PDaDdy Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) NEXT!!! Come on Buddy lets spend big and get this defense fixed and make it a STRENGTH....."Git er done!!!" I can't believe I just said that. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/16/raiders-tell-wimbley-hes-being-released/ Edited March 16, 2012 by PDaDdy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 NEXT!!! Come on Buddy lets spend big and get this defense fixed and make it a STRENGTH....."Git er done!!!" I can't believe I just said that. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/16/raiders-tell-wimbley-hes-being-released/ I'm going to go ahead and put a lid on the Kam Wimb man love that's been going on here. A good buddy of mine, life long Raiders fan, spent about a half decade in Buffalo/Rochester, adopted Bills as his second favorite team. He's a legitimate Raiders first, Bills second fan. Follows the Bills, "gets" the Bills, roots for the Bills, except when they play Oakland. He had this to say about Wimbley: "He'd definitely help. He's a good rusher and he's decent in pass rcoverage. Only has one good move when blitzing though. Does this dip move and once defenses figured it out he was shut down. He'd definitely help Buffalo though." *** ***Note, this conversation happened prior to the Williams signing. He went on to say: "He's above average but not worth the coin he's going to get. Heard he's a team cancer, too." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 not a fit now - we got big money committed at DE and merriman/kelsey/carrington/batten on the depth chart as well.......got no prob with a top pick being committed there, but the money can be better spent upgrading another position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 not a fit now - we got big money committed at DE and merriman/kelsey/carrington/batten on the depth chart as well.......got no prob with a top pick being committed there, but the money can be better spent upgrading another position Suffice to say, he represents some of the DE FA talent left now. And with such a significant drop off after MW, you better believe this guy's going to get paid WAY more than he's worth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PDaDdy Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) I'm going to go ahead and put a lid on the Kam Wimb man love that's been going on here. A good buddy of mine, life long Raiders fan, spent about a half decade in Buffalo/Rochester, adopted Bills as his second favorite team. He's a legitimate Raiders first, Bills second fan. Follows the Bills, "gets" the Bills, roots for the Bills, except when they play Oakland. He had this to say about Wimbley: "He'd definitely help. He's a good rusher and he's decent in pass rcoverage. Only has one good move when blitzing though. Does this dip move and once defenses figured it out he was shut down. He'd definitely help Buffalo though." *** ***Note, this conversation happened prior to the Williams signing. He went on to say: "He's above average but not worth the coin he's going to get. Heard he's a team cancer, too." I don't know that anyone can put a "lid" on anything but he is a player. We are looking for good talent on this team. We need an OLB. If he can provide his "one move" as a pass rusher in the 4-3 and get us 5 sacks. I'll take it! I haven't followed the guys career what so ever and I'm playing a little fantasy football here but it seems like the guy would be a welcome addition. Partially because it would make my prediction come true that we get Mario Williams and Kamerion Wimbley. LOL. I started a thread regarding whether we had the cap space to get both. We got Mario! If we get Wimbley I'm 2 for 2. As for being a team cancer? I haven't heard that but if he is that makes him less attractive. Was it him or was it the team environment? Suffice to say, he represents some of the DE FA talent left now. And with such a significant drop off after MW, you better believe this guy's going to get paid WAY more than he's worth... I'm sure he will command some money but we generally don't over pay. Personally I don't think we over paid for Mario Williams but many national pundits think we did. We aren't known for over paying and if he is looking to get over paid it won't happen here that is for sure. What I AM thinking is that we have a little bit of a buzz literally and figuratively. We could sell the guy on what we are building here and maybe get him at fair market value. I think we have the cap space given the real numbers I have heard regarding Mario Williams' hit against this year's cap and we have at least $10 million bare minimum we could cut from this roster to get a difference maker. Dream big! Edited March 16, 2012 by PDaDdy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I don't know that anyone can put a "lid" on anything but he is a player. We are looking for good talent on this team. We need an OLB. If he can provide his "one move" as a pass rusher in the 4-3 and get us 5 sacks. I'll take it! I haven't followed the guys career what so ever and I'm playing a little fantasy football here but it seems like the guy would be a welcome addition. Partially because it would make my prediction come true that we get Mario Williams and Kamerion Wimbley. LOL. I started a thread regarding whether we had the cap space to get both. We got Mario! If we get Wimbley I'm 2 for 2. As for being a team cancer? I haven't heard that but if he is that makes him less attractive. Was it him or was it the team