Survivor Caramoan : Fans vs. Favorites

[UConn James]

Season premiere tonight @ 8.

 

(BTW, where did ajzepp go? Miss ya, buddy!)

[Just Jack]

(BTW, where did ajzepp go? Miss ya, buddy!)

 

Last I heard he was seen in an alley with a blood pressure cuff, some empty saline IV bags, and screaming "The microbes are coming!"

[UConn James]

Looks like Brandon did a lot of growing up since his last jaunt. No more God talk. No more Mr. Hantz Redemption.

 

Hope =

Edited February 14, 2013 by UConn James

[WWVaBeach]

This should be good. How about being voted out 1st twice?

[Just Jack]

This should be good. How about being voted out 1st twice?

 

My sister has said that since there's been enough seasons, they should have a season of just people that were voted out 1st.

[Fan in San Diego]

My sister has said that since there's been enough seasons, they should have a season of just people that were voted out 1st.

 

That's a good idea. Except for the person who gets voted out first in that series. A misfit on misfit island.

[Just Jack]

Looks like Brandon did a lot of growing up since his last jaunt. No more God talk. No more Mr. Hantz Redemption.

 

Hope =

 

I feel sorry for Brandon after last nights episode. He's going to need some help. I won't be surprised if he does not show up for the reunion show.

 

And next week looks like they'll mix up the tribes. Still 14 people left and I don't think they have merged that large of a group.

[WWVaBeach]

I feel sorry for Brandon after last nights episode. He's going to need some help. I won't be surprised if he does not show up for the reunion show.

 

And next week looks like they'll mix up the tribes. Still 14 people left and I don't think they have merged that large of a group.

 

I told my wife that I think he was off his meds. I'm not sure how long mood stabilizers work after you stop taking them but I think we just found out.

[UConn James]

I told my wife that I think he was off his meds. I'm not sure how long mood stabilizers work after you stop taking them but I think we just found out.

 

I don't know if he was ever on any.

 

"Survivor" does not require people to be cut off from Rx medications, all the way from contact lens solution to cholesterol meds. We just do not see it because it's not really pertinent to the game, and there's also legal medical privacy issues. If Brandon were on anything for a mental condition, he would have absolutely been able to take it. Judging from his first season's emotions where he was crying every five minutes and some of his related stories and the complete meltdown in last night's show, as I wrote above, I don't think he's ever had that kind of help. As someone who's been in that arena myself, he really needs help. And that's pretty obvious. Probst's quip question of "whether it's in the Hantz blood" is astute. As with everything, it's genetic and experience/environmental. He can't blame the game for it, he can't blame Philip. Philip is a pedantic jackass, sure. You can't do things like that in public --- nevermind on national teevee --- and expect people in real life to not keep a wary eye on you or not want anything to do with you. How can you behave anything like that and keep friends or a job? You can't.

 

From my earlier comment, it really looks like Brandon's father and Russell got into his head prior to this season's taping. Whereas he was a weak personality tag-along/coattail-riding Jesus-boy last time, it was either ingrained in him or he ingrained himself to be the 180* from that. The extreme poles aren't good places to spend your life, tho.

[Just Jack]

From my earlier comment, it really looks like Brandon's father and Russell got into his head prior to this season's taping. Whereas he was a weak personality tag-along/coattail-riding Jesus-boy last time, it was either ingrained in him or he ingrained himself to be the 180* from that. The extreme poles aren't good places to spend your life, tho.

 

There's a tweet from Russell in this article...

 

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/-survivor--caramoan--recap--brandon-hantz-breaks-down-150954653.html?cache=clear

 

I'm just gonna guess he was not pleased with how it went down.

 

Brandon has his own Youtube channel...

 

[Philly McButterpants]

Let's all agree to keep the Hantz family off of television going forward. Russell was entertaining the first time out, but since then, they've proven to be hormone addled wackos.

[Just Jack]

Let's all agree to keep the Hantz family off of television going forward. Russell was entertaining the first time out, but since then, they've proven to be hormone addled wackos.

 

There's people out there that want to see a Russell/Brandon team on Amazing Race. Even more surprising, people that think Russell should be on Dancing With The Stars.

