Dexter is baaaaack

[Clippers of Nfl]

The last season had a small drop in amusement for me. It was too religious for my taste. Anyway it was my favorite show for a long time.

 

Now Deb found out. I'm curious to see how she will react to her new knowledge of her bro. Accept? Reject? Approve? Apply? Manipulate?

 

Let's hope its a good season!!!

[Clippers of Nfl]

Loved first episode.

 

What did everyone else think?

[Buftex]

Definitely an improvement...but I hope the last scene, where Dex walks in, and Deb is about to confront him about "everything" was dream. If not, it underscores my biggest gripe about this show...they just can't stand to sustain suspense very long...could be interesting...in the books, Deb is aware, much earlier on, of Dexters' "secret" life.

[ajzepp]

Definitely an improvement...but I hope the last scene, where Dex walks in, and Deb is about to confront him about "everything" was dream. If not, it underscores my biggest gripe about this show...they just can't stand to sustain suspense very long...could be interesting...in the books, Deb is aware, much earlier on, of Dexters' "secret" life.

 

Just based on the scenes from upcoming episodes, it sure looks like it's not a dream.

 

I haven't watched this show except for the first season. A friend is wanting to watch this current season, though, so I went ahead and watched with her tonight. Is this guy a damn cannibal now?? I remember the basic premise of the show, but I don't remember him being a cannibal lol...the opening sequence was pretty damn disgusting!

 

Also, if anyone feels up to giving me a quick primer on what I've missed since the first season, that would be very much appreciated.

[Clippers of Nfl]

Hes not a cannibal. That's his "normal" method. Lays someone on a table and stabs them in the heart.

As for the seasons, going based on my bad memory, without googling or anything, here is my take:

 

In most seasons at least one person finds out he is a serial killer and several people suspect Dexter of being weird.

There was a cop. Doakes. Damn that was a good season. Eventually the officer got chained to a cabin. The suspense was pretty high.

There was a fire starter. Hot female chick that accepted and encouraged Dexter to kill.

There was another cop. Hispanic tall dude that forced Dexter to train him in the art of serial killing. The hispanic cop didnt follow the "code" and needed to be killed. Pretty much.

There was another female young adult who forced Dexter to train her too.

There was another serial killer that discovered Dexter was also a serial killer. This killer killed Dexter's wife. My favorite season by far. The bad guy in this season really terrified his family. Jailed his kids to the house, beat them up, etc. There was a scene in the show where the wife of the bad guy thought Dexter was having sex with her under aged daughter. The mom was so terrified of her bad husband that she told Dexter, "look i dont care what you're doing with my daughter, just dont tell my husband" She didnt care that her daughter could be getting raped. She just didnt want her husband to know.

 

What makes the show good for me is not really the killing. He just kills bad people. There is always some suspense with him avoiding getting captured. Lots of times he "almost" gets caught. There are other stories too. Like his sister having a new boyfriend each season.

 

I kinda left my run down on the show pretty vague, just in case you went back to watch the previous seasons.

 

I'm sure I had a bunch of typos. Drinking a couple of cold ones. Hot day in La today.

 

Oh and trust me last season can be skipped. Very churchy. Bad church guy gets killed. I know at least one tbd dude that will not agree with my assessment.

[apuszczalowski]

Just based on the scenes from upcoming episodes, it sure looks like it's not a dream.

 

I haven't watched this show except for the first season. A friend is wanting to watch this current season, though, so I went ahead and watched with her tonight. Is this guy a damn cannibal now?? I remember the basic premise of the show, but I don't remember him being a cannibal lol...the opening sequence was pretty damn disgusting!

 

Also, if anyone feels up to giving me a quick primer on what I've missed since the first season, that would be very much appreciated.

Are you talking about the theme at the begining where he is getting ready and making breakfast? I think its supposed to make your mind wander and think he is cutting up a body

Otherwise, I don't think I have ever seen a part where it appears he is a cannibal

 

As for Last season, it wasn't the best (in my opinion the best was the season with John Lithgow playing the Trinity killer), but it wasn't worth skipping. It was actually very good, and the religious aspects of it I think made it good with Dexter questioning religious beliefs. Also plenty of whack jobs do what they do based off of their religious beliefs)

 

I also like the idea that now Debra knows whats going on with him, its much better then her just believing that catching Dexter in the church killing Tom Hanks son was a one off thing. And from the previews I have read for the next 2 weeks shows, it wasn't a dream......

