ACor58 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Any GM with a set of marbles would like to be hired BEFORE the head coach is brought in. (Look at the mess in Cleveland). Ther names that are being dropped (Cowher, Shanahan, Holmgren) are good coaches but were never very good at doing both. I think the Bills should be thinking fooball guy first, coach second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 100% agree....fix top down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Any GM with a set of marbles would like to be hired BEFORE the head coach is brought in. (Look at the mess in Cleveland). Ther names that are being dropped (Cowher, Shanahan, Holmgren) are good coaches but were never very good at doing both. I think the Bills should be thinking fooball guy first, coach second. And you know that are are not how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Any GM with a set of marbles would like to be hired BEFORE the head coach is brought in. (Look at the mess in Cleveland). Ther names that are being dropped (Cowher, Shanahan, Holmgren) are good coaches but were never very good at doing both. I think the Bills should be thinking fooball guy first, coach second. The problem is that if you want those coaches, you are not going to be able to bring in that top-notch GM....They just cannot co-exist. If the Bills cannot hire any of these coaches, they need to then hire a excellent GM and let him bring in his HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 The problem is that if you want those coaches, you are not going to be able to bring in that top-notch GM....They just cannot co-exist. If the Bills cannot hire any of these coaches, they need to then hire a excellent GM and let him bring in his HC. Exactly. These big names all want total control. That's why the Bills are going about things the way they are. As Bill Parcells said, "If I'm going to cook the food, let me shop for the ingredients." Shanahan, Cowher and Holmgren all subscribe to that way of thinking as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 The problem is that if you want those coaches, you are not going to be able to bring in that top-notch GM....They just cannot co-exist. If the Bills cannot hire any of these coaches, they need to then hire a excellent GM and let him bring in his HC. that's the name of the game. Get a GM who knows football and how to put football talent together into a cohesive unit and how to hire a coach who can fulfill that vision. Then you have a fighting chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Any GM with a set of marbles would like to be hired BEFORE the head coach is brought in. (Look at the mess in Cleveland). Ther names that are being dropped (Cowher, Shanahan, Holmgren) are good coaches but were never very good at doing both. I think the Bills should be thinking fooball guy first, coach second. i agree, get a gm who is a football man and let him build the organization. one chef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hard to get one of those name coaches without offering personnel power, too. Most if not all of them will end up as coach/GM I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan74 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Any GM with a set of marbles would like to be hired BEFORE the head coach is brought in. (Look at the mess in Cleveland). Ther names that are being dropped (Cowher, Shanahan, Holmgren) are good coaches but were never very good at doing both. I think the Bills should be thinking fooball guy first, coach second. What if you are giving the next coach total control of football operations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 One of the good things about hiring a big name is they will bring all sorts of names with them. Any of these guys will have assistant coaches follow them and if they aren't the GM, they probably know of a solid GM that they can work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninFl Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Exactly. These big names all want total control. That's why the Bills are going about things the way they are. As Bill Parcells said, "If I'm going to cook the food, let me shop for the ingredients." Shanahan, Cowher and Holmgren all subscribe to that way of thinking as well. I don't think they all want to have a dual role. Just that they want to be able to have a strong influence. I'd be surprised if Holmgren wants another GM ride and Marty just wants a GM who will work with him. Some of them, like Cowher, just want to coach. Then again, I doubt that Parcells would consider a coaching position at this stage of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Any of the high profile coaches out there are going to be in charge of football operations. They aren't going to be taking any type of orders from a GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregonbillsfan Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 If we can get Bill Cowher, I'd let him hire the GM if that's what it takes to get him. That's the best guy for the job by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbuffalobob Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Yeah, right... Chef Donahoe... now he could cook. This team needs a Chef (to put his name on the line) and a Sous Chef (to actually do the cooking and boss around the cooks on the line), as well as a Front-House Manager (Russ Brandon). Otherwise, your just cooking at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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