Chuckknox Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Letting Walker & Dockery go, not signing any Linebackers or O linemen who were available. AVP promoted to O coord, etc... It's almost like they are trying to ruin this team on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Couple things They DID bring in a Vet QB backup...Fitzpatrick Losman was pretty much shot...hopefully he can turn his career around but I wouldn't count on it Peters tanked it on purpose in 2008...worst LT in the game last year...we should've had a better plan to replace him, though Maybin...he might be good one day...but not for a while...and you have to get production out of the 11th pick...I totally agree Had they not tried to go with a no-huddle, Walker would still be here...he couldn't hack the no-huddle...poorly conditioned Peters was our worst O-lineman in 08, Dockery was 2nd worst...Levitre very likely will grade out better than Dockery did LBs...injuries were the issue to that group O-line...injuries and a lack of chemistry were the issue. The O-line has to play together to play as a unit and even if we didn't have injury problems there, it would've been midseason before we knew what kind of a unit we actually had AVP...I wonder how we would've done had he been able to install his own playbook instead of going with what Schonert left Interesting note...all 3 teams that switched offensive coordinators just prior to the season struggled mightily, especially on offense. Somehow I think few teams will ever think of making a change like that again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Why does everyone seem to think that this team needed immediate production out of Maybin? Even if he played great for a rookie, it still wouldn't have really mattered. There was nothing wrong with drafting a project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLZFAN4LIFE Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Why does everyone seem to think that this team needed immediate production out of Maybin? Even if he played great for a rookie, it still wouldn't have really mattered. There was nothing wrong with drafting a project. Production out of the #11 overall pick is sooo overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeBillsDrive Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Peters tanked it on purpose in 2008...worst LT in the game last year...we should've had a better plan to replace him, thoughMaybin...he might be good one day...but not for a while...and you have to get production out of the 11th pick...I totally agree Yup, Andy Reid traded for the "worst LT in the game" and paid Peters $60M over 6 years. $10M/year money for the "worst LT in the game" And Peters deliberately "tanked it on purpose" The nonsense that people peddle on internet blogs is breathtaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotta Dream Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Worst part of it is we still won games instead of guaranteeing an even better draft pick! What's the use of winning any games when the team is this BAD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Expecting production out of the #11 overall pick is sooo overrated. There is a difference between expecting and needing. Everyone knew Maybin was a project, and anyone who expected a good rookie year was, frankly, ignorant. Maybin was drafted for long term development, and has rare speed and athleticism, which is why he was such a highly rated prospect. Maybin may be a bust, or he might be the next Jason Taylor, but evaluating him now is idiotic. The kid might never be any good, but he has the talent to be a perennial sack leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Yup, Andy Reid traded for the "worst LT in the game" and paid Peters $60M over 6 years. $10M/year money for the "worst LT in the game" And Peters deliberately "tanked it on purpose" The nonsense that people peddle on internet blogs is breathtaking Peters was not the worst lineman on the team last year, although revisionism like that can make it easier to justify him being pedaled. Melvin Fowler was so bad they benched him for a guy that couldn't remember snap counts or even what formation they were in. As if it were merely accidental that they targeted a guy who scored "genius" on the Wonderlic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 If we only make one change, change the FO, we cant survive with drafts being this bad for a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 There is a difference between expecting and needing. Everyone knew Maybin was a project, and anyone who expected a good rookie year was, frankly, ignorant. Maybin was drafted for long term development, and has rare speed and athleticism, which is why he was such a highly rated prospect. Maybin may be a bust, or he might be the next Jason Taylor, but evaluating him now is idiotic. The kid might never be any good, but he has the talent to be a perennial sack leader. Sure glad the Bills didn't draft Orakpo. He might end up NFL Rookie of the year at DE. 11 sacks or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Sure glad the Bills didn't draft Orakpo. He might end up NFL Rookie of the year at DE. 11 sacks or something like that. It's always smart to throw your top pick at a guy that will need 2 to 4 years to be good enough to actually be on the field more than a few token snaps when the owner and COO are stoking the coals under your hot seat and demanding that you win now or you'll be hung from the nearest limb. It's logic is simply brilliant. It's only a whisker better than drafting a RB with a devastating knee injury who you know won't play a single snap when you are a lame duck. You'd think these coaches might actually be saying something like "!@#$ this ****. I hope Ralph fires me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Sure glad the Bills didn't draft Orakpo. He might end up NFL Rookie of the year at DE. 11 sacks or something like that. God forbid, we wouldn't that guy on our squad. Sheesh, I was really bummed when they didn't take Arakpo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Peters was not the worst lineman on the team last year, although revisionism like that can make it easier to justify him being pedaled. Melvin Fowler was so bad they benched him for a guy that couldn't remember snap counts or even what formation they were in. As if it were merely accidental that they targeted a guy who scored "genius" on the Wonderlic... What do you expect from a person who thinks an adequate slow footed RT would have been a viable replacement for LT if only the Bills did not attempt to play that pesky no-huddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I dunno, I thought the Drayton Florence pickup was a good one. So was Wood, Levitre, Hangartner, Nelson, and Byrd, for that matter. Giving Jackson his extension was also pretty smart. Same for Evans. Oh, and McGee too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I dunno, I thought the Drayton Florence pickup was a good one. So was Wood, Levitre, Hangartner, Nelson, and Byrd, for that matter. Giving Jackson his extension was also pretty smart. Same for Evans. Oh, and McGee too. Yeah, ALL is a strong word but the overall strategy was horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 There is a difference between expecting and needing. Everyone knew Maybin was a project, and anyone who expected a good rookie year was, frankly, ignorant. Maybin was drafted for long term development, and has rare speed and athleticism, which is why he was such a highly rated prospect. Maybin may be a bust, or he might be the next Jason Taylor, but evaluating him now is idiotic. The kid might never be any good, but he has the talent to be a perennial sack leader. Any F.O. that's drafts a "project" at DE with the 11th overall pick is ignorant. NO F.O. (other than the Bills apparently) drafts a project player that high. It's BS, and if they say that, they're lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Why does everyone seem to think that this team needed immediate production out of Maybin? Even if he played great for a rookie, it still wouldn't have really mattered. There was nothing wrong with drafting a project. I hope u r being sarcastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHampshireBillsFan Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I hope u r being sarcastic I wonder how high Maybin would have gone if the Bills hadn't taken him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninFl Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 It's always smart to throw your top pick at a guy that will need 2 to 4 years to be good enough to actually be on the field more than a few token snaps when the owner and COO are stoking the coals under your hot seat and demanding that you win now or you'll be hung from the nearest limb. It's logic is simply brilliant. It's only a whisker better than drafting a RB with a devastating knee injury who you know won't play a single snap when you are a lame duck. You'd think these coaches might actually be saying something like "!@#$ this ****. I hope Ralph fires me." Or even quit, saying "I've had enough of this Malarky." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Wrong Moves: Not signing Vet QB Trading Jason Peters Cutting Dockery and Walker Drafting Maybin Right Moves: Drafting Wood (with pick obtained by trading Peters) Drafting Byrd Drafting Levitre Drafting Nelson (with pick obtained by trading Peters) Signing TO Not re-signing JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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