Losman at 89 http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft04/.../player?id=7843 Smith at 97 http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft05/.../player?id=9077 and Rodgers at 98 http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft05/.../player?id=8743 Try again BTW 89 ranking gets you to be about the 30-35 best players in the draft. So saying that, Losman would be a early 2nd rounder this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Don't believe everything your friend tells you. Stuff that's news like Gibbs unretiring is fine, but predictions are worthless from the so-called "experts" or those "in-the-know." 277331[/snapback] My opinion on the other 2 QB's. The facts of records and winning ability is a fact and has nothing to do with inside info. I personally have my doubt on Losman. I for one hope he is great, I just don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 None of these ratings mean a damn thing. All based on College stats and subjective projection to the next level. Losman is completely unproven but is already under contract and working with his team. We'll see how the careers all pan out. I DON'T care about the 2005 QB's - Smith, Rogers, Fry etc. I care about reality, which is J.P Losman and Kelly Holcomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiz Posted March 17, 2005 Author Share Posted March 17, 2005 Where did you see this about Losman being rated as a better prospect than any QB in this years class? I was wondering about that a few weeks ago. 277327[/snapback] The guy who said that Losman rated out better than Smith, Rogers was John Murphy of Next Level Scouting, Inc. who was on NFL radio on Sirius. Yeah, Losman may have an "89" according to ESPN, no doubt the ultimate authority in the draft, but they probably removed some points for being "too cocky". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 The guy who said that Losman rated out better than Smith, Rogers was John Murphy of Next Level Scouting, Inc. who was on NFL radio on Sirius. Yeah, Losman may have an "89" according to ESPN, no doubt the ultimate authority in the draft, but they probably removed some points for being "too cocky". 277354[/snapback] Actually it was Scouts not ESPN. ESPN just buys their service. As far as what it means the ratings mean nothing and Mark is correct. It is on the field that matter and these two guys have shown it on the field and Losman has not IMHO. I will root for Losman and the Bills and hope he does well, I personally howeevr have been less then happy with what I have seen so far. And that is my opinion and I am entitled to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoker2Buffalo Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 I personally howeevr have been less then happy with what I have seen so far. 277357[/snapback] What exactly have you seen so far? Like 5 passes? The guys who made the decision to make him the starter have seen him throw hundred and hundreds of balls. It was not a blind faith decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 wait a second, is someone saying TD might actually know what the hell he's doing? nooooooooooo.... And this should shut everyone up who keeps saying we lost a 1st round pick for Losman - folks, we used it one year early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiz Posted March 17, 2005 Author Share Posted March 17, 2005 wait a second, is someone saying TD might actually know what the hell he's doing?nooooooooooo.... 277367[/snapback] Jay Foreman, another TD castoff, was just waived by the Texans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Jay Foreman, another TD castoff, was just waived by the Texans. 277405[/snapback] Yeah except he was the #1 tackler on that team every year he was there, until this year when he was hurt. And he still finished 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Simple...Not proven himself in NFL. 277288[/snapback] Wow. That really WAS simple. Hmmph, never saw a thread ended so succinctly. Nicely done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiz Posted March 17, 2005 Author Share Posted March 17, 2005 Yeah except he was the #1 tackler on that team every year he was there, until this year when he was hurt. And he still finished 3rd. 277434[/snapback] My bad. He's a salary cap casualty in their effort to clear space to trade for Pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP-era Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Wow. That really WAS simple. Hmmph, never saw a thread ended so succinctly. Nicely done. 277459[/snapback] Done masterfully.......OK........Now what do we talk about? I got it another OT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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