[Buftex]

For me, Dexter's peak was the tension between he and Doaks. After Doaks was offed it has been progressively weaker with each season. Lithgow managed to add some intrigue (compared to the other guest "creep" of the season) but even that lacked subtlty. I always like the show okay, but I always think they could execute the story much better. After the second season, the writing, IMO, started to become a lot more sloppy...the whole concept of the show is pretty far-fetched to begin with, but somehow, in the first two seasons, they managed to pull it off...now, there are always huge gaps in the story, most everyone (except Dexter) is remarkably stupid for "smart" people...and the endless double agent stuff with LaGuerrta just gets annoying.

 

How the hell would Dexter manage to pull off setting up a "kill room" in an airport "lost baggage" claim room? That was beyond plausible.

[apuszczalowski]

For me, Dexter's peak was the tension between he and Doaks. After Doaks was offed it has been progressively weaker with each season. Lithgow managed to add some intrigue (compared to the other guest "creep" of the season) but even that lacked subtlty. I always like the show okay, but I always think they could execute the story much better. After the second season, the writing, IMO, started to become a lot more sloppy...the whole concept of the show is pretty far-fetched to begin with, but somehow, in the first two seasons, they managed to pull it off...now, there are always huge gaps in the story, most everyone (except Dexter) is remarkably stupid for "smart" people...and the endless double agent stuff with LaGuerrta just gets annoying.

 

How the hell would Dexter manage to pull off setting up a "kill room" in an airport "lost baggage" claim room? That was beyond plausible.

But what really goes into a kill room for him? He just needs a table and a bunch of plastic. The room had a sign on it saying its only open certain times during the day

[Clippers of Nfl]

For me, Dexter's peak was the tension between he and Doaks. After Doaks was offed it has been progressively weaker with each season. Lithgow managed to add some intrigue (compared to the other guest "creep" of the season) but even that lacked subtlty. I always like the show okay, but I always think they could execute the story much better. After the second season, the writing, IMO, started to become a lot more sloppy...the whole concept of the show is pretty far-fetched to begin with, but somehow, in the first two seasons, they managed to pull it off...now, there are always huge gaps in the story, most everyone (except Dexter) is remarkably stupid for "smart" people...and the endless double agent stuff with LaGuerrta just gets annoying.

 

How the hell would Dexter manage to pull off setting up a "kill room" in an airport "lost baggage" claim room? That was beyond plausible.

You just kind of have to understand that it's just a show. Of course he couldnt do that. You can kill someone anywhere, but the time it would take to set up a kill room... etc. etc.

How about just carting off a dead man out of the airport without medical gear? Just going to the parking lot with a dead man like it was grocery shopping. Lol.

[HopsGuy]

I'm glad the writers blew up the show with Deb discovering the truth about Dexter. Also, I'm okay with her going from seeing Dexter kill Travis Marshall (DDK) and getting to him being a serial killer in one episode. I don't think we needed a multi-episode arc for her to catch up with the audience.

 

Things from 701:

• La Guerta finds the blood slide but then takes it from Masuka's lab destroying the chain of evidence. How will she prove Doakes' innocence now?
  
• The Russian mobster that Dex offed and dumped in the Gulf Stream had taken a bracelet or something off of the stripper. I assume that thing is somewhere in the North Atlantic now. I'm thinking that was an important piece that will make Ray Stevenson come to South Florida.
  
• Batista & Quinn now appear to be comic relief.
  
• RIP Mike Anderson - we hardly knew ya.
  
• Louis is going to be a problem.
  

AJ - as far as catching up, Clippers did a decent job, though a few were slightly off. You can go to the Wikipedia page and read through stuff. I actually liked season 5 with Julia Stiles. She was the only person that knew Dexter's secret and lived. Season 6 was the weakest but at least it got us here. I'm looking forward to this season and the final season next year. Dexter is an interesting character and now he has to explain to the person who has known him the longest that his entire existence has been a lie.

[Clippers of Nfl]

I'm glad the writers blew up the show with Deb discovering the truth about Dexter. Also, I'm okay with her going from seeing Dexter kill Travis Marshall (DDK) and getting to him being a serial killer in one episode. I don't think we needed a multi-episode arc for her to catch up with the audience.

 

Things from 701:

• La Guerta finds the blood slide but then takes it from Masuka's lab destroying the chain of evidence. How will she prove Doakes' innocence now?
  
