Coach Tuesday Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Nah, he just dropped passes that could have extended drives which could have ended in points. Plenty of blame to go around.. 194883[/snapback] Correct me if I'm wrong, but of the passes Moulds dropped, most if not all were on 3rd down, no? NONE of those passes Moulds dropped would have given the Bills a first down, unless he also broke some tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Correct me if I'm wrong, but of the passes Moulds dropped, most if not all were on 3rd down, no? NONE of those passes Moulds dropped would have given the Bills a first down, unless he also broke some tackles. 194943[/snapback] Which tells me our veteran WR ran a route that was shorter than it should have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Which tells me our veteran WR ran a route that was shorter than it should have been. 194946[/snapback] Or that Bledsoe locked onto Moulds, when he had Evans open on a curl route 12 yds downfield, or that he simply threw it too early? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Or that Bledsoe locked onto Moulds, when he had Evans open on a curl route 12 yds downfield, or that he simply threw it too early? 194949[/snapback] I'm not defending Drew Bledsoe at all. I never wanted him in Buffalo to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I'm not defending Drew Bledsoe at all. I never wanted him in Buffalo to begin with. 194950[/snapback] Come on - that's no fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Come on - that's no fun! 194951[/snapback] Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 As far as I remember Moulds only dropped 1 ball Sunday. In the 1st qrtr on 3rd/long he was on a crossing route with Chad Scott in his shirt and had he caught it he would have been tackled immediately for about a 7rd gain, but would have been short of the 1st and the Bills would have punted anyways. Drew tried again to hit him on the same route later on but Scott was there again and got a hand on that one. So Moulds had one single drop that cost the Bills a grand total of about 7yrds of meaningless field position..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Plunkett is not in the HOF, nor is Kenny Stabler. With the exception of Brady (TBD) and possibly Favre (Reggie White), each HOF QB on that list is (or likely will be) joined by MULTIPLE teammates in Canton. 194874[/snapback] OK I was right on Plunkett then and I messed up with Stabler. So you've got 11 guys that aren't in the hall leading their teams to the title. Of course many of them have lots of HOF teammates, but I'll be you if you went and looked at all of them, the numbers for a DE wouldn't be as high as they are for a quarterback. There might only be 5 DE's that have been on SB winning teams in the HOF, as compared to 27 QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneida Lake Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 As far as I remember Moulds only dropped 1 ball Sunday.In the 1st qrtr on 3rd/long he was on a crossing route with Chad Scott in his shirt and had he caught it he would have been tackled immediately for about a 7rd gain, but would have been short of the 1st and the Bills would have punted anyways. Drew tried again to hit him on the same route later on but Scott was there again and got a hand on that one. So Moulds had one single drop that cost the Bills a grand total of about 7yrds of meaningless field position..... 194968[/snapback] Moulds dropped 3. And he runs his patterns half speed. His completions are for 8 yards or less. He gets no separation. Ever watch a NE game? There have been plenty in prime time this year. Doesn't it frost you just a bit that the announcers are always saying..."Look at the time Brady has.. Wow look at that protection.. and so on? And his receivers are always open by 5 yards, and they catch EVERTHING!!! This receiving corps is a joke. A joke. Moulds has stopped jumping for balls, diving for balls and runs secondary patterns half heartedly. Reed as a slot receiver is pathetic. And with Campbell and Euhus out there is NO tight end option. Evans has been good as a rookie, he still has a lot to learn. I'm excited about him. You want to spend money in the off season? This is and the Offensive line are the areas to look. Our receivers, as a group, are sub par. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 As far as I remember Moulds only dropped 1 ball Sunday.In the 1st qrtr on 3rd/long he was on a crossing route with Chad Scott in his shirt and had he caught it he would have been tackled immediately for about a 7rd gain, but would have been short of the 1st and the Bills would have punted anyways. Drew tried again to hit him on the same route later on but Scott was there again and got a hand on that one. So Moulds had one single drop that cost the Bills a grand total of about 7yrds of meaningless field position..... 194968[/snapback] I saw the same thing, but I think both were drops by Moulds. Still, the main point is that he was wearing Scott as the second uniform, and none would have resulted in a first down. To Darin's point, the ball was thrown well before he would have had a chance to cross the imaginary yellow line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Moulds dropped 3. And he runs his patterns half speed. His completions are for 8 yards or less. He gets no separation. Ever watch a NE game? There have been plenty in prime time this year. Doesn't it frost you just a bit that the announcers are always saying..."Look at the time Brady has.. Wow look at that protection.. and so on? And his receivers are always open by 5 yards, and they catch EVERTHING!!! This receiving corps is a joke. A joke. Moulds has stopped jumping for balls, diving for balls and runs secondary patterns half heartedly. Reed as a slot receiver is pathetic. And with Campbell and Euhus out there is NO tight end option. Evans has been good as a rookie, he still has a lot to learn. I'm excited about him. You want to spend money in the