NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 That's great Nasty Nate, but until it's clear where this $30 or $40M of cap space is coming from, just how are we going to pay 4 guys each $4-6M AND resign Glenn and Incognito/extend Gilmore/leave cap room for a QB in 2017? Overthecap has a nifty Salary Cap Calculator. You be the GM and cut, tender, resign, and extend players. You can look at the top-10 LTs and LGs and get a feeling for where Glenn and Incognito probably think they fall. 'Cog might possibly agree to a cap-friendly contract with a big fat signing bonus and a low 1st year salary if the Bills want to do it that way. Look at the FA and think who you want to keep. Cut who you want to cut, pre or post June 1, but remember the post June 1 cuts can't be used to sign FA. It's useful to look at the cap savings when cutting a player and think "OK, with the signing bonus and all, can I get a better player for those cap savings or not?" Have fun don't get hurt. Possible Restructure Candidates - Clay, Kyle, Wood ,McKelvin, Felton, Lawson. Carp, Urbik, A Will, Graham & Possibly McCoy. CUTS if not restructured - McKelvin, Graham, Felton, Carp, Urbik, Lawson & A Will CUTS - Mario , Harvin , Dixon Resign open cap space - Gilmore, Cordy & Cog and hopefully Bradham I believe if the Bills want to take the next step some of these Vets on our team have to give back some money or restructure especially Kyle, Wood & McKelvin these guys are our longest tenured Bills and are leaders on this team its time to lead by example and other players in that locker room will follow suit. I see it every yr players on other teams restructuring or flat out taking pay cuts for the betterment of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 Couple of comments on some of the preceding posts: I like the fellow's proposed cuts/restructures above but -- would absolutely cut Glass Goodwin and the Duke of Dumb. That is a meaningful amount of change too, as they have been around for a bit. In my view they add nothing (Goodwin literally, and the Duke makes some plays, but then cancels them out with dumb ones). Since they are zero loss (that is, they have no net value) there is no reason to pay more than minimum to replace them. Because our core is in place (agree with that part of a prior post), and we have decent to very good starters at most positions even with the cuts I propose, it is the time to add young players with physical skills or high achievement in college and develop them. Such players are picks (often rounds 4-7) or folks off practice squads, and they are cheap because they are not ready for prime time. The starters we have allow us the luxury of developing players,. A new concept for the Bills. For me, this is the only way to truly "build through the draft" (a concept so loved I have never heard it degraded since George Allen. It is like being for Mom and apple pie), This is so because (as the prior poster said) a team usually only gets one or two starters per draft. Our core being in place also helps make my point about Mo. Adding a few "mid-level guys" rather than a marquee guy with the cap space is a bad play in my opinion, We had to do that in the Jauron/Chan-eras because Ralph was cheap and we had a talent-starved roster. Think Langston Walker - high failure rate. Baseball style moneyball does not work in football in my view. Impact players win games, and I think mid-levels can be the road to ruin -- they are cheaper and available for a reason. Bringing in to many also sends the wrong message to the youngsters you are developing. I believe Mo Wilkerson has an effective failure rate of near zero barring injury. The only vets I would cut other than Mario either don't start or don't add meaningful value over the alternative (back-up). Vets that are cut for such reasons should not be replaced with like-salaried guys - everyone knows you must build through the draft! So you replace them with the young (cheap) folks you are developing. In Sanu's case, I feel we may well know the reason why he is available -- Bengals have much tied in position, and not enough balls to go around (plus I love his arm - he is so freaking multiple). I like the way Bradham hits, but I feel he needs a "show me" deal and probably knows it -- a year or two, if he performs he can get paid. Great last year, regressed this year in my view. Not time for a long-term lock down. If it requires that, I pass. Damon Harrison is not considered a mid-level guy. He is an elite run stuffer. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Possible Restructure Candidates - Clay, Kyle, Wood ,McKelvin, Felton, Lawson. Carp, Urbik, A Will, Graham & Possibly McCoy. CUTS if not restructured - McKelvin, Graham, Felton, Carp, Urbik, Lawson & A Will CUTS - Mario , Harvin , Dixon Resign open cap space - Gilmore, Cordy & Cog and hopefully Bradham I believe if the Bills want to take the next step some of these Vets on our team have to give back some money or restructure especially Kyle, Wood & McKelvin these guys are our longest tenured Bills and are leaders on this team its time to lead by example and other players in that locker room will follow suit. I see it every yr players on other teams restructuring or flat out taking pay cuts for the betterment of the team. Just curious, what players on other teams do you know of that have given back money for the betterment of the team? We're fans, they're players. It's their business. The teams will cut them in a heartbeat if their production falters or their cap space is needed for a signing the team puts a higher value on. When a team restructures, it either extends a player, or turns some future salary into bonus now. That's player-friendly, and helps the team clear current years cap space. The cost is lack of flexibility and future "dead money" if the team needs to move on. That's essentially what's screwing the Saints - they restructured and pushed money forward and now they're carrying $14M of "dead money" on the books. Restructuring Clay and a bunch of guys now might not be in the best long-term interests of the Bills. Harvin is a pending free agent. The Bills didn't pick up the 2nd year of his contract, and I would guess not likely to leaving us with a $2M cap hit for his prorated bonus. Mario and Dixon are gone, I'm sure. That's $14M to sign Incognito and Glenn. Not sure it's enough. Because our core is in place (agree with that part of a prior post), and we have decent to very good starters at most positions even with the cuts I propose, it is the time to add young players with physical skills or high achievement in college and develop them. Such players are picks (often rounds 4-7) or folks off practice squads, and they are cheap because they are not ready for prime time. The starters we have allow us the luxury of developing players,. Except that, if we cut Mario and Kyle Williams and (as the previous poster suggested) Lawson, McKelvin, Corey Graham, and A. Williams, just what is our core? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Covered in prior posts. Our offensive core for now is Sammy, Tyrod, Shady (for a while, then maybe Special K), Clay, and Glenn, plus Wood and Incognito while they are here. Defensive core: Mo Wilkerson (or pick another Mario replacement), Dareus, Hughes, Gilmore and Darby. Defense is talent-light after that, which is why we were romped all year. Keeping the old guys does not help that.Never suggested Aaron Williams be cut - count him as core if he can go. Core is definitely not: Lawson, McKelvin and Graham. Kyle is not core in this system, and he is old, hurt and expensive. Mario - we know the deal there. You have made my point - we need another core player on D if Mario goes! Whaley said as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Mo Wilk would be good, but I'm not sure we should overpay to get him especially with that injury in the final game. It looked bad from what I saw. Sanu I like, ditto with Jones. I really would want Von Miller but that ain't happening. He's a guy we should overpay to get. Do you really want to cut Corey? I'd rather draft a safety or sign one in FA and have him as depth. Then cut Leodis or trade him. why lose Leodis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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