Flbillsfan#1 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 The problem is a 91 year owner and a team that will be sold to the highest bidder when he dies. Why is that a problem? If Shanahan has a contract it will have to be honored by the new owner. I would think having him as HC would make the Team more attractive to potential buyers than a Coach like say.........Dick Jauron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackemrack Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 2 cents from a Pats fan, Shanahan is the last guy I want the Bills to hire. Until he got fired he was the only active coach with a winning record against Brady (5-1) and Belichick(5-2) i hope ralph wilson reads your post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubj04 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 If Shanahan does come here and through some biblically catastrophic event manages to win a Super Bowl the man will not just be a coach, he will be A GOD! The people of Buffalo and Bills fans everywhere will throw themselves at his feet and beg to be touched by the hand of God. All the other cities that are being discussed; Washington, Dallas, Chicago etc all have other **** going on. In Buffalo there is breathing air and the Bills. I'm not even sure if that order is correct, it might be the Bills then breathing. Buffalo is the Bills and a Super Bowl victory is the emotional equivalent of the rapture. Can you imagine the parade................ Just had to agree, and say this is probably the best post I read this year!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 2 cents from a Pats fan, Shanahan is the last guy I want the Bills to hire. Until he got fired he was the only active coach with a winning record against Brady (5-1) and Belichick(5-2) I hear ya buddy, Probably a big reason why the Bills are willing to offer Mike Shanahan a piece of the pie and also pay him 10 million a year for the next 5 years as it bakes in the oven. Until we can beat the Pats, its all for not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Wouldn't it be ironic if the Bills hired on a guy (Shanahan) who was tied-in to the cheating (salary cap) ways of the Broncos during those tainted SB wins? What would all of those * folks who forever denounce the "cheating" Patriots do to rationalize such a hiring? My guess is turn a blind, hypocritical eye. Alternatively, people could point out that whatever "cheating" may or may not have occurred with the Broncos does not in any way taint Bills wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 If Shanahan does come here and through some biblically catastrophic event manages to win a Super Bowl the man will not just be a coach, he will be A GOD! The people of Buffalo and Bills fans everywhere will throw themselves at his feet and beg to be touched by the hand of God. All the other cities that are being discussed; Washington, Dallas, Chicago etc all have other **** going on. In Buffalo there is breathing air and the Bills. I'm not even sure if that order is correct, it might be the Bills then breathing. Buffalo is the Bills and a Super Bowl victory is the emotional equivalent of the rapture. Can you imagine the parade................ Mike, I posted someting similar in another thread before I read this. Thanks for saying it better than I was able to. I believe that Shanahan wants to be a part of this and must weigh family considerations too. Why else would he accept an interview on Thanksgiving week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 The Denver Broncos are also a cold weather, old-line AFL team with a rabid fan base. When Shanahan took that job the Broncos were 0-4 in Super Bowls and suffered the stigma of "always being the bridesmaid". While Denver is bigger than Buffalo, the two cities are more relatively similar in terms of "glitz and sizzle" factors to one another than either is to, say, Washington, Dallas, or Chicago. Side note: There is something to be said for the good fortune of tradition as it relates to the Dallas Cowboys brand establishment. The Cowboys are associated through their divisional rivalries with the major money and power markets of the east coast in New York, Washington, and Philadelphia, when they could have instead been tied to, say, New Orleans, Atlanta, and a couple of teams from the west coast. The Bills franchise has a very similar marketing position when you get right down to it (New York, Boston, and Miami); but, unlike the Cowboys, the Bills have never established a long haul track record of sustained success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninFl Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 To put it bluntly, Shanahan considers himself a HOF coach. Then there is the Bills. A 91 year old owner hell-bent on a Super Bowl win. A great fanbase and football town. The ULTIMATE underdog story if you could win there. Then there's this intangible that would likely appeal to a guy like Shanahan: you win a SB in Buffalo and you did something NOBODY else was able to do. He would be a GOD here and easily a 1st ballot HOFer. To some guys, that is the ultimate motivation. Wilson (who is not stupid) senses that the fans have had enough. Last year, he plunked down the cash to bring inT.O. and suck in the population again. Now, he knows even the elite single player acquisition will not be enough to placate the peasants. So he indicates he may be willing to pay big bucks to bring in a