Coach55 Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Below are the records of all of the Bills starters through the history. As Bills - only 10 QBs have 16 starts are more, of which only 3 had winning records (Kelly, Kemp and Flutie). If you take out the combined records of these 3 QBs (165-99-3-62.5%), our remaining QBs combine for a 189-295-5-39.2% record. It just shows you how important a franchise QB is. GS W L T W% W L W% Ferguson 163 77 86 47.2% 1 3 25.0% Kelly 160 101 59 63.1% 9 8 52.9% Kemp 77 43 31 3 57.8% 2 3 40.0% Bledsoe 48 23 25 47.9% Shaw 37 8 27 2 22.9% Losman 33 10 23 30.3% Flutie 30 21 9 70.0% 0 1 0.0% Edwards 30 14 16 46.7% Johnson 26 9 17 34.6% 0 1 0.0% Collins 17 7 10 41.2% Green 11 5 6 45.5% Van Pelt 11 3 8 27.3% Darragh 11 1 10 9.1% Rabb 10 6 3 1 66.7% Ferragamo 9 1 8 11.1% Fitzpatrick 8 4 4 50.0% Holcomb 8 4 4 50.0% Reich 8 4 4 50.0% 2 0 100.0% Mathison 7 1 6 14.3% Marangi 7 0 7 0.0% O'Connell 6 1 4 1 20.0% Dufek 5 1 4 20.0% Lamonica 4 4 0 100.0% Flores 4 1 2 1 37.5% Lucas 4 1 3 25.0% Dorow 4 0 4 0.0% Reynolds 3 2 1 66.7% Harris 3 0 3 0.0% Rutkowski 3 0 3 0.0% Stephenson3 0 3 0.0% McClure 1 1 0 100.0% Brodhead 1 1 0 100.0% Totten 1 0 1 0.0% Brohm 1 0 1 0.0% Manucci 1 0 1 0.0% Hart 1 0 1 0.0% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach55 Posted May 21, 2010 Author Share Posted May 21, 2010 Below are the records of all of the Bills starters through the history. As Bills - only 10 QBs have 16 starts are more, of which only 3 had winning records (Kelly, Kemp and Flutie). If you take out the combined records of these 3 QBs (165-99-3-62.5%), our remaining QBs combine for a 189-295-5-39.2% record. It just shows you how important a franchise QB is. GS W L T W% W L W% Ferguson 163 77 86 47.2% 1 3 25.0% Kelly 160 101 59 63.1% 9 8 52.9% Kemp 77 43 31 3 57.8% 2 3 40.0% Bledsoe 48 23 25 47.9% Shaw 37 8 27 2 22.9% Losman 33 10 23 30.3% Flutie 30 21 9 70.0% 0 1 0.0% Edwards 30 14 16 46.7% Johnson 26 9 17 34.6% 0 1 0.0% Collins 17 7 10 41.2% Green 11 5 6 45.5% Van Pelt 11 3 8 27.3% Darragh 11 1 10 9.1% Rabb 10 6 3 1 66.7% Ferragamo 9 1 8 11.1% Fitzpatrick 8 4 4 50.0% Holcomb 8 4 4 50.0% Reich 8 4 4 50.0% 2 0 100.0% Mathison 7 1 6 14.3% Marangi 7 0 7 0.0% O'Connell 6 1 4 1 20.0% Dufek 5 1 4 20.0% Lamonica 4 4 0 100.0% Flores 4 1 2 1 37.5% Lucas 4 1 3 25.0% Dorow 4 0 4 0.0% Reynolds 3 2 1 66.7% Harris 3 0 3 0.0% Rutkowski 3 0 3 0.0% Stephenson3 0 3 0.0% McClure 1 1 0 100.0% Brodhead 1 1 0 100.0% Totten 1 0 1 0.0% Brohm 1 0 1 0.0% Manucci 1 0 1 0.0% Hart 1 0 1 0.0% FYI - the second set of W-L-W% for some QB's is their playoff record. This didn't print in the chart as I laid it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Below are the records of all of the Bills starters through the history. As Bills - only 10 QBs have 16 starts are more, of which only 3 had winning records (Kelly, Kemp and Flutie). If you take out the combined records of these 3 QBs (165-99-3-62.5%), our remaining QBs combine for a 189-295-5-39.2% record. It just shows you how important a franchise QB is. I think it shows the futility of this organization in its entirety . