Johnny Coli Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 In truth, I do appreciate the genre for what it is...but I don't consider it music. That's just my musical bigotry showing, though...I'm just old-school when it comes to music, in thinking it should have harmony in addition to rhythm. 131165[/snapback] True, it's more like story-telling, or a poetry slam with a beat. Much of the rap/hip-hop stuff all sounds the same to me, but then again, so does the blues or jazz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 The REALLY interesting thing about that statement is...we don't really know, do we? For all Frenkle knows, BiB is black... 131172[/snapback] Mostly in my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Coli Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Mostly in my heart. 131178[/snapback] It's your sense of rhythm that gives you away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 The early gansta rap was pretty groundbreaking stuff because it spoke about how life was in some of the worst areas to live in america. That NWA-Straight out of Compton record is a brilliant, powerful piece of expression. You don't have to enjoy the music, but you have to appreciate the brutal honesty of it. There is no other record like it in this genre, all else pales in comparison, and just about everything else in the genre is crap/fantasy/cartoonish. 131161[/snapback] Oh, please. Why is there no record like it? Because they were the first to curse in the songs? Care to describe how NWA was more revolutionary than Public Enemy, or even the tame Grandmaster Flash & FF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Oh, please. Why is there no record like it? Because they were the first to curse in the songs? Care to describe how NWA was more revolutionary than Public Enemy, or even the tame Grandmaster Flash & FF? 131213[/snapback] And just where have YOU been, young man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 The REALLY interesting thing about that statement is...we don't really know, do we? For all Frenkle knows, BiB is black... 131172[/snapback] But I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 And just where have YOU been, young man? 131222[/snapback] Avoiding work, so I'm writing out Chri.... (uhhm) Holiday Cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 But I know. 131236[/snapback] That's how rumors get started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdh1 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 A LOT of people would disagree. Maybe it's just past your time. BTW, how do you feel about black people? 130170[/snapback] Hey, White rappers suck too. Maybe we should ask you the question "Do you play an instrument?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Hey, White rappers suck too. Maybe we should ask you the question "Do you play an instrument?" 131253[/snapback] Can I answer that for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Can I answer that for him? 131257[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Coli Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Oh, please. Why is there no record like it? Because they were the first to curse in the songs? Care to describe how NWA was more revolutionary than Public Enemy, or even the tame Grandmaster Flash & FF? 131213[/snapback] GM-Flash and the Furious Five’s early sides were heavier on the “partytime” angle, and only barely scratched the surface of how socially conscious the genre could be (I don’t consider them “gansta rap” anyway). You make a good point about Public Enemy, but I feel (just an opinion) that they stuck more to a politicized African-American empowerment/nationalism line, rather than beating you over the head with how it is to just survive in that environment. NWA speaks more to black urban alienation and doesn’t go anywhere near the politics PE does, or the feel-good-time Flash does. All three are excellent examples of how rich the rap musical genre could be/was, and how lame it has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 GM-Flash and the Furious Five’s early sides were heavier on the “partytime” angle, and only barely scratched the surface of how socially conscious the genre could be (I don’t consider them “gansta rap” anyway). You make a good point about Public Enemy, but I feel (just an opinion) that they stuck more to a politicized African-American empowerment/nationalism line, rather than beating you over the head with how it is to just survive in that environment. NWA speaks more to black urban alienation and doesn’t go anywhere near the politics PE does, or the feel-good-time Flash does. All three are excellent examples of how rich the rap musical genre could be/was, and how lame it has become. 131384[/snapback] Good summation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Good summation. 131389[/snapback] Germ Boy does have his moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Germ Boy does have his moments. 131408[/snapback] Only his youthful inexperience makes him a liberal. That'll change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Coli Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Only his youthful inexperience makes him a liberal. That'll change. 131409[/snapback] Don't try to change me, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Don't try to change me, baby. 131414[/snapback] I'm not trying to change anyone. It's simply inevitable. You heard it here first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Don't try to change me, baby. 131414[/snapback] Time and pain will take care of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wham Rocks Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Why worry about silly things like racism and rap music when you can... Dance to this pointless waste of time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 No, the main reason they were purged is because they got too big for their britches. The racial philosophy and politics of the Nazi party was dangerous BS...but it was fundamentally BS. The real motivations behind the party politics were almost universally about power, not race. The SA simply became too powerful an arm to be tolerated, particularly by the Wehrmacht...so Hitler bought the Army's acceptance of Nazi rule by doing away with the SA. 131119[/snapback] Then you totally dicsount the fact that the SA filled it's ranks with semi-illiterate "beefsteak socialists" that wouldn't toe the line with Nazi racial and political ideologies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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