jms62 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) Huh? You really cant be that !@#$ing stupid to use "Stringing UP" and Doug Whaley in 2017 on an Internet post? Edited February 11, 2017 by jms62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 You really cant be that !@#$ing stupid to use "Stringing UP" and Doug Whaley in 2017? It's a common idiom. What does CURRENT YEAR have to do with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 It's a common idiom. What does CURRENT YEAR have to do with anything? Ok Chan.. Have a nice weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Ok Chan.. Have a nice weekend. Thanks for looking out I guess. I'll take my chances that ravenous lunatics won't think I hate black folks because of that sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Soon, sure. But not necessarily 1. Folks forget Dareus and JJ Watt had nearly identical first seasons. Which one would you rather have today? We'll see what happens. I won't say I love Shaq the player, because I don't, but if he puts up double digit sack numbers and is disruptive this year, I can hardly fault Whaley for picking him. Besides, there's more than enough ammo to string Doug up without resorting to "if Shaq sucks." I don't say too much about it, but I am still a big Dareus fan, though I know he deserves the abuse he gets in here... and I am not a fan of high-motor lunch-pailers roided to the max, not even Gronk. Common sense says to take Watt and I know I'd have to, but I wouldn't be happy about it. I'd rather have a MD who has fully realized his potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 The top 3 picks didn't see the field much. At most this draft's grade is incomplete. Let's see them healthy next year and make a conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 You really cant be that !@#$ing stupid to use "Stringing UP" and Doug Whaley in 2017 on an Internet post? Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I don't say too much about it, but I am still a big Dareus fan, though I know he deserves the abuse he gets in here... and I am not a fan of high-motor lunch-pailers roided to the max, not even Gronk. Common sense says to take Watt and I know I'd have to, but I wouldn't be happy about it. I'd rather have a MD who has fully realized his potential. I like Gronk because you can tell he's mostly genuine, even if he hams it up a bit for the cameras. Watt is the biggest phony of all time. He made Hard Knocks impossible to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 You really cant be that !@#$ing stupid to use "Stringing UP" and Doug Whaley in 2017 on an Internet post? Wow. What occurred to you? I took it as normal (if possibly misguided) Bills bashing, but....that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I like Gronk because you can tell he's mostly genuine, even if he hams it up a bit for the cameras. Watt is the biggest phony of all time. He made Hard Knocks impossible to watch. From that standpoint yeah, I definitely do like Gronk more than Watt, plus he's WNY. I can see Watt becoming the next Lyle Alzado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANK2 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 The tone of this article sounds like someone with an agenda. A. Washington had a great rookie year for an interior rookie lineman taken in the third round. Regardless of his size. Wake me up in two years from now. If Lawson gets 8-12 sacks a season, Ragland turns into an every down LB with Seymour and Washington improving on a solid rookie campaign, talk to me then. Clearly anyone who says anything negative about a team that hasnt made the playoffs in seventeen years has an agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) Wow. What occurred to you? I took it as normal (if possibly misguided) Bills bashing, but....that's about it. Apparently I'm allowed to use a common idiom when referring to a white guy but not a black guy. What's that thing called you when you treat people different based on their race again? Edited February 11, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Apparently I'm allowed to use a common idiom when referring to a white guy but not a black guy. What's that thing called you when you treat people different based on their race again? Oooooh, Uh, uh, wait......I know this. Ummm, starts with an r...... geez, I'll get back to you. I may have a rather different perspective, but I don't like putting up with that BS too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyphe23 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) I'm sick of the "Whaley is bad at his job crap." As a GM he has been able to identify scrap heap guys like Alexander, Zach Brown, Tyrod Taylor, Chris Hogan and Richie Incognito and bring them in on cheap deals and get great production out of them. Our offense has improved significantly and if Rex could have kept the defense performing at a high level we would have easily made the playoffs. Did he make a mistake drafting EJ? Sure but lots of GMs draft QBs that don't work out. There are about 20 teams out there that are still looking for one, you have to get lucky. If it were easy then Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, Drew