silvermike Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 I'm not really certain that Richie Incognito was any better than Chad Rinehart. He just has a funny name so everyone remembers him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 As of December 8th, the Buffalo News was calling Urbik's injury, a "ligament injury." Like I said, the initial word was that it wouldn't require surgery. I also found this scouting report on Richie Incognito: Grade: 57 | Key Comment: He has a reputation for being a dirty player who will take cheap shots. Incognito is an emotional player who is a mauler at the point of attack. He is not a technician; he is a guy that will lock on and try to maul his opponent to the ground. He is better in the run game than pass game. He is a guy who lunges too often and gets out of position. He does not posses great recovery quickness. He is a guy who is effective when he plays under control. Scouts Inc. has developed its own grading scale to better distinguish players of similar abilities in the NFL. Below is a breakdown of that scale and a glossary of the alerts Scouts uses to flag players with specific concerns. 100-90: Elite Player Player demonstrates rare abilities and can create mismatches that have an obvious impact on the game ... Premier NFL player who has all the skills to consistently play at a championship level ... Rates as one of the top players in the league at his position. 89-80: Outstanding Player Player has abilities to create mismatches versus most opponents in the NFL ... A feature player who has an impact on the outcome of the game ... Cannot be shut down by a single player and plays on a consistent level week-in and week-out. 79-70: Good Starter Solid starter who is close to being an outstanding player ... Has few weaknesses and will usually win his individual matchup but does not dominate in every game, especially when matched up against the top players in the league. 69-60: Average Starter A valuable roster player but is not dominant against the better players he faces on a week-to-week basis... Gives great effort and you are glad that he is on your team, but he may or may not go to the next level. 59- 50: Good Backup A player who is on the bubble and starts only because of a deficiency at the position ... He lacks complete overall skills, and although he will battle he will hinder his team's ability to play at a championship level if he is forced to be in the starting lineup consistently over a 16-game season ... A player you don't mind having on your team but someone you are always looking to upgrade. 49-40: Below Average Backup/Core Special Teamers Strictly a backup player who is not capable of starting ... If he is forced to start he is no more than a short-term fix ... He may make the team because of special teams contributions or experience ... A player you are always looking to upgrade as he will always be a borderline roster guy. And what was Corney and Hangerchief's grade number? 45? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 (edited) And what was Corney and Hangerchief's grade number? 45? Dude, if you watched O-line play carefully, you'd know that Incognito didn't play that well last year for the Bills. He was average. But since you asked, here's the scouting reports from the same source for Hangartner and Green coming into this season. Geoff Hangartner Grade: 59 | Key Comment: He is a starting center who does not have great physical tools but gets by on smarts. Hangartner understands taking good blocking angles in the run game. He shows good vision to adjust to stunts and twists in pass protection. However, he is limited in terms of his athletic ability and strength. Hangartner is not very good matched up one on one. He needs to get help from the guard spots. Overall, he is a tough, hard-nosed, blue-collar center who can win some battles because he is smart and understands blocking angles. Cornell Green Grade: 61 | Key Comment: Green is a good sized tackle with above average initial quickness and agility. He has been pretty much a full time starter over the past three years with Oakland but has struggled to stay healthy for a full 16 game schedule. He lacks top lateral range in pass pro and will struggle when facing explosive edge rushers on the speed rush and needs to stay on the right side. He has long arms and heavy hands and can shock and stymie rushers when he manages to get a good fit. He has a lot of natural strength but needs to work on keeping his pad level down as he tends to play tall and loose leverage on blocks. Edited December 18, 2010 by San Jose Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 He had just a couple of days to prepare and did well and played well for the entire time in Buffalo. Mansfield Wrotto's done the same and played just as well. So no big loss (or gain). Sorry Mrs. Incognito, street FAs like Richie (and Wrotto/Howard) are spare parts that start on bad teams out of necessity, not talent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Dude, if you watched O-line play carefully, you'd know that Incognito didn't play that well last year for the Bills. He was average. But since you asked, here's the scouting reports from the same source for Hangartner and Green coming into this season. Geoff Hangartner Grade: 59 | Key Comment: He is a starting center who does not have great physical tools but gets by on smarts. Hangartner understands taking good blocking angles in the run game. He shows good vision to adjust to stunts and twists in pass protection. However, he is limited in terms of his athletic ability and strength. Hangartner is not very good matched up one on one. He needs to get help from the guard spots. Overall, he is a tough, hard-nosed, blue-collar center who can win some battles because he is smart and understands blocking angles. Cornell Green Grade: 61 | Key Comment: Green is a good sized tackle with above average initial quickness and agility. He has been pretty much a full time starter over the past three years with Oakland but has struggled to stay healthy for a full 16 game schedule. He lacks top lateral range in pass pro and will struggle when facing explosive edge rushers on the speed rush and needs to stay on the right side. He has long arms and heavy hands and can shock and stymie rushers when he manages to get a good fit. He has a lot of natural strength but needs to work on keeping his pad level down as he tends to play tall and loose leverage on blocks. Thanks for the information-laden posts. A key thing to remember is that Cornell Green played a lot better last year (when he earned that 61) than he has this year. Possibly, some of that drop-off is that he's getting on in years. Someone also suggested the possibility he's been playing hurt. Any time you pay $3 million a year for a player who embarrasses himself the way Cornell Green did, it gets marked down as a front office mistake. But I don't see how the front office could be blamed for failing to realize that Cornell Green's play would suddenly plummet. To its credit, the front office realized its mistake and moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Incognito signed with the Dolphins for the league minimum. Merry Christmas everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 This thread is surreal. Has anyone actually watched Richie Incognito play? I'm not convinced most people on this board watch the Bills play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 What's surreal is that despite this same thread popping up every other week, there are still folks on this Board who don't understand what an RFA is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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