off season? This is and the Offensive line are the areas to look. Our receivers, as a group, are sub par. 195001[/snapback] This post is just bizarre... actually, it's just plain wrong. Moulds gets no separation? Why is he still double-covered most of the time, then? He doesn't jump for balls? What about his acrobatic catch against the Steelers (on a horribly thrown ball by Bledsoe that was only 4 yards past the line of scrimage)? Incidentally, he then broke 2 1/2 tackles and came up just short of the first down. Luckily, it wasn't a third-down play. This receiving corps is FAR from a joke, actually. Yes they need a slot receiver and a consistent TE. They also need a QB who can buy time in the pocket and throw accurate passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 the ball was thrown well before he would have had a chance to cross the imaginary yellow line. 195011[/snapback] You mean that line's not real ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneida Lake Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 This post is just bizarre... actually, it's just plain wrong. Moulds gets no separation? Why is he still double-covered most of the time, then? He doesn't jump for balls? What about his acrobatic catch against the Steelers (on a horribly thrown ball by Bledsoe that was only 4 yards past the line of scrimage)? Incidentally, he then broke 2 1/2 tackles and came up just short of the first down. Luckily, it wasn't a third-down play. This receiving corps is FAR from a joke, actually. Yes they need a slot receiver and a consistent TE. They also need a QB who can buy time in the pocket and throw accurate passes. 195014[/snapback] Moulds is living on his rep. He clearly has you sucked in. You don't seem to remember the key drops. You just admitted that they need a slot receiver and a TE. That's 50% of a QBs options on passing plays. You think that and 11 penalties might have had an impact on Sunday? Nah.... the QB sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Moulds is living on his rep. He clearly has you sucked in. You don't seem to remember the key drops. 195019[/snapback] From one of Drews biggest supporters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneida Lake Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 From one of Drews biggest supporters! 195026[/snapback] And your point? Nah, why start making one now, it would be so out of character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Moulds is living on his rep. He clearly has you sucked in. You don't seem to remember the key drops. You just admitted that they need a slot receiver and a TE. That's 50% of a QBs options on passing plays. You think that and 11 penalties might have had an impact on Sunday? Nah.... the QB sucks. 195019[/snapback] What are the "key drops"? That's already been debunked - those plays would not have resulted in first downs. The QB does suck - look at the efficiency stats I posted earlier. I understand you want new receivers, a new TE, a new o-line, etc., but meanwhile other offenses manage to get by with just a decent QB and one or two options in the passing game (the Chiefs, the Falcons, the Jets, the Eagles, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(Oneida Lake @ Jan 5 2005, 09:53 PM)Moulds is living on his rep. He clearly has you sucked in. You don't seem to remember the key drops. From one of Drews biggest supporters! And your point? Nah, why start making one now, it would be so out of character. 195031[/snapback] True irony if you consider the source. You could replace Moulds with Bledsoe in your original post and it would make alot more sense. Moulds is double teamed every play. Hes an unbeleivable blocker who hustles his ass off every play. He has a tremendous work ethic and might be the best athlete on the Bills. He has done everything to remain loyal to the Bills and he has kicked ass for us ever since his second year. But in your eyes its not Drew- its Eric. BTW as far as character- you are oozing with it. Very classy referring to JP as JP Loserman. I might add very mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneida Lake Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 What are the "key drops"? That's already been debunked - those plays would not have resulted in first downs. The QB does suck - look at the efficiency stats I posted earlier. I understand you want new receivers, a new TE, a new o-line, etc., but meanwhile other offenses manage to get by with just a decent QB and one or two options in the passing game (the Chiefs, the Falcons, the Jets, the Eagles, etc.) 195035[/snapback] The Chiefs? Come again? The Falcons. Vick runs for 900 yards this year. Let's see how the Eagles do without TO. The Jets have Curtis Martin. McGahee is NOT Curtis Martin..yet. Switching the QB isn't going to solve all the inefficiencies in this team. You'd think a "coach" would know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 It's obvious that The Crusaders are taking over TSW. EVERY post must be about Drew because everything is his fault. Give it a rest Crusaders. It's getting old. CW 193800[/snapback] Same on "the other board"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 True irony if you consider the source. You could replace Moulds with Bledsoe in your original post and it would make alot more sense. Moulds is double teamed every play. Hes an unbeleivable blocker who hustles his ass off every play. He has a tremendous work ethic and might be the best athlete on the Bills. He has done everything to remain loyal to the Bills and he has kicked ass for us ever since his second year. But in your eyes its not Drew- its Eric. BTW as far as character- you are oozing with it. Very classy referring to JP as JP Loserman. I might add very mature. 195039[/snapback] Pete you should know not to bother with the Drew apologists, they can't provide stats, they just blindly support him with no basis or facts. It's fruitless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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