Brees and Dak Prescott would have all been early first round picks. Edited February 11, 2017 by Hyphe23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Oooooh, Uh, uh, wait......I know this. Ummm, starts with an r...... geez, I'll get back to you. I may have a rather different perspective, but I don't like putting up with that BS too much. I hear ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) I'm sick of the "Whaley is bad at his job crap." As a GM he has been able to identify scrap heap guys like Alexander, Zach Brown, Tyrod Taylor, Chris Hogan and Richie Incognito and bring them in on cheap deals and get great production out of them. Our offense has improved significantly and if Rex could have kept the defense performing at a high level we would have easily made the playoffs. Did he make a mistake drafting EJ? Sure but lots of GMs draft QBs that don't work out. There are about 20 teams out there that are still looking for one, you have to get lucky. If it were easy then Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, Drew Brees and Dak Prescott would have all been early first round picks. Incognito was a year too late. Whaley also drafted the oft injured Watkins, Woods (gone), Kiko (not good), Goodwin (gone), PB (not good), Kujo (not good), Duke Williams (bad, cut), Meeks (bad, bout to be cut), Karlos (cut), Steward (cut), Dez Lewis (bad), Randell Johnson (bad), Seantrel (bad, pot addict), Cyril (cut), Cockrell (cut), Shaq (TBD, hurt), Ragland (TBD, hurt), Aldolphus (lazy), Cardale (call me in 4 years), JWill (bad), Listenbee (who?), Seymour (who?), Hopkins (cut), Gragg (gone). Don't forget to mention; Giving TT a contract a year too early for no reason. Overpaid and gave way too much guaranteed money for a terrible, hurt Chris Williams when Richie was waiting for a call to play for nothing. Going into a season with Kolb the walking IR as our starter/vet. Going into a season with EJ, Thad and Tuel as the guys. Doubling down on EeeeeeeeeeJJjjjjjjj with the Watkins trade. Having to get screamed out to sign Orton by his coach even though his boy sucked. The Dareus "smoke weed and be happy" clause All is not lollipops and fairy tales in OBD. We'll probably sign one player from the 2013 and 2014 drafts COMBINED, to second contracts. This dude sucks. Edited February 11, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) You really cant be that !@#$ing stupid to use "Stringing UP" and Doug Whaley in 2017 on an Internet post? You're a !@#$ing moron. Stirring up **** out of nothing. Complete and total ass hole. Edited February 11, 2017 by Gugny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I think Whaley is better than most, and it's easy to cherry pick using hindsight. Compare him to his peers and he stands up favorably. We had enough talent to make the playoffs last year, but we had a clown for a coach. (Though I wish him well in a booth somewhere, where I think he can do well.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyphe23 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Incognito was a year too late. Whaley also drafted the oft injured Watkins, Woods (gone), Kiko (not good), Goodwin (gone), PB (not good), Kujo (not good), Duke Williams (bad, cut), Meeks (bad, bout to be cut), Karlos (cut), Steward (cut), Dez Lewis (bad), Randell Johnson (bad), Seantrel (bad, pot addict), Cyril (cut), Cockrell (cut), Shaq (TBD, hurt), Ragland (TBD, hurt), Aldolphus (lazy), Cardale (call me in 4 years), JWill (bad), Listenbee (who?), Seymour (who?), Hopkins (cut), Gragg (gone). Don't forget to mention; Giving TT a contract a year too early for no reason. Overpaid and gave way too much guaranteed money for a terrible, hurt Chris Williams when Richie was waiting for a call to play for nothing. Going into a season with Kolb the walking IR as our starter/vet. Going into a season with EJ, Thad and Tuel as the guys. Doubling down on EeeeeeeeeeJJjjjjjjj with the Watkins trade. Having to get screamed out to sign Orton by his coach even though his boy sucked. The Dareus "smoke weed and be happy" clause All is not lollipops and fairy tales in OBD. We'll probably sign one player from the 2013 and 2014 drafts COMBINED, to second contracts. This dude sucks. You're mentioning 7th round picks as busts, most of those don't work out. Sammy is good but injured all the time, that's bad luck. Kiko was an all pro who he flipped for Shady who helped us lead the league in rushing. I also forgot to mention he got Jerry Hughes too. Talent wasn't the issue, injuries and bad coaching was the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 You're mentioning 7th round picks as busts, most of those don't work out. Sammy is good but injured all the time, that's bad luck. Kiko was an all pro who he flipped for Shady who helped us lead the league in rushing. I also forgot to mention he got Jerry Hughes too. Talent wasn't the issue, injuries and bad coaching was the issue. Not true. Drunk Chip traded us Shady, not the other way around. Hughes was solid. Again, 1 player over 2 drafts re-signed. 15 picks. 1 player. And we had to use 2 firsts and a 4th to select that guy. Brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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