TheBillsWillRiseAgain Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Oh sorry, 5 passes out of 7 plays instead of 6 passes. HUGE DIFFERENCE.
The Big Cat Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 On 11/20/2014 at 9:23 PM, TheBillsWillRiseAgain said: Oh sorry, 5 passes out of 7 plays instead of 6 passes. HUGE DIFFERENCE. You said 6 in a row. So, if you have to make **** up to make your case...well, then your case sucks.
TheBillsWillRiseAgain Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) The point is that Dixon was averaging over 6 yards per carry that game. Does it being 5 pass attempts in the redzone out of 7 plays instead of 6 straight passes make any difference when discussing whether or not they were bad play calls? Absolutely not. It sounds like your case is the one that sucks. Nevermind fans, commentators, mainstream media, and now players are all commenting on the bad play calling. YOU must be the one that has it right. Everyone else is just crazy. Edited November 20, 2014 by TheBillsWillRiseAgain
The Big Cat Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 On 11/20/2014 at 9:29 PM, TheBillsWillRiseAgain said: The point is that Dixon was averaging over 6 yards per carry that game. Does it being 5 pass attempts in the redzone out of 7 plays instead of 6 straight passes make any difference when discussing whether or not they were bad play calls? Absolutely not. It sounds like your case is the one that sucks. And yet, those two runs netted a single yard. So, take everything that happened to that point and forget about it.
TheBillsWillRiseAgain Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 How many yards did those 5 passes net?
The Big Cat Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 On 11/20/2014 at 9:32 PM, TheBillsWillRiseAgain said: How many yards did those 5 passes net? And again, two of them would have netted go-ahead TD's had the thrown been anywhere near where it was supposed to be. So, I'm sorry. What are you trying to convince me? That the those playcalls sucked?
TheBillsWillRiseAgain Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 On 11/20/2014 at 9:34 PM, The Big Cat said: And again, two of them would have netted go-ahead TD's had the thrown been anywhere near where it was supposed to be. So, I'm sorry. What are you trying to convince me? That the those playcalls sucked? It's a shame would haves don't count or we'd still be in the playoff race. And yeah, they were bad play calls. Anyone that doesn't take into consideration who their quarterback is (a career .500 QB) and what defense they're facing (#1 ranked against the pass) is an idiot and shouldn't be coaching an NFL team.
Solomon Grundy Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 On 11/20/2014 at 3:30 PM, l< j said: I don't like it. I agree with AW 100% and think Marrone isn't the right captain for this ship. But you don't take that to the press. Bad form. I don't care if it's the Rich Kotite Jets, you don't criticize the coaches in public as a player. kj This shows that players aren't fully on board with Marrone. Wonder how many others?
OhDozeBills Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Good for AW! I have no issue with this. There are certain things that should remain in the locker room, but when you're 5-5 and on your way to 15 straight years without making playoffs because of incompetent coaches who play not to lose, then by all means speak up.
The Big Cat Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 On 11/20/2014 at 9:40 PM, TheBillsWillRiseAgain said: It's a shame would haves don't count or we'd still be in the playoff race. And yeah, they were bad play calls. Anyone that doesn't take into consideration who their quarterback is (a career .500 QB) and what defense they're facing (#1 ranked against the pass) is an idiot and shouldn't be coaching an NFL team. Well, the #1 ranked pass defense let two receivers run wide open into the endzone. So, I'm not sure how that factors in. Also, this Orton fella, wasn't it only two games prior that he threw two passes (one on 4th and 20) the other down to the half yard line to set up a THIRD pass, the game winner? So...? That never happened? I'm confused. And if you're saying our coaches suck because our QB sucks...congrats, you just made my point for me.
FireChan Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 On 11/20/2014 at 9:40 PM, TheBillsWillRiseAgain said: It's a shame would haves don't count or we'd still be in the playoff race. And yeah, they were bad play calls. Anyone that doesn't take into consideration who their quarterback is (a career .500 QB) and what defense they're facing (#1 ranked against the pass) is an idiot and shouldn't be coaching an NFL team. Those were throws that Orton has made in the past, and the defense had no bearing on the plays as the recievers were open. Try again.