top notch coach. Suddenly, he is "a 91 year old owner hell-bent on a Super Bowl win?" If you had been paying attention, you would have read the reports from all directions that Shanahan's resume was built on spending big bucks on assitants and players. For Shanahan to be a fit in Buffalo, Wilson would have to spend all the money he has made during the last decade by being a cheap date, to have a Shanahan-type team. Mike is simply using the Bills to spark interest (and a bidding war) for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Wouldn't it be ironic if the Bills hired on a guy (Shanahan) who was tied-in to the cheating (salary cap) ways of the Broncos during those tainted SB wins? What would all of those * folks who forever denounce the "cheating" Patriots do to rationalize such a hiring? My guess is turn a blind, hypocritical eye. Uhh, perhaps because unlike the Spygate (and as yet unproven, but routinely surmised, worse) caper, the Broncos issues came from the front office's shenanigans in signing players, nothing to do with the coaching. Spygate (and said worse), on the other hand, originated directly from Belicheat himself...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 PTR, this is certainly a valid point, however I think that this is the reason there are reports that Shanny is being offered partial ownership in the team. Then he's really hurting himself if he takes his check and then gets lazy. Of course, this is my speculation based on the rumor of him being offered partial ownership. I could be wrong. Mike T. I'll just take proving Jerry Sullivan WRONG in addition to the success... boy I will laugh if Shanahan takes the Bills job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWVABillsFan Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 If Shanahan does come here and through some biblically catastrophic event manages to win a Super Bowl the man will not just be a coach, he will be A GOD! The people of Buffalo and Bills fans everywhere will throw themselves at his feet and beg to be touched by the hand of God. All the other cities that are being discussed; Washington, Dallas, Chicago etc all have other **** going on. In Buffalo there is breathing air and the Bills. I'm not even sure if that order is correct, it might be the Bills then breathing. Buffalo is the Bills and a Super Bowl victory is the emotional equivalent of the rapture. Can you imagine the parade................ Better watch who u r accepting as your God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy G Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Wilson (who is not stupid) senses that the fans have had enough. Last year, he plunked down the cash to bring inT.O. and suck in the population again. Now, he knows even the elite single player acquisition will not be enough to placate the peasants. So he indicates he may be willing to pay big bucks to bring in a top notch coach. Suddenly, he is "a 91 year old owner hell-bent on a Super Bowl win?" If you had been paying attention, you would have read the reports from all directions that Shanahan's resume was built on spending big bucks on assitants and players. For Shanahan to be a fit in Buffalo, Wilson would have to spend all the money he has made during the last decade by being a cheap date, to have a Shanahan-type team. Mike is simply using the Bills to spark interest (and a bidding war) for him. Of course he's trying to get the most money he can, wouldn't you? No one knows what kind of offer they're gonna give him, they are waiting till the end of the season anyway, but the fact that Shanahan and Russ Brandon met for 7 hours Monday night and Tuesday morning, and Adam Schefter of ESPN, who's a friend of Shanahans, talked to the Coach and quoted him as saying "We had an excellent meeting. I was really impressed with Russ Brandon and everything he had to say. We're going to stay in touch and see what develops." Why would he say anything about staying in touch, or that it was an excellent meeting unless it sounded intriging to him? Sounds like it could be a working relationship if they decide to keep Brandon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Pasting this from a prediction thread I started this morning, that was closed by our genius moderators: SHANAHAN IS A BILL... Just having some fun trying to interpret the circumstances of the meeting this week, and the statement that Shanahan made when it was done. Bottom line, I think he and Russ hammered out a gentlemen's agreement that they cannot announce right away due to the Rooney rule. Follow me on this logic: - I think most would agree that meeting for 7 hours, past midnight on the first day, is pretty meaningful in itself. But why stretch the meeting over TWO DAYS - is this a "sleep on it" kind of thing? If nothing else, it shows me that there were some pretty in-depth conversations taking place. - Shanahan's description of the meeting as "excellent" and "productive" are very interesting word choices to me, in that they are much more than a perfunctory description. And, he stated that he was "impressed" with Brandon's presentation. If in the end Shanahan had intentions of going elsewhere, why would it serve his interests to be so effusive in his description of the meeting? I don't think it does - unless he's just naturally an extremely gracious guy. Now, some might say that Shanahan might have subtly hyped his meeting with Russ in an effort to entice another team to offer