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 I think it shows the futility of this organization in its entirety . it shows the incompetence of the owner...even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut (and then he benches one of them for a playoff game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 it shows the incompetence of the owner...even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut (and then he benches one of them for a playoff game) At one time Flutie was the whip shizzle... for this you cannot deny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 Below are the records of all of the Bills starters through the history. As Bills - only 10 QBs have 16 starts are more, of which only 3 had winning records (Kelly, Kemp and Flutie). If you take out the combined records of these 3 QBs (165-99-3-62.5%), our remaining QBs combine for a 189-295-5-39.2% record. It just shows you how important a franchise QB is. GS W L T W% W L W% Ferguson 163 77 86 47.2% 1 3 25.0% Kelly 160 101 59 63.1% 9 8 52.9% Kemp 77 43 31 3 57.8% 2 3 40.0% Did the AFL just play the regular season East Champ vs West Champ? Seems to be the case with Kemp having a 2-3 playoff record, having won 2 AFL championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conch Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 didn't Marlin Briscoe get a start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Did the AFL just play the regular season East Champ vs West Champ? Seems to be the case with Kemp having a 2-3 playoff record, having won 2 AFL championships. Yes, unless there was a divisional tie, as in 1963, when the Bills played and lost a playoff to the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Byrd Man Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Below are the records of all of the Bills starters through the history. As Bills - only 10 QBs have 16 starts are more, of which only 3 had winning records (Kelly, Kemp and Flutie). If you take out the combined records of these 3 QBs (165-99-3-62.5%), our remaining QBs combine for a 189-295-5-39.2% record. It just shows you how important a franchise QB is. GS W L T W% W L W% Ferguson 163 77 86 47.2% 1 3 25.0% Kelly 160 101 59 63.1% 9 8 52.9% Kemp 77 43 31 3 57.8% 2 3 40.0% Bledsoe 48 23 25 47.9% Shaw 37 8 27 2 22.9% Losman 33 10 23 30.3% Flutie 30 21 9 70.0% 0 1 0.0% Edwards 30 14 16 46.7% Johnson 26 9 17 34.6% 0 1 0.0% Collins 17 7 10 41.2% Green 11 5 6 45.5% Van Pelt 11 3 8 27.3% Darragh 11 1 10 9.1% Rabb 10 6 3 1 66.7% Ferragamo 9 1 8 11.1% Fitzpatrick 8 4 4 50.0% Holcomb 8 4 4 50.0% Reich 8 4 4 50.0% 2 0 100.0% Mathison 7 1 6 14.3% Marangi 7 0 7 0.0% O'Connell 6 1 4 1 20.0% Dufek 5 1 4 20.0% Lamonica 4 4 0 100.0% Flores 4 1 2 1 37.5% Lucas 4 1 3 25.0% Dorow 4 0 4 0.0% Reynolds 3 2 1 66.7% Harris 3 0 3 0.0% Rutkowski 3 0 3 0.0% Stephenson3 0 3 0.0% McClure 1 1 0 100.0% Brodhead 1 1 0 100.0% Totten 1 0 1 0.0% Brohm 1 0 1 0.0% Manucci 1 0 1 0.0% Hart 1 0 1 0.0% It's easy to look at won/losses to evaluate a QB but it's not always the real picture. Fergy was a pretty decent QB but played on several teams with horrible D's. I remember many games lost in shootouts 37-42 or 48-50. You can't lay that on the QB. I also remember Flutie being pretty bad the year he was benched for Johnson but had a good record thanks to the D and special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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