[Philly McButterpants]

 

 

There's people out there that want to see a Russell/Brandon team on Amazing Race. Even more surprising, people that think Russell should be on Dancing With The Stars.

 

Aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! The horror....

 

Actually, I would love for him to be on DWTS, since I don't watch that.

[Just Jack]

Survivor - France had a contest die....

 

http://news.yahoo.com/tv-doctor-kills-self-french-151859795.html

[Dante]

Survivor - France had a contest die....

 

http://news.yahoo.co...-151859795.html

Damn. The French suck at Survivor as well as everything else. Except for food of course.

[WWVaBeach]

Nice little blindside.

[ajzepp]

Nice little blindside.

 

It's pretty satisfying when one of the little people start thinking they can take over the game, only to wind up having to watch Probst snuff their flame. Long live the Specialist!!!! (and Kudos to that crying lady who actually DID something this time...)

Edited April 6, 2013 by ajzepp

[Just Jack]

Seriously? This whole "Dawn breaks down and may leave" bit that has been hyped since last week, took only 1.5 minutes of the episode, and it was over in the first 5 minutes of the show?

[Just Jack]

I like the overhead pool shot with the dirt trail following Philip though.

[Just Jack]

Not a 20% increase in your chances Jeff, 10%.

 

2/5 = 40% chance

2/4 = 50% chance

[Just Jack]

So, do they now hide both idols, one idol, or none? I think just one.

 

And my best guess right now for one of the final three, Cochran.

[UConn James]

I like the overhead pool shot with the dirt trail following Philip though.

 

How big of a dick move was that?!

 

The host guy was like, Take a shower first and then.... I'm sure the resort really appreciated having to clean that --- actually, probably having to drain the pool and start over with as much crap Philip had on him and the dirt contrail he left.

 

How scrambled was that tribal? Wow. They were just frantically whispering, trying to figure out which of thir own Seven to snuff out. Then followed Philip's advice to force the two idols out. Then, the ringleader is gone and it looks like the alliance just falls apart.

 

Well played, Malcom!

[Just Jack]

How scrambled was that tribal? Wow. They were just frantically whispering, trying to figure out which of thir own Seven to snuff out. Then followed Philip's advice to force the two idols out. Then, the ringleader is gone and it looks like the alliance just falls apart.

 

Well played, Malcom!

 

I was curious if they would hold onto them thinking who would vote for them.

 

Surprising was Eric voted Phillip also.

[We Come In Peace]

I was curious if they would hold onto them thinking who would vote for them.

 

Surprising was Eric voted Phillip also.

I don't think the Eric vote was all too surprising. That dude isn't even trying to play the strategic game, he's happily blissful in his ignorance which is infuriating.

 

Malcom's move at tribal was brilliant and more importantly FUN. Philip played his best game, I have to give him credit. But getting rid of him makes it a whole new game.

[ajzepp]

Not a 20% increase in your chances Jeff, 10%.

 

2/5 = 40% chance

2/4 = 50% chance

 

We may need to consult Holcomb's Arm and DC Tom on this one, but I think you're both wrong actually...isn't 50% a 25% increase over 40%? Just like 5 is one more than 4, but it's a 25% increase.

[Just Jack]

We may need to consult Holcomb's Arm and DC Tom on this one, but I think you're both wrong actually...isn't 50% a 25% increase over 40%? Just like 5 is one more than 4, but it's a 25% increase.

 

20%

5/5 is 100%

4/5 is 80%

[mrags]

Thank god that POS Phillip is gone. He was horrible. I literally just started watching within the last 2 years because if my fiancé an I can say I hated this guy more than anyone on this show. Was nice watching him lose control of the group at the end. Malcolm and th other tall dude are the new ring leaders now and will take the other guy and probably his little blonde girlfriend with then all the way to the end where she is systematically removed. And I think Malcolm wins it all because of the move he pulled last week by stealing an idol when he already had one. Well played by him dumb on the other guy. If it comes down to them at the end, that's what wins it IMO. Well played move.

