Malazan Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 If you could go to say the Cowboys, Redskins or any number of other teams, that have an owner who puts winning first, a front office who has a clue, and a history of winning in recent memory, would you want to come to Buffalo? Which of those things sounds like the Redskins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 How the heck do you figure that? Ralph doesn't meddle anywhere near as much as those two..He's much worse. For just one of many examples, Jones or Snyder would not have forced Wade to bench Flutie before the Titans playoff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 How the heck do you figure that? Ralph doesn't meddle anywhere near as much as those two.. Jones and Snyder love the media spotlight much more than Ralph- but Ralph does not take a backseat to anyone when it comes to screwing up the football decisions of his team. go no farther than the mysterious "inner circle" which Ralph uses to deflect attention away from himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 He's much worse. For just one of many examples, Jones or Snyder would not have forced Wade to bench Flutie before the Titans playoff game. Jerry Jones says that he decides who plays http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/10...that-he-decides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Snyder has been accused of meddling quite a bit too http://content.usatoday.com/communities/th...orn-to-resign/1 you can actually find a ton of these stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 If none of the top-tier coaches sign with the Bills, despite what some misguided fans have said here on this thread, it's not an indictment of the owner. The sad fact is that Buffalo is one of the least desirable destinations for players AND coaches. I mean, if tons of money, total control, and allegedly part ownership isn't enough, what is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Snyder has been accused of meddling quite a bit too http://content.usatoday.com/communities/th...orn-to-resign/1 you can actually find a ton of these stories I don't think either of them would be stupid enough to force his HC to bench the starting QB for an RJ before a playoff game. That was one of the all-time bonehead moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 If none of the top-tier coaches sign with the Bills, despite what some misguided fans have said here on this thread, it's not an indictment of the owner. The sad fact is that Buffalo is one of the least desirable destinations for players AND coaches. I mean, if tons of money, total control, and allegedly part ownership isn't enough, what is? What everyone continues to overlook is that Shanny has all the money he could ever want. It's not the owner. It's not the money. It's not the small city. These guys want to win and win now. Shanny is going to the team he feels is close enough, to turn around within two seasons, and of course he wants total control. I don't know if this team is close enough or not in his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I don't think either of them would be stupid enough to force his HC to bench the starting QB for an RJ before a playoff game. That was one of the all-time bonehead moves. No doubt stupid move, but Wilson doesn't approach Jones or Snyder in terms of meddling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 No doubt stupid move, but Wilson doesn't approach Jones or Snyder in terms of meddling.I believe once Ralph passes, more horror stories will come out. I wish TD would write a book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 What everyone continues to overlook is that Shanny has all the money he could ever want. It's not the owner. It's not the money. It's not the small city. These guys want to win and win now. Shanny is going to the team he feels is close enough, to turn around within two seasons, and of course he wants total control. I don't know if this team is close enough or not in his mind. With an offensive mind like his, the offense should be good immediately. That means he can focus on the defense, which hasn't been too bad, despite playing the cover-2. There are very few teams who will be firing their HC's and who will have all or even most of the pieces these guys purportedly want. And if they need a team on the cusp and to have had all the hard work done for them already, the Bills are barking-up the wrong tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Why don't we just let this play out before we start looking for the four horsemen. Ice never waits, man. He would melt, after all, and needs to panic in haste, then repent at redass leisure.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 With an offensive mind like his, the offense should be good immediately. That means he can focus on the defense, which hasn't been too bad, despite playing the cover-2. There are very few teams who will be firing their HC's and who will have all or even most of the pieces these guys purportedly want. And if they need a team on the cusp and to have had all the hard work done for them already, the Bills are barking-up the wrong tree. Even an offensive guru can't coach around this offense, at least under it's current state. Shanny has to decide if he thinks he can fix this team quicker than his other choices. I can't speak for any of these guys. Shanny might want to have free reign to bring in all his own players or maybe he wants something that would take just a little tweaking like Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Even an offensive guru can't coach around this offense, at least under it's current state. Shanny has to decide if he thinks he can fix this team quicker than his other choices. I can't speak for any of these guys. Shanny might want to have free reign to bring in all his own players or maybe he wants something that would take just a little tweaking like Dallas. I agree with you Push, HC candidates like Cohwer, Gruden or Shanahan are not as much concerned with the money as they are of having success. With that being said Buffalo in my opinion is not that far away from being a Playoff caliber football team with allot of high character players throughout the line up. When this team is healthy, its a handful to handle, at least in my opinion it is. Have a Happy Turkey day you Turkey and the same goes out to all of you Guys and Gals here on TSW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I agree with you Push, HC candidates like Cohwer, Gruden or Shanahan are not as much concerned with the money as they are of having success. With that being said Buffalo in my opinion is not that far away from being a Playoff caliber football team with allot of high character players throughout the line up. When this team is healthy, its a handful to handle, at least in my opinion it is. Have a Happy Turkey day you Turkey and the same goes out to all of you Guys and Gals here on TSW Thanks dog you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I disagree with your opinion that Ralph is known a very meddling owner? Where is your evidence? Snyder = meddling Ralph = absentee Let's say Shanahan, Cowher etal say no to Ralph for 10 mill per season? That right there signals the worst franchise in the NFL hands down. I don't' think anyone wants the job for several reasons. First off Ralph is known as a very meddling owner. Him suing Wade Phillips way back when didn't sit well with NFL personnel at the time either. Also the future of this team is in doubt. What coach wants to come to Buffalo and have Ralph possibly kick the bucket next year after moving his family up here? MANY things to consider when thinking of why big time Coaches may not come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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