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An Honest Assessment: Who are our keepers?


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Just now, Buffalo30 said:

They've played a half a year and some of them less...we can't even let our rookies develop anymore?  They've flashed a little as a unit and I think they can build on that over time.  They just need to be given that time...just like this coaching staff and front office...

No, I'm not criticizing anyone. If Milano is Preston Brown, well, that's a damn good find in the 5th round. Peterman also looks better than his draft position. But there's nothing that jumps out in this draft so far. I mean, Milano still hasn't beaten out journeyman Ramon Humber. Dawkins hadn't beaten out the likes of Jordan Mills. Peterman hasn't gone all Dak Prescott on us (not that he's had the chance).

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Just now, Buffalo30 said:

They are building for the future not this season man...I think it's pretty clear but apparently it's not...

Then why is your Rookie not starting?

 

Why is Davis, Holmes and Ducasse here?

 

Why wasnt Shady Dealt?

 

Why TT re-signed and pitched as the best chance to win?

 

Why is the coach always saying we want to win every week?

 

Why is there a bunch of OLD vets on this team? 

 

That is the SPIN from the new regime

 

 

Fact is they built this roster and though some of you want to excuse it they deserve blame for a roster with alot of self created holes, no cap space and not talented enough

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Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

No, I'm not criticizing anyone. If Milano is Preston Brown, well, that's a damn good find in the 5th round. Peterman also looks better than his draft position. But there's nothing that jumps out in this draft so far. I mean, Milano still hasn't beaten out journeyman Ramon Humber. Dawkins hadn't beaten out the likes of Jordan Mills. Peterman hasn't gone all Dak Prescott on us (not that he's had the chance).

So you agree they look promising and need more time to develop haha...

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Just now, Buffalo30 said:

So you agree they look promising and need more time to develop haha...

I think you may have some reading comprehension issues.  I said that if we had a draft do-over, the following players would go HIGHER than where we picked them:

-Milano

-Peterman

-T. White

 

And only Zay would go lower. Dawkins probably the same.

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Just now, MAJBobby said:

Then why is your Rookie not starting?

 

Why is Davis, Holmes and Ducasse here?

 

Why wasnt Shady Dealt?

 

Why TT re-signed and pitched as the best chance to win?

 

Why is the coach always saying we want to win every week?

 

Why is there a bunch of OLD vets on this team? 

 

That is the SPIN from the new regime

 

 

Fact is they built this roster and though some of you want to excuse it they deserve blame for a roster with alot of self created holes, no cap space and not talented enough

They said from the beginning they aren't tanking and they aren't...they are rebuilding but not tanking.  There's a difference.  They can be mildly competitive and keep stacking the team with their guys.  They have a lot of cap space and draft picks.  

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1 minute ago, Buffalo30 said:

They said from the beginning they aren't tanking and they aren't...they are rebuilding but not tanking.  There's a difference.  They can be mildly competitive and keep stacking the team with their guys.  They have a lot of cap space and draft picks.  

They have little cap space compared to the rest of the league and the UFAs they are going to have.

 

But hey blindly follow this regime that looks and sounds more like DJ 2.0 than anything else.

 

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4 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I think you may have some reading comprehension issues.  I said that if we had a draft do-over, the following players would go HIGHER than where we picked them:

-Milano

-Peterman

-T. White

 

And only Zay would go lower. Dawkins probably the same.

Okay but that makes it a bad class?  I said they have been promising and you listed three guys that would be picked higher...I think that's basically the same thing.  A few of those players can develop into everyday starters and graduate from their depth status.  Just need some more time...

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Just now, MAJBobby said:

They have little cap space compared to the rest of the league and the UFAs they are going to have.

 

But hey blindly follow this regime that looks and sounds more like DJ 2.0 than anything else.

 

Saying something over and over doesn't make it true. DJ never had a long term plan (or any plan really)

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Just now, MAJBobby said:

They have little cap space compared to the rest of the league and the UFAs they are going to have.

 

But hey blindly follow this regime that looks and sounds more like DJ 2.0 than anything else.