[We Come In Peace]

Thank god that POS Phillip is gone. He was horrible. I literally just started watching within the last 2 years because if my fiancé an I can say I hated this guy more than anyone on this show. Was nice watching him lose control of the group at the end. Malcolm and th other tall dude are the new ring leaders now and will take the other guy and probably his little blonde girlfriend with then all the way to the end where she is systematically removed. And I think Malcolm wins it all because of the move he pulled last week by stealing an idol when he already had one. Well played by him dumb on the other guy. If it comes down to them at the end, that's what wins it IMO. Well played move.

I'm rooting for Malcom or Cochran to win it -- but Malcom, Eddie and Reynolds aren't out of the woods yet. All three are huge physical threats, they're still out numbered and there's only one immunity necklace to go around (not counting the possible 2 idols that could be back in play).

 

Reynolds is gone the first chance they get, dude is an unreal athlete compared to everyone else. Malcom is one of the best athletes to play the game but I have to think Reynolds had a huge edge coming in fresh whereas Malcom went right from his last survivor experience with little time to recover or get back in physical shape.

[Fan in San Diego]

I'm rooting for Malcom or Cochran to win it -- but Malcom, Eddie and Reynolds aren't out of the woods yet. All three are huge physical threats, they're still out numbered and there's only one immunity necklace to go around (not counting the possible 2 idols that could be back in play).

 

Reynolds is gone the first chance they get, dude is an unreal athlete compared to everyone else. Malcom is one of the best athletes to play the game but I have to think Reynolds had a huge edge coming in fresh whereas Malcom went right from his last survivor experience with little time to recover or get back in physical shape.

 

That was one of the best tribals ever ! Glad to see Phillip get voted out. What a douche bag that guy is.

Edited April 19, 2013 by Fan in San Diego

[ajzepp]

I can't believe all the Phillip hate! I prefer to keep the more interesting people around as long as possible, personally. Phillip had a plan in place for them to vote out Andrea...I don't know why he changed his mind and said to just vote the way they had planned. That wasn't smart.

 

I also can't believe how pathetic that lady was when she lost her damn teeth...a grown woman bawling like a child, threatening to leave the game if she can't get them back...wtf?

 

I like the game Cochran is playing...would love to see him win it all.

 

I've been watching a couple older seasons that I had never seen, and it's just so pathetic how many juries have voted for the less deserving player simply out of spite. It's a common theme with the show and it's really a shame that they can't have more respect for the game. Dissing my girl Stephanie in the final of Survivor: Guatamala was just pathetic. That being said, the challenges that season were just incredible. They have really lightened up the show since some of those past seasons. Used to be it really WAS about survival, but nowadays they have it a bit easier. Some of those Guatamala challenges had half the tribe vomiting and struggling to recover...now THAT'S how it should be!

Edited April 19, 2013 by ajzepp

[mrags]

that being said, the challenges that season were just incredible. They have really lightened up the show since some of those past seasons. Used to be it really WAS about survival, but nowadays they have it a bit easier. Some of those Guatamala challenges had half the tribe vomiting and struggling to recover...now THAT'S how it should be!

Thats why I hate on Phillip. Because I believe Survivor should be about hard challenges and "Surviving" in harsh conditions with limited food. Instead it's more about the petty BS and drama games that these fools play. So I will always hope that a supreme physical person wins, or the person that is just fearless and gobbles down anything in challenges, or outsmarts the others in challenges. Cochran, Malcolm, Reynold. These are the no BS, no drama guys that I want to win. Cochran isn't physically dominating but he plays a good game and doesn't really cause drama.

 

That chick that Phillip Didnt get along with that he had voted off a few weeks ago was in this list. No respect for drama queens.

[We Come In Peace]

I can't believe all the Phillip hate! I prefer to keep the more interesting people around as long as possible, personally. Phillip had a plan in place for them to vote out Andrea...I don't know why he changed his mind and said to just vote the way they had planned. That wasn't smart.

 

I also can't believe how pathetic that lady was when she lost her damn teeth...a grown woman balling like a child, threatening to leave the game if she can't get them back...wtf?

 

I like the game Cochran is playing...would love to see him win it all.

 

I've been watching a couple older seasons that I had never seen, and it's just so pathetic how many juries have voted for the less deserving player simply out of spite. It's a common theme with the show and it's really a shame that they can't have more respect for the game. Dissing my girl Stephanie in the final of Survivor: Guatamala was just pathetic. That being said, the challenges that season were just incredible. They have really lightened up the show since some of those past seasons. Used to be it really WAS about survival, but nowadays they have it a bit easier. Some of those Guatamala challenges had half the tribe vomiting and struggling to recover...now THAT'S how it should be!

