Poznasty51 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Jonathan Stupar being the starting tight end is not only an indictment of the previous coaching staff in terms of talent evaluation, but a hidden truth of roster development in the NFL. This guys bio is interesting. Stupar is the nephew of Jeff Hostetler and the brother of current Penn State (linebacker U) linebacker Nate Stupar. His father was also a lineman at Penn State from 1976-79. Stupar is from State College, PA. This kid is from a genetic pool hotbed and a regional hotbed of high school football. Other notable undrafteds: Kurt Warner - Arizona Willie Parker - Skins (Pittsburgh) Wes Welker - N.E. Antonio Gates - San Diego Jeff Saturday - Indy Pat Williams - Vikings James Harrison - Pittsburgh Bart Scott - NYJ Antonio Pierce - Giants Look at all the teams. They have all been successful, granted some of these teams did not originally draft these players, still very interesting. Pittsburgh had 2. Maybe Doug Whaley can bring that to Buffalo. Maybe he already has one if David Nelson becomes a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Jonathan Stupar being the starting tight end is not only an indictment of the previous coaching staff in terms of talent evaluation, but a hidden truth of roster development in the NFL. This guys bio is interesting. Stupar is the nephew of Jeff Hostetler and the brother of current Penn State (linebacker U) linebacker Nate Stupar. His father was also a lineman at Penn State from 1976-79. Stupar is from State College, PA. This kid is from a genetic pool hotbed and a regional hotbed of high school football. Other notable undrafteds: Kurt Warner - Arizona Willie Parker - Skins (Pittsburgh) Wes Welker - N.E. Antonio Gates - San Diego Jeff Saturday - Indy Pat Williams - Vikings James Harrison - Pittsburgh Bart Scott - NYJ Antonio Pierce - Giants Look at all the teams. They have all been successful, granted some of these teams did not originally draft these players, still very interesting. Pittsburgh had 2. Maybe Doug Whaley can bring that to Buffalo. Maybe he already has one if David Nelson becomes a stud. The bills have nurtured quite a few of these undrafted players namely Pat Williams and the one you forgot...Jason Peters. Wes Welker was picked up by Miami and NE had to give a 2nd rd draft pick to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poznasty51 Posted September 1, 2010 Author Share Posted September 1, 2010 The bills have nurtured quite a few of these undrafted players namely Pat Williams and the one you forgot...Jason Peters. Wes Welker was picked up by Miami and NE had to give a 2nd rd draft pick to get him. I also left out London Fletcher. Was fred Jackson considered an undrafted free agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need therapy Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I also left out London Fletcher. Was fred Jackson considered an undrafted free agent? Ummm..... yeah. Unless you consider the United Indoor Football League on the same level as the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 You forget to mention the 152,845 undrafted free agents that actually signed contracts over the years that sucked and went nowhere fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section444 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Tony Romo was undrafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 The bills have nurtured quite a few of these undrafted players namely Pat Williams and the one you forgot...Jason Peters. Wes Welker was picked up by Miami and NE had to give a 2nd rd draft pick to get him. Jabari Greer was another recent UDFA for the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 You forget to mention the 152,845 undrafted free agents that actually signed contracts over the years that sucked and went nowhere fast. Yes but if you look at all the starters in the NFL you find that being a top draft pick only makes a player slightly more likely to stick. Which makes the whole notion of tanking a season to get a pick ridiculous. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Which makes the whole notion of tanking a season to get a pick ridiculous. PTR Well tanking a season to get a pick is so ridiculous on so many levels I don't know where to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropeerasers Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Jonathan Stupar being the starting tight end is not only an indictment of the previous coaching staff in terms of talent evaluation, but a hidden truth of roster development in the NFL. This guys bio is interesting. Stupar is the nephew of Jeff Hostetler and the brother of current Penn State (linebacker U) linebacker Nate Stupar. His father was also a lineman at Penn State from 1976-79. Stupar is from State College, PA. This kid is from a genetic pool hotbed and a regional hotbed of high school football. Other notable undrafteds: Kurt Warner - Arizona Willie Parker - Skins (Pittsburgh) Wes Welker - N.E. Antonio Gates - San Diego Jeff Saturday - Indy Pat Williams - Vikings James Harrison - Pittsburgh Bart Scott - NYJ Antonio Pierce - Giants Look at all the teams. They have all been successful, granted some of these teams did not originally draft these players, still very interesting. Pittsburgh had 2. Maybe Doug Whaley can bring that to Buffalo. Maybe he already has one if David Nelson becomes a stud. The bills have nurtured quite a few of these undrafted players namely Pat Williams and the one you forgot...Jason Peters. Wes Welker was picked up by Miami and NE had to give a 2nd rd draft pick to get him. AND Antonio Pierce was a Redskin AND Bart Scott was a Raven. Plus, how could you possibly credit Arizona for Kurt Warner? If you want to get really technical, the only two from this list that are listed with the team they started out with are Harrison and Gates. But that's kind of misleading for two reasons. First, Harrison bounced around practice squads for other teams and NFL Europe before the Steelers brought him back. Second, while Saturday really started out as a rookie for the Ravens it was the Colts that truly took a leap of faith with him. But pretty much everyone else on the list were established veterans by the time they made it to those teams. I don't see how that's an indicator of anything but their willingness to spend on free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beautiful East Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Well, it may be an indicator of the fact that a qualified eye for talent (and character?) is worth as much as college stats and combine numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poznasty51 Posted September 1, 2010 Author Share Posted September 1, 2010 Yes but if you look at all the starters in the NFL you find that being a top draft pick only makes a player slightly more likely to stick. Which makes the whole notion of tanking a season to get a pick ridiculous. PTR I would say the only reason it even makes you slightly more likely to stick is because of the investment. They get married to players because of their pick. If Carrington was an undrafted, would he make it? What about Chris Ellis, would he still even be around? I am not trying to make the case that it is a wash between undrafteds and draft picks, but it seems that every team out there is missing. I think paying attention to other practice squads and preseason is huge fot building a team. We started doing that as soon as buddy nix came over. Ex: Brohm. I think we make moves if there is anyone out there that gets cut that has talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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