I am actually quite aware, we are preparing to purge the team of it's high salaries like we've been doing and replace them with young talent while continuing to open up salary cap space like they've been doing...They might get worse next year but after that I expect the young guys that fit their scheme to start winning us a lot of games.  Patience my friend

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3 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

Saying something over and over doesn't make it true. DJ never had a long term plan (or any plan really)

 

All this talk of Process, DNA, Character what you saw on the field was the same Soft Weak minded un talented Bills teams of the -past 17 years

 

And Absolutely McBeane deserves blame for that

2 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

I am actually quite aware, we are preparing to purge the team of it's high salaries like we've been doing and replace them with young talent while continuing to open up salary cap space like they've been doing...They might get worse next year but after that I expect the young guys that fit their scheme to start winning us a lot of games.  Patience my friend

so already setting up the excuses to be used for next year.  No Patience when I see bad football and bad football moves I will ABSOLUTELY hold them accountabel

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3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

All this talk of Process, DNA, Character what you saw on the field was the same Soft Weak minded un talented Bills teams of the -past 17 years

 

And Absolutely McBeane deserves blame for that

so already setting up the excuses to be used for next year.  No Patience when I see bad football and bad football moves I will ABSOLUTELY hold them accountabel

 

What would you be doing then?

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1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

 

All this talk of Process, DNA, Character what you saw on the field was the same Soft Weak minded un talented Bills teams of the -past 17 years

 

And Absolutely McBeane deserves blame for that

so already setting up the excuses to be used for next year.

You're mindset would've had Belichick fired before he had a chance to turn the Pats around.  They were 5-11 that first year under him and then luck struck him and Tom Brady fell from the sky and played while their bridge QB got hurt...Some of the best coaches in the league don't start out with immediate success.  It takes them time to implement their system and get the right players for their schemes.  

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Just now, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

What would you be doing then?

 

One is RUN your system, if you QB cant run it Dennison move to the other QB.  But at this point they made their bed with this roster.  I am not calling them out completely but I am also not accepting the spin, they had a huge role in the talent gut of this roster.  But will also hold them accountable in the offseason and this season

2 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

You're mindset would've had Belichick fired before he had a chance to turn the Pats around.  They were 5-11 that first year under him and then luck struck him and Tom Brady fell from the sky and played while their bridge QB got hurt...Some of the best coaches in the league don't start out with immediate success.  It takes them time to implement their system and get the right players for their schemes.  

OBVIOUSLY you cannot READ.,,...

 

 

Where DID I EVER say FIRE these guys?  Jesus just because I can acknowledge and place proper blame on them for this roster.  evidently some fans cannot.

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

Until the Bills find a true solid, if not a franchise QB, all of this analysis is BS.  The Bills have over 17 years had some relatively decent rosters but no real QB.  Hence they are stuck in mediocre land.

 This is the truth

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2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

One is RUN your system, if you QB cant run it Dennison move to the other QB.  But at this point they made their bed with this roster.  I am not calling them out completely but I am also not accepting the spin, they had a huge role in the talent gut of this roster.  But will also hold them accountable in the offseason and this season

 

 

I agree on the QB, but I feel that they are prepping for a very active offseason. I feel like this season was more of a "come what may" year. If we win, awesome! If not, we can build for next year. 

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3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Where DID I EVER say FIRE these guys?  Jesus just because I can acknowledge and place proper blame on them for this roster.  evidently some fans cannot.

 

No but I don't understand why them being bad is a surprise?  Everything that they've done lines up with what they have said...they want to win now as much as they can and rebuild for the future.  They replace guys that didn't trust the process and didn't fit the schemes.  They have more of that to do...they are rebuilding while not losing 15 games like the browns do...They have more wins then the browns have had in a few years combined and they have a lot of draft picks to add the most talent to what they want to do.  Let these old vets teach the young guys some things and then let the young guys loose and let them develop.  They gotta get another draft to keep flooding the roster with youth to replace the old vets.  It's all a part of the rebuilding process.

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3 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

I agree on the QB, but I feel that they are prepping for a very active offseason. I feel like this season was more of a "come what may" year. If we win, awesome! If not, we can build for next year. 

Yes it likely was, however there is no cap space, and spent two picks to get a WR those were assets to fill these holes.

 

that is my point I am not sure they have a clear direction either, one minute you can point to moves for next year and beyond then next thing you see moves that contradict that.

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