• The Russian mobster that Dex offed and dumped in the Gulf Stream had taken a bracelet or something off of the stripper. I assume that thing is somewhere in the North Atlantic now. I'm thinking that was an important piece that will make Ray Stevenson come to South Florida.
  
• Batista & Quinn now appear to be comic relief.
  
• RIP Mike Anderson - we hardly knew ya.
  
• Louis is going to be a problem.
  

AJ - as far as catching up, Clippers did a decent job, though a few were slightly off. You can go to the Wikipedia page and read through stuff. I actually liked season 5 with Julia Stiles. She was the only person that knew Dexter's secret and lived. Season 6 was the weakest but at least it got us here. I'm looking forward to this season and the final season next year. Dexter is an interesting character and now he has to explain to the person who has known him the longest that his entire existence has been a lie.

Based on the preview of the season, she will try to contain his killing. I dont think he will kill Deb, even if she hounds him. I believe he may kill laguarta.

 

Looks like a very good upcoming season.

[HopsGuy]

Based on the preview of the season, she will try to contain his killing. I dont think he will kill Deb, even if she hounds him. I believe he may kill laguarta.

 

Looks like a very good upcoming season.

 

Rumor:

 

 

There was some talk around the intarwebs that 2-3 main characters would be killed in the first few episodes. Mike Anderson was killed by Viktor the Russian in the opener - so far, so good. I could see Dexter explaining to Deb that Harry taught him the code and that the first rule was "Don't Get Caught". La Guerta has been both good and bad to Deb over the years, so who knows if she'd back Dex killing off Maria. I haven't read the books but I believe she didn't make it out of the 2nd novel.

 

Then again, I was completely duped by the Breaking Bad rumor.

 

 

 

[ajzepp]

Are you talking about the theme at the begining where he is getting ready and making breakfast? I think its supposed to make your mind wander and think he is cutting up a body

Otherwise, I don't think I have ever seen a part where it appears he is a cannibal

 

 

 

Yep, that's the part. I could swear that he was cutting up a hand and throwing it in the frying pan. It had all the palm lines on it and everything. It must have just been suggestive, as you said...I'm glad to know he's not eating people, cause I can only take so much of that lol.

 

 

'Clippers: Thanks for the feedback

 

 

AJ - as far as catching up, Clippers did a decent job, though a few were slightly off. You can go to the Wikipedia page and read through stuff. I actually liked season 5 with Julia Stiles. She was the only person that knew Dexter's secret and lived. Season 6 was the weakest but at least it got us here. I'm looking forward to this season and the final season next year. Dexter is an interesting character and now he has to explain to the person who has known him the longest that his entire existence has been a lie.

 

Good call, I forgot about Wikipedia...thanks man

[Buftex]

I'm glad the writers blew up the show with Deb discovering the truth about Dexter. Also, I'm okay with her going from seeing Dexter kill Travis Marshall (DDK) and getting to him being a serial killer in one episode. I don't think we needed a multi-episode arc for her to catch up with the audience.

 

I think this is likely in response to my comments. Honestly, I may have given up on "Dexter" after last season, but the final two minutes of the season (Deb walking in on Dexter's kill) was one of the few times they didn't telegraph exactly what would happen, and added a very interesting layer to the show, that it has been lacking for a while. I just think the writers have great ideas sometimes, but they just can't stand to sustain suspense very long. I think it would be far more interesting if Deb slowly peels away the layers of Dexter's lies, and finally realizes he isn't a "one time killer"...I fear that would be a more interesting story-arc than Deb trying to "rehabilitate" Dexter, the serial killer.

[Clippers of Nfl]

I think this is likely in response to my comments. Honestly, I may have given up on "Dexter" after last season, but the final two minutes of the season (Deb walking in on Dexter's kill) was one of the few times they didn't telegraph exactly what would happen, and added a very interesting layer to the show, that it has been lacking for a while. I just think the writers have great ideas sometimes, but they just can't stand to sustain suspense very long. I think it would be far more interesting if Deb slowly peels away the layers of Dexter's lies, and finally realizes he isn't a "one time killer"...I fear that would be a more interesting story-arc than Deb trying to "rehabilitate" Dexter, the serial killer.

2 avenues to choose from.

Rehab dexter or slowly learn the truth.

 

They went with rehabilating him. Hopefully they chose the right direction.