environment? barnett is going to see tons of snaps. shep is going to see tons of snaps. how many snaps does that leave for a 3rd LB? about 1/3 by my count. we'll be in nickel and dime plenty. i don't see the point in spending a ton of money on a 3rd LB when you can't offer him every down time. draft pick to push morrison makes sense, but a big ticket free agent makes none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 barnett is going to see tons of snaps. shep is going to see tons of snaps. how many snaps does that leave for a 3rd LB? about 1/3 by my count. we'll be in nickel and dime plenty. i don't see the point in spending a ton of money on a 3rd LB when you can't offer him every down time. draft pick to push morrison makes sense, but a big ticket free agent makes none. Actually that is a good point! We DO play nickel a lot but perhaps we might not need to play as much with a healthy front line bolstered by Mario. Wimbley can drop back and cover well I have heard. That could allow us to stay in our base defense more, support the run which is our biggest problem on defense second only to our inability to rush the passer which he also does well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Actually that is a good point! We DO play nickel a lot but perhaps we might not need to play as much with a healthy front line bolstered by Mario. Wimbley can drop back and cover well I have heard. That could allow us to stay in our base defense more, support the run which is our biggest problem on defense second only to our inability to rush the passer which he also does well. not gonna pay him all that money to cover - he's a pass rusher, that's what he does well, round peg, square hole spend a top pick there, can always use the depth and someone to build with going forward, but don't need to reach in free agency any more then the draft.........let's get levitre/byrd/jackson locked up, add some depth at LT, money can be spent in a lot of different ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMario Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I believe he was making 11 million in Oakland and they cut him because he wasn't willing to take a pay cut. The only way we would be able to get him is if he took a paycut which if he didn't for Oakland he won't for us. That being said id love to have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 not gonna pay him all that money to cover - he's a pass rusher, that's what he does well, round peg, square hole spend a top pick there, can always use the depth and someone to build with going forward, but don't need to reach in free agency any more then the draft.........let's get levitre/byrd/jackson locked up, add some depth at LT, money can be spent in a lot of different ways We need more than depth at LT. We need a guy that can start, play on an island and stay healthy. For our needs I think he is a fit. He's a LB it's not like we won't ever send 5 pass rushers. His ability to cover is a bonus not what he would do full time. It just gives us options out of what would be our base defense is all I'm saying. I believe he was making 11 million in Oakland and they cut him because he wasn't willing to take a pay cut. The only way we would be able to get him is if he took a paycut which if he didn't for Oakland he won't for us. That being said id love to have him. We still have cap space even considering signing rookies and re-uping guys. We could cut at least $11 million in salaries with the guys we need to get rid of already. We've got 3-4 DEs and 3-4 LBs that will be out of place in the 4-3. I think we could easily make room and keep the promising young talent we are developing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overseas Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Anyone think he could come here, or was Mario it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 it would be cool but i dont think we have the $ for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Anyone think he could come here, or was Mario it? ARGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan in n.h Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 maybe he would come here because of our new d-line and be willing to accept a lower amount??? one can dream,cant they> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overseas Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 ARGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! Again, I even said I don't think it will happen. What part of that in my OP was confusing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Anyone think he could come here, or was Mario it? Maybe Kirk Morrison can do a little recruiting. The Bills should fire a couple coaches and pay players recruiting bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTO Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 it would be cool but i dont think we have the $ for him. We can release Kelsay, D Jones and Thigpen to make room for him salary wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 it would be cool but i dont think we have the $ for him. WGR estimated a Mario cap hit of less than $10 Mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Again, I even said I don't think it will happen. What part of that in my OP was confusing? This has been discussed over and over and over and over. What are you confused about when asking do you guys think he'll come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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