BuffOrange Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I thought this thread was bumped from 2001, but apparantly not... This is a joke, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Aren't all QB's a product of their system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Aren't all QB's a product of their system? 216933[/snapback] No. Here at the retard rodeo, QBs win and lose games all by themselves. Saddle up, pahdnah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HudsonValleyBillsFan Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Brady .. when he first comes into the league .. probably about 5 or 6 qbs Brady .. after 4 years under Charlies Weiss .. no one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 The Brady bashers are loco. The guy is like a friggin' robot- he's one of the most disciplined QBs I've ever seen, and seemingly can't be rattled by a mistake. 216885[/snapback] Yep. To all those calling him a "system" QB, what are the weaknesses in his game? The deep ball? Did you see his TD pass to Branch? Calling him a product of the system may have been valid after the first SB, but he has elevated his game since then. You can root against the guy and his team (it's very frustrating, but my duty as a Bills fan) without making foolish arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoak Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I guess you missed last years Superbowl. 32 of 48 for 354 yards and 3 touchdowns. 216894[/snapback] J Delhomme: 16/33, 324 yards, 3 TDs. And Vinitari won that game. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJsackedagain Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 But would you say better than Montana or Brady? (seriously) 216630[/snapback] Just look at who has more rings --------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoak Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Manning is a system QB too. Chump. Look: if a QB executes a "system" to near perfection, does that make him a bad QB? Montana was the perfect WCO QB- couldn't throw the deep ball but was very accurate. Does that tarnish his image? The Brady bashers are loco. The guy is like a friggin' robot- he's one of the most disciplined QBs I've ever seen, and seemingly can't be rattled by a mistake. 216885[/snapback] Right, cause Manning doesn't pretty much run his own offense. Manning IS the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 J Delhomme: 16/33, 324 yards, 3 TDs. And Vinitari won that game. Next. 216949[/snapback] Really? How'd he manage to get the team into position for his winning kick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Just look at who has more rings --------- 216954[/snapback] Montana wouldn't if he played his entire career in the AFC East. His noodle arm would be exposed in the elements, just like it was in the AFC Championship game at Orchard Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Just look at who has more rings --------- 216954[/snapback] You can't judge a QB by the number of rings they have. If that is the case, you need to keep Kelly and Marino out of the HOF to make room for Jeff Hoestettler and Mark Rypien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Brady is a system QB in one hell of a system. Put him on a sh------- team, he'd be an above average QB at best. Good field vision, quick release.....and thats about it. Without even thinking about it, I can name 6 QBs who I'd take over Brady (Manning, McNabb, Vick, Culpepper, Farve, McNair). I'll give props to the Patriots front office for putting together a great staff and giving them the players they needed to have one of the best systems in football, but, I'm not going to sit here and hear that Brady is one of the best QBs of all time. He's not even one of the best QBs THIS YEAR. Shoot, he's not even the best player on the Patriots. Dillon and Bruschi are much more valuable than Brady is. Want to think of something scary? Put McNabb or Culpepper on that team, see how he would do. I think most of the NFL is going to be in for a big suprise with both Coordinators leaving this offseason, Brady and the Pats are going to have a pretty average year in '05(8-8ish), unless they get some great coordinators in there. Bottom line is, success alone does not make a QB a great QB. Success makes a great team a great team. 216785[/snapback] I disagree. Only Manning is a better QB than Brady right now. Culpepper and McNair have been overrated their whole careers. Vick looks pretty, but he doesn't lead his team. Farve is done....he's not even top ten in the leauge any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJsackedagain Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I disagree. Only Manning is a better QB than Brady right now. Culpepper and McNair have been overrated their whole careers. Vick looks pretty, but he doesn't lead his team. Farve is done....he's not even top ten in the leauge any more. 216964[/snapback] Dude, Manning is SOOOOOO good he can't even get to a Super Bowl. Did you see him choke in Foxboro last weekend??? Manning is a good QB in the NFL, but he's not great yet. Brady's not the most talented QB in the NFL, but he does one thing those other guys haven't been able to do ----NOT CHOKE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 This post alone loses any semblance of credibility you may have had. Get some help. J Delhomme: 16/33, 324 yards, 3 TDs. And Vinitari won that game. Next. 216949[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col_forbin Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I'm counting on a 3-year nightmare to come to an end. GOD BLESS MORT! 216809[/snapback] Yep Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Sadly, some of my Children have chosen the wrong path in life. Thomas Brady chose to exchange his soul in order to gain worldy praise and glory. Wormwood now controls his soul. There is nothing further that can be done to save him. He will have his glory in this life, but he will no longer pass through the Pearly Gates. I weep for my Children who do such things, but alas free will has been given to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoak Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I'm not going to play a rigged game... how 'bout you list the games that Manning, Vick, etc have won by themselves first? What does that even mean? Did they throw the ball to themselves? 216863[/snapback] You obviously didn't watch ANY falcons highlights this year or 2002. Sunday, Dec. 1st, 2002. Vick vs. the Vikes. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap/NFL_20021201_ATL@MIN Nuff Said. Manning: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=241226011 AND they got the 2 pt conversion. Did I mention he broke the all time single season TD passing record with the last second winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 You obviously didn't watch ANY falcons highlights this year or 2002. Sunday, Dec. 1st, 2002. Vick vs. the Vikes. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap/NFL_20021201_ATL@MIN Nuff Said. Manning: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=241226011 AND they got the 2 pt conversion. 216978[/snapback] How many tackles did each make in those games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 How many tackles did each make in those games? 216981[/snapback] 20 each, wasn't it? Some of the best tackling I've ever seen by a QB. And that punt return that Manning took all the way - I couldn't believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 20 each, wasn't it? Some of the best tackling I've ever seen by a QB. And that punt return that Manning took all the way - I couldn't believe it. 216987[/snapback] Especially while blocking for himself. Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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