 

Ps. Discovering the kill slides in his apartment would have been nice to see in the show. Her reaction, etc.

Just her waiting in the living room was waaaaaaaaayyyyyyy too fast. They need some help from the soap operas.

 

As a kid I watched Days of our lives for one summer. When a "bad guy" was discovered..... Dude the whole week, 5 full episodes of the discovery and confrontation. It was the best!!!

[HopsGuy]

I think this is likely in response to my comments. Honestly, I may have given up on "Dexter" after last season, but the final two minutes of the season (Deb walking in on Dexter's kill) was one of the few times they didn't telegraph exactly what would happen, and added a very interesting layer to the show, that it has been lacking for a while. I just think the writers have great ideas sometimes, but they just can't stand to sustain suspense very long. I think it would be far more interesting if Deb slowly peels away the layers of Dexter's lies, and finally realizes he isn't a "one time killer"...I fear that would be a more interesting story-arc than Deb trying to "rehabilitate" Dexter, the serial killer.

 

Yours and other fans around the web - nothing personal.

 

If the writers could have pulled off a 3-episode arc where Deb puts together the details from the first 6 seasons, it might have been interesting. I just don't trust them to do that given what we saw for most of season 6. Knowing what we do, watching Deb catch up would have been a bunch of "OMG" faces from Deb as she pieced together ITK, BHB, & "who killed Jordan Chase? - oh and the guy in the warehouse with Dan the Dentist was covered in plastic, too" Pushing us to "Deb knows - let's go from here" is more expedient for them and they probably went down the lane of rolling it slowly and weren't able to work it out to a satisfactory result. I'm just guessing.

 

For me, the most positive thing to come out of S7E01 was that Jennifer Carpenter's overly emotional acting worked very well in the opening scene. Never thought that would happen. Also good to see Jason Gedrick after "Luck" was cancelled. I really liked that show.

 

Watched it again and the stripper that Quinn interviews (the one that says in perfect English "I don't speak English") also had one of those bracelets on just like the girl in the car. Is Titus Pullo going to have to go deep-sea diving?

[Captain Hindsight]

Got convinced by a friend to watch this.. starting the first episode now...

[Clippers of Nfl]

Got convinced by a friend to watch this.. starting the first episode now...

So what did you think. So far so good for me. 2 overall good episodes.

[Hazed and Amuzed]

Dexters been the highlight of my Sundays recently

[HopsGuy]

Very solid 2nd episode. The Dexter/Deb scenes were great. I really liked the way the scenes were shot with Dexter in the light confessing to Deb who was sitting in the dark as if they were in an interrogation room. Her reaction to his revelation that he has a "Dark Passenger" was funny: "You gave it a name?" As she tries to point out that he's making himself to be a victim and that those people in the box are victims he goes all John Doe in "Se7en" about the pedophile choir leader, the psychiatrist who drove women to suicide, etc. Later when she's making spaghetti, the sauce was almost a glowing red as Dexter recounts how he feels when the Dark Passenger takes over starting with blood.

 

The Louis vs. Dexter drama ratcheted up with Dex finding out that Louis sent him the ITK arm and stumbling onto Louis' vlog. He found out how Louis had cancelled his credit cards and moved his boss at the software company out by framing him with some child porn. Louis seemed scared when Dex pushes him to the wall and demands he get out of his life. But later Louis takes a beer from Dexter's fridge and tousles Harrison's hair. That gets him on the wrong end of an M-99 hypodermic. But since he really doesn't meet the code, Dex calls Deb and makes it look like her brand of "Serial Killers Anonymous" is working. I think it was just a ruse so that she'll get off his back.

 

Joey Quinn is talking to strippers. That's not going to be good for anyone. This whole Ukrainian mob thing is boring.

 

It's a good thing that Jamie watches Harrison now because Sonya never would have put up with this.

 

LaGuerta is now convinced that Doakes was not the BHB but by screwing up the chain of evidence, how does she get the case re-opened?

 

Dex thinks he can get some insight from spree killer Wayne Randall. But the guy just wanted some Sunshine and Frosty Swirl. Now we get to meet Hanna, Robin to Wayne's Batman.

 

Heard a theory on how Dexter is a re-telling of Pinocchio with Dexter the doll (serial killer) trying to be a boy (regular person with feelings). On the Wrap-Up podcast, James Remar (Harry is Jiminy Cricket, I guess?) compared Dexter to Hamlet. I supposed this works.