TheBillsWillRiseAgain Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 On 11/20/2014 at 9:49 PM, FireChan said: Those were throws that Orton has made in the past, and the defense had no bearing on the plays as the recievers were open. Try again. They were also throws that Orton has missed in the past. Plenty of times I'm sure.YOU try again.
The Big Cat Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 On 11/20/2014 at 9:57 PM, TheBillsWillRiseAgain said: They were also throws that Orton has missed in the past. Plenty of times I'm sure.YOU try again. Hahaha. Okay. So take every throw Orton has missed in the past and remove them from the playbook. And until you do that, until you account for how ****ty he is, you're a bad coach? Nice.
TheBillsWillRiseAgain Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 On 11/20/2014 at 9:49 PM, The Big Cat said: Well, the #1 ranked pass defense let two receivers run wide open into the endzone. So, I'm not sure how that factors in. Also, this Orton fella, wasn't it only two games prior that he threw two passes (one on 4th and 20) the other down to the half yard line to set up a THIRD pass, the game winner? So...? That never happened? I'm confused. And if you're saying our coaches suck because our QB sucks...congrats, you just made my point for me. How many potentially game-winning passes do you think he's missed in his career? Is the coach only supposed to take into consideration his last two games out of the dozens and dozens he's played in his career? He's not Tom Brady. He's not Peyton Manning. You don't put the entire game in his hands like that in the redzone when your running back is averaging 6.1 yards per carry in a game. They were bad calls. I love how people seem to think coaches aren't supposed to know the limitations of their players when calling plays. "Orton sucks! It's not Marrone's fault! How was Marrone supposed to know Orton wasn't Aaron Rodgers???"
The Big Cat Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 On 11/20/2014 at 10:01 PM, TheBillsWillRiseAgain said: How many potentially game-winning passes do you think he's missed in his career? Is the coach only supposed to take into consideration his last two games out of the dozens and dozens he's played in his career? He's not Tom Brady. He's not Peyton Manning. You don't put the entire game in his hands like that in the redzone when your running back is averaging 6.1 yards per carry in a game. They were bad calls. In the four games prior, two close games were put in his hands and he won them. So...yeah.
TheBillsWillRiseAgain Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 On 11/20/2014 at 10:02 PM, The Big Cat said: In the four games prior, two close games were put in his hands and he won them. So...yeah. How'd that work out for us in the past 2 games?
The Big Cat Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 So, again, unless the coaches do...what I'm not sure...because the QB is lousy, they suck? But mostly because the QB is lousy? On 11/20/2014 at 10:05 PM, TheBillsWillRiseAgain said: How'd that work out for us in the past 2 games? You have very incredible hindsight. It's right up there with your ability to make a point!
FireChan Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 On 11/20/2014 at 9:57 PM, TheBillsWillRiseAgain said: They were also throws that Orton has missed in the past. Plenty of times I'm sure.YOU try again. So what you're saying is the coaches need to call plays that our QB hasn't missed before? I think that eliminates every coach/QB combo in the NFL.
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 On 11/20/2014 at 10:02 PM, The Big Cat said: In the four games prior, two close games were put in his hands and he won them. So...yeah. The only reason those games were winnable was because of the defense. The offense sucked for most of those games. Blaming our defense for not shutting down teams for 60 minutes while our offense struggles to score a td is a joke. Defending Marrone/ Hackett is beyond crazy at this point. They are the sole reason we will miss the playoffs. But at least we are developing Kyle Orton.
FireChan Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 On 11/20/2014 at 10:19 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: The only reason those games were winnable was because of the defense. The offense sucked for most of those games. Blaming our defense for not shutting down teams for 60 minutes while our offense struggles to score a td is a joke. Defending Marrone/ Hackett is beyond crazy at this point. They are the sole reason we will miss the playoffs. But at least we are developing Kyle Orton. You do realize you're giving our defense credit, yet the opposing defenses no credit, right?
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