SouthTownBills51 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 I don't mean this as Losman the player, but as Losman as a rookie QB and Free agents might be turned off because they'd prefer to win now and not to come into a situation where they'd have to rely on a rookie qb? Personally I don't see the big deal, you come to a team because you wanna play and get paid reguardless on who the qb is..but do you think its a possibility, that its playing a role in they're decisions on what teams to go to? or is it all about the money? Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 You think FA's are attracted by Joey Harrington? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 I don't mean this as Losman the player, but as Losman as a rookie QB and Free agents might be turned off because they'd prefer to win now and not to come into a situation where they'd have to rely on a rookie qb? Personally I don't see the big deal, you come to a team because you wanna play and get paid reguardless on who the qb is..but do you think its a possibility, that its playing a role in they're decisions on what teams to go to? or is it all about the money? Thoughts? 273296[/snapback] The players know something you obviously don't: HE'S NOT A ROOKIE Any rookie QB has no prior training or practice with an NFL team prior to mini camp after the draft. Right now, JP is training every day at Ralph Wilson Stadium, while every rookie QB is nowhere near an NFL supervised schedule. No rookie QB has practiced with veterans or had a team's elder statesman comment on how he was lighting it up against one of the NFL's best Ds in practice last December. My answer is that no player is worried about playing with 2nd year veteran J.P. Losman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 You think FA's are attracted by Joey Harrington? 273299[/snapback] Jeff Garcia was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Jeff Garcia was 273301[/snapback] ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyBillsFan Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Id say 5% of the players out there care what team they are on. 95% care on what you put in their banks when they move the ink stick on the paper.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BackInDaDay Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 I don't mean this as Losman the player, but as Losman as a rookie QB and Free agents might be turned off because they'd prefer to win now and not to come into a situation where they'd have to rely on a rookie qb? Personally I don't see the big deal, you come to a team because you wanna play and get paid reguardless on who the qb is..but do you think its a possibility, that its playing a role in they're decisions on what teams to go to? or is it all about the money? Thoughts? 273296[/snapback] Which free agents are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 The players know something you obviously don't: HE'S NOT A ROOKIEAny rookie QB has no prior training or practice with an NFL team prior to mini camp after the draft. Right now, JP is training every day at Ralph Wilson Stadium, while every rookie QB is nowhere near an NFL supervised schedule. No rookie QB has practiced with veterans or had a team's elder statesman comment on how he was lighting it up against one of the NFL's best Ds in practice last December. My answer is that no player is worried about playing with 2nd year veteran J.P. Losman. 273300[/snapback] Of course not. They have all read this board and realize that there is NO friggin way JP will not be enshrined in Canton. They also are sure that the OL will matter little because JP, unlike Drew, can escape any and all pass rush, and make huge plays at will. If anything, JP attracts free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Of course not. They have all read this board and realize that there is NO friggin way JP will not be enshrined in Canton. They also are sure that the OL will matter little because JP, unlike Drew, can escape any and all pass rush, and make huge plays at will. If anything, JP attracts free agents. 273384[/snapback] Exactly! Which is why TD is free to ignore the OL for another three years - especially now that he's got "The Miracle Worker" Anne Sullivan, er excuse me, Jim McNally here to create a HOF OL out of peanut shells and candybar wrappers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv Levy Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Exactly! Which is why TD is free to ignore the OL for another three years - especially now that he's got "The Miracle Worker" Anne Sullivan, er excuse me, Jim McNally here to create a HOF OL out of peanut shells and candybar wrappers. 273456[/snapback] "Better get that O-Line in shape Boys!! That's an order!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 My God, how did we go 9-7 last season ? According to you guys, The Bills have the worst OL in NFL history and maybe the worst team of all time ? The heck with steroids, I want an investigation into this 9-7 lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canbuffan34 Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 I don't mean this as Losman the player, but as Losman as a rookie QB and Free agents might be turned off because they'd prefer to win now and not to come into a situation where they'd have to rely on a rookie qb? Personally I don't see the big deal, you come to a team because you wanna play and get paid reguardless on who the qb is..but do you think its a possibility, that its playing a role in they're decisions on what teams to go to? or is it all about the money? Thoughts? 273296[/snapback] I think what might attract FA players seeking the promised land is the fact that we currently hold the #2 defence in the league and the top ST unit! Not to mention a certain #21 in the backfield that I billieve will lead the league in rushing this season! Add to that JPL's mobility and he, unlike Drew can probably make effective short yardage throws and still has a cannon of an arm to get it downfield when called upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 >>>Add to that JPL's mobility and he, unlike Drew can probably make effective short yardage throws and still has a cannon of an arm to get it downfield when called upon.<<< You could have been describing RJ with the above. JP has proven zero at this point and would certainly not serve as a lure to offensive players. He made a remark to some little kid at a speech and got 3 pages of praise on this board which is fine, but hardly enough to make a UFA want to come to Buffalo. That said, players will as a rule follow the cash, thus making the question almost a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 My God, how did we go 9-7 last season ? According to you guys, The Bills have the worst OL in NFL history and maybe the worst team of all time ? The heck with steroids, I want an investigation into this 9-7 lie. 273592[/snapback] Our defense and special teams were the only reason we went 9-7. In fact, if we never put the offense on the field, we probably would've gone 14-2 at the very least. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltrane34 Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 For the last time he is not a rookie, and there are 10 other players on that side of the ball. If anything younger players would come for $$$$ and the chance for future wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Our defense and special teams were the only reason we went 9-7. In fact, if we never put the offense on the field, we probably would've gone 14-2 at the very least.CW 273604[/snapback] Willis McGahee - carries 284, yards 1128, avg. 4.0, 13 TD's in only 12 starts. Not bad for 3/4th of a season and no OL. The biggest problem with the O was the limited QB who now resides in Dallas. I agree that the OL still needs to improve and I'm being patient. But the outright hysteria being promoted here does not impress me. Many have their minds already made up concerning the impending failure of Losman, the OL and the inability of our Coaching staff to improve anything. I may be concerned around Labor day, prior to the opener, if problems are SHOWN to be real, through training camp and actual pre-season action. Declaring certain doom a FACT in mid-March is beyond assinine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Willis McGahee - carries 284, yards 1128, avg. 4.0, 13 TD's in only 12 starts. Not bad for 3/4th of a season and no OL. The biggest problem with the O was the limited QB who now resides in Dallas. I agree that the OL still needs to improve and I'm being patient. But the outright hysteria being promoted here does not impress me. Many have their minds already made up concerning the impending failure of Losman, the OL and the inability of our Coaching staff to improve anything. I may be concerned around Labor day, prior to the opener, if problems are SHOWN to be real, through training camp and actual pre-season action. Declaring certain doom a FACT in mid-March is beyond assinine. 273615[/snapback] Willis only started 11 games. Travis started the first 4, injured for 5th and started the 6th games of the year. Just helping you keep your facts straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Willis only started 11 games. Travis started the first 4, injured for 5th and started the 6th games of the year. Just helping you keep your facts straight. 273617[/snapback] Damn. Where's that middle finger when you need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Damn. Where's that middle finger when you need it. 273620[/snapback] What for. I was helping you out. Means Willis did better in even less starts. Although your credibility takes a hit, but that has never stopped you before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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