Matt_In_NH Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 After reading a few times that the Bills don't have the cap space for Cousins I took a look at overthecap.com and they project the cap out 3 years for all teams. I am no capologist and would appreciate people who are to weigh in on this. This shows what contracts on are the books through 2020 and projected cap space in each year. This is not a perfect way to look at things because no team even has 51 players listed and the cap will go up each year but I think it is a better indicator of cap space than just looking at this coming offseason because it shows your commitments over the next three years. Your ability to manipulate the cap either means cutting or trading players and taking a dead cap hit or "restructuring" which generally means trading future cap space to free up cap this year. The structure of the existing contracts also matters to manipulate the cap and that is not really addressed here.What this shows is that the Bills have the 7th most cap space when you look at a three year window and to me that means the teams ability to sign a guy like Cousins is totally realistic because they have flexibility on how to structure it. Now I know the Bills just may not be interested in signing him but it is absolutely something they could do if they chose. Of the teams with more cap space in the next three years only the Jets and Browns are known to be in the QB market. The Broncos will strap themselves pretty bad with a giant contract. I have not looked closely but I bet there is a chance they could be in a Saints like cap situation if they do it. Team 3 year cap space 49ers $381,497,878.00 Jets $361,711,492.00 Browns $337,167,846.00 Buccaneers $319,868,694.00 Titans $307,734,376.00 Colts $303,334,586.00 Bills $294,188,277.00 Texans $288,512,863.00 Bears $288,022,450.00 Rams $285,406,125.00 Bengals $266,161,073.00 Vikings $244,249,638.00 Cardinals $242,759,695.00 Redskins $240,904,062.00 Saints $240,675,999.00 Seahawks $235,370,413.00 Lions $233,523,610.00 Cowboys $231,094,753.00 Raiders $222,458,861.00 Packers $220,371,112.00 Falcons $217,728,730.00 Giants $217,159,650.00 Broncos $216,715,634.00 Patriots $216,429,190.00 Chargers $215,569,928.00 Panthers $190,744,416.00 Steelers $185,103,763.00 Ravens $183,649,329.00 Chiefs $183,535,343.00 Dolphins $171,022,443.00 Jaguars $121,918,172.00 Eagles $71,137,056.00 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, mattynh said: After reading a few times that the Bills don't have the cap space for Cousins I took a look at overthecap.com and they project the cap out 3 years for all teams. I am no capologist and would appreciate people who are to weigh in on this. This shows what contracts on are the books through 2020 and projected cap space in each year. This is not a perfect way to look at things because no team even has 51 players listed and the cap will go up each year but I think it is a better indicator of cap space than just looking at this coming offseason because it shows your commitments over the next three years. Your ability to manipulate the cap either means cutting or trading players and taking a dead cap hit or "restructuring" which generally means trading future cap space to free up cap this year. The structure of the existing contracts also matters to manipulate the cap and that is not really addressed here.What this shows is that the Bills have the 7th most cap space when you look at a three year window and to me that means the teams ability to sign a guy like Cousins is totally realistic because they have flexibility on how to structure it. Now I know the Bills just may not be interested in signing him but it is absolutely something they could do if they chose. Of the teams with more cap space in the next three years only the Jets and Browns are known to be in the QB market. The Broncos will strap themselves pretty bad with a giant contract. I have not looked closely but I bet there is a chance they could be in a Saints like cap situation if they do it. Team 3 year cap space 49ers $381,497,878.00 Jets $361,711,492.00 Browns $337,167,846.00 Buccaneers $319,868,694.00 Titans $307,734,376.00 Colts $303,334,586.00 Bills $294,188,277.00 Texans $288,512,863.00 Bears $288,022,450.00 Rams $285,406,125.00 Bengals $266,161,073.00 Vikings $244,249,638.00 Cardinals $242,759,695.00 Redskins $240,904,062.00 Saints $240,675,999.00 Seahawks $235,370,413.00 Lions $233,523,610.00 Cowboys $231,094,753.00 Raiders $222,458,861.00 Packers $220,371,112.00 Falcons $217,728,730.00 Giants $217,159,650.00 Broncos $216,715,634.00 Patriots $216,429,190.00 Chargers $215,569,928.00 Panthers $190,744,416.00 Steelers $185,103,763.00 Ravens $183,649,329.00 Chiefs $183,535,343.00 Dolphins $171,022,443.00 Jaguars $121,918,172.00 Eagles $71,137,056.00 I'd be curious to see if anyone has done a study of this formula to see if it holds up. Seems like too many variables involved year to year to use this as any type of guide for decision making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) No one knows what the cap will be in three years for any team. This is especially true with the CBA expiring after the 2020 season. Edited February 3, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 It blows my mind to even look at figures close to THREE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS! I’m old enough to remember when the players needed summer jobs to get them through to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) For the year ahead, looking at cap space makes sense. For two years ahead, it makes much less sense, as different teams will have different numbers of guys under contract for that length of time, and some will have most of their key guys already contracted while others will have very few. Three years out it tells you little or nothing. Look at who's under contract for the Bills (according to Spotrac) for 2020, three years out: Cordy Glenn. We don't know if he'll be on the team MIcah Hyde Jordan Poyer Tre'Davious White Patrick DiMarco Zay Jones Tyrod Taylor (or rather the amortized portion of his signing bonus) If Tyrod is on the team it will be because he has signed a new contract Dion Dawkins Matt Milano Nathan Peterman Tanner Vallejo Conor McDermott Shaq Lawson And that's it. How many of those guys will still be on the team? Who's the RB? The pass rusher? The OL outside of Cordy? Means nothing, though it's an interesting thought. Even two years out is really cloudy. Combining the three years makes it a pretty wacky measurement. The reason the Eagles have so little for the three years simply means they have a lot of their key guys already under contract. We have no idea who our key guys will be. Edited February 3, 2018 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 38 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: For the year ahead, looking at cap space makes sense. For two years ahead, it makes much less sense, as different teams will have different numbers of guys under contract for that length of time, and some will have most of their key guys already contracted while others will have very few. Three years out it tells you little or nothing. Look at who's under contract for the Bills (according to Spotrac) for 2020, three years out: Cordy Glenn. We don't know if he'll be on the team MIcah Hyde Jordan Poyer Tre'Davious White Patrick DiMarco Zay Jones Tyrod Taylor (or rather the amortized portion of his signing bonus) If Tyrod is on the team it will be because he has signed a new contract Dion Dawkins Matt Milano Nathan Peterman Tanner Vallejo Conor McDermott Shaq Lawson And that's it. How many of those guys will still be on the team? Who's the RB? The pass rusher? The OL outside of Cordy? Means nothing, though it's an interesting thought. Even two years out is really cloudy. Combining the three years makes it a pretty wacky measurement. The reason the Eagles have so little for the three years simply means they have a lot of their key guys already under contract. We have no idea who our key guys will be. You are right. It does tell you if your team has a lot of commitments over the coming years or not. And since the Bills do not, it tells me there will be a lot of new younger talent in the coming years vs a team that has more players under contract already. I am becoming a believer in having young hungry players over super high priced vets who lose a little motivation and start to think more about the long term affects the game has on their bodies. This regime has cleared the way for themselves to form the team they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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