I tend to agree with you on Philip. The man was a clown on both seasons, but this time he was actually playing the game. His man-crush on Boston Rob was too much, but he had control of that game up until Malcom pulled that brilliant move at tribal. He should have been smart enough to get rid of Andrea at that point, but Philip's hubris blinded him. He was so offended by what Malcolm said at tribal it threw him completely off his strategic game. Which is another reason why that move by Malcolm was so brilliant.

 

If Malcolm's smart and Andrea isn't too paranoid, he'd team up with her, Cochran, the brunette who's name I forget and Eddie. Get rid of Reynolds (blindside) and Erik (he's too much of a physical threat and too unstable strategically to use) asap. Sheri would be the next vote and that would be an easy one, leaving them with 6. Then Malcolm has a good shot at winning out immunity wise, or he could flip on his own, taking out Eddie/Andrea, then Dawn. Final three of Cochran, Malcolm, and the Brunette who's a physical threat but has coasted strategically so far and won't get jury votes.

[ajzepp]

I tend to agree with you on Philip. The man was a clown on both seasons, but this time he was actually playing the game. His man-crush on Boston Rob was too much, but he had control of that game up until Malcom pulled that brilliant move at tribal. He should have been smart enough to get rid of Andrea at that point, but Philip's hubris blinded him. He was so offended by what Malcolm said at tribal it threw him completely off his strategic game. Which is another reason why that move by Malcolm was so brilliant.

 

If Malcolm's smart and Andrea isn't too paranoid, he'd team up with her, Cochran, the brunette who's name I forget and Eddie. Get rid of Reynolds (blindside) and Erik (he's too much of a physical threat and too unstable strategically to use) asap. Sheri would be the next vote and that would be an easy one, leaving them with 6. Then Malcolm has a good shot at winning out immunity wise, or he could flip on his own, taking out Eddie/Andrea, then Dawn. Final three of Cochran, Malcolm, and the Brunette who's a physical threat but has coasted strategically so far and won't get jury votes.

 

I'm really interested to see how they regroup...most of them made fun of Phillip behind his back, but the one thing he did give them was organization and a figurehead. Now that they are out from under his "direction", it'll be interesting to see how they re-align. I also think the next puzzle challenge that involves Dawn should be of a Rorschach inkblot just to see what happens.

[Just Jack]

Finale tonight....

 

My guess at final three is Cochran, Dawn and Sherrie.

 

But....

 

I could see Cochran trying to bring in Erik instead of one of the women because who would vote for him to win?

 

Eddie (if I was playing) I would not want with me in final 3 because he would be a good choice for the win.

[Just Jack]

Final tribal : Note to Sherrie - don't mention you run succesful businesses. Oops, too late.

[UConn James]

If Cochran doesn't win this unanimously....

[Just Jack]

So I missed part of the reunion show, did they mention why they did not have all the contestants like previous years? Personally I liked it better this way.

[WWVaBeach]

So I missed part of the reunion show, did they mention why they did not have all the contestants like previous years? Personally I liked it better this way.

 

They were there just not on stage. With the exception of Brenda who will be having a kid any day. Rudy Bosch needs not be allowed top speak in public.

[Dante]

They were there just not on stage. With the exception of Brenda who will be having a kid any day. Rudy Bosch needs not be allowed top speak in public.

What a train wreck! Anyway, right person won. Considering the past women floaters that have won I was terrified emotionally over the top Dawn was somehow going to curry sympathy with the judges. Thank goodness that didn't happen. One question I have isn't there a second place prize? Both the women got no votes so does that mean they split?

Also the clue for next season "Blood Vs Water" looks like some family vs something or other. Do you think it's two or three members of a few families on one tribe to start and random on the other?

[tennesseeboy]

I only saw a couple of shows, but that Cochran guy seemed to be on top of his game throughout. I couldn't imagine how any one being fair could have voted for the other two. From the questions the jury was asking I think it was pretty much a foregone conclusion.