him an even better deal. I ask, is he really going to get a better deal than $10 MILLION A YEAR WITH FULL CONTROL OF THE FOOTBALL OPERATIONS? I doubt it. - Shanahan said he and Russ will "stay in touch" and (paraphrasing here) "see what develops". This could mean several things but I believe this is the code phrase for, "we can't announce any results until the Bills have interviewed Fewell." Again, why did he feel it necessary to say they will stay in touch? I read this as his way of leaving the door open for a later announcement of a deal. Call me crazy but I'm predicting right now that this is all but a done deal. OK, flame away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Pasting this from a prediction thread I started this morning, that was closed by our genius moderators: SHANAHAN IS A BILL... Just having some fun trying to interpret the circumstances of the meeting this week, and the statement that Shanahan made when it was done. Bottom line, I think he and Russ hammered out a gentlemen's agreement that they cannot announce right away due to the Rooney rule. Follow me on this logic: - I think most would agree that meeting for 7 hours, past midnight on the first day, is pretty meaningful in itself. But why stretch the meeting over TWO DAYS - is this a "sleep on it" kind of thing? If nothing else, it shows me that there were some pretty in-depth conversations taking place. - Shanahan's description of the meeting as "excellent" and "productive" are very interesting word choices to me, in that they are much more than a perfunctory description. And, he stated that he was "impressed" with Brandon's presentation. If in the end Shanahan had intentions of going elsewhere, why would it serve his interests to be so effusive in his description of the meeting? I don't think it does - unless he's just naturally an extremely gracious guy. Now, some might say that Shanahan might have subtly hyped his meeting with Russ in an effort to entice another team to offer him an even better deal. I ask, is he really going to get a better deal than $10 MILLION A YEAR WITH FULL CONTROL OF THE FOOTBALL OPERATIONS? I doubt it. - Shanahan said he and Russ will "stay in touch" and (paraphrasing here) "see what develops". This could mean several things but I believe this is the code phrase for, "we can't announce any results until the Bills have interviewed Fewell." Again, why did he feel it necessary to say they will stay in touch? I read this as his way of leaving the door open for a later announcement of a deal. Call me crazy but I'm predicting right now that this is all but a done deal. OK, flame away... or the more likley interpretation is that Shanhan will be using the Bills opportunity as leverage in negotiations with other clubs. It does Shanahan zero good to shut down the Bills at this time, even if he has zero interest in their potential offer, hates Brandon and thinks Ralph is a senile meddling old codger. of course, he is going to say what he said I will believe Ralph will pay $10+ mil for a coach when they produce the signed contract. Whatever they pay will be wasted if they don't gut the front office as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 2 cents from a Pats fan, Shanahan is the last guy I want the Bills to hire. Until he got fired he was the only active coach with a winning record against Brady (5-1) and Belichick(5-2) Furthermore, Shanahan had posted the most wins in pro football history in a two-year period (33 from 1997-98). He'll want to wrest the record back from the team that surpassed his record (New England won 34 from 2003-04). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 SHANAHAN IS A BILL... You know what it means? It means Shanahan and Brandon met. It means the Bills have expressed interest, and Shanahan was interested enough to hear what the Bills had to say. Unless you hear details from Brandon or Shanahan, any posts on what happened and what you can read into the meeting are pure mental masturbation. And all threads speculating "I think it's a done deal" or "no way Shanahan will ever coach in Buffalo" are all bull **** and a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boom Jam Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 2 cents from a Pats fan, Shanahan is the last guy I want the Bills to hire. Until he got fired he was the only active coach with a winning record against Brady (5-1) and Belichick(5-2) I'm pretty sure he's been a pain in Manning's ass as well. Thanks for the post, because I was curious about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boom Jam Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Better watch who u r accepting as your God. Lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 You know what it means? It means Shanahan and Brandon met. It means the Bills have expressed interest, and Shanahan was interested enough to hear what the Bills had to say. Unless you hear details from Brandon or Shanahan, any posts on what happened and what you can read into the meeting are pure mental masturbation. And all threads speculating "I think it's a done deal" or "no way Shanahan will ever coach in Buffalo" are all bull **** and a waste of time. So if prediction threads (posts?) are a waste of time, what are posts that COMMENT on prediction posts? Why get mad about what I posted? Time will tell if I'm right or wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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