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    Two Bills Drive "Draft Competition" - Prize is a Bills cap - Brian3488 is our winner!!!

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    9 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

    Age is definitely a negative. I’m not sure how much that impacts Lloyd’s ranking on the Bills board. Every team will grade age differently. Edmunds being 20 was a positive but it didn’t mean much for his on field play. There’s been little growth from rookie season. At 24 the worry is how much better can he get?

     

     I think I can see comparisons between Lloyd and Micah Parsons from a talent standpoint. That is going to get teams to fall in love.

     

    This makes no sense why a team who is in a super bowl window would willingly make themselves weaker and create a major hole that doesn't need to be created when they have a glaring need at CB and could use another WR. Not to mention losing picks to move up also.

    Deebo Samuel tells 49ers not to offer extension because he wants to be traded

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    7 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

     

    If Deebo is willing to play out this season without a new contract.............Gabe Davis for Deebo?

     

    Who says no?

     

    Niners would get a guy who many anticipate to break out like Samuel did last season..........and get him for two seasons.

     

    Bills get one season of a PROVEN star player in his walk year who flips the narrative about their league worst YAC ability.   

     

    Case in point........Stef Diggs had 3.2 YAC/R last season........Deebo had 10 YAC/R.

     

    If it's a match made in heaven then maybe they actually do retain Deebo and just keep shuttling vet min/rookies at WR3-WR4 for the next few years.

     

    They could still later address a long term WR2 alternative with a Davis-style vertical option in the draft.

     

    Then if they traded up with the Giants they maybe turn that pick into Evan Neal and get around to doing what they said was priority #1.........protecting Josh Allen.

     

     

    People talking about YAC just don't get it. The routes ran by the Bills WR were not designed with YAC in mind. Often times they were comebacks, sideline routes that took the receivers out of bounds on deep overs or scramble drill plays. The lack of YAC was a result of the routes they ran not due to issues with the receivers themselves. Won't make a difference who the WRs are if they run the same routes.

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    Would you still like JA if he was on another team?

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    On 4/23/2022 at 3:16 AM, LeGOATski said:

    I don't dislike other teams' players because they're good. It comes down to personality.

     

    For instance, I hate Brady because he's a douchebag.

     

    So no, I would not hate Josh if he were on another team. I'd still like. He might still be my favorite player, in fact. My favorite players during my 25 years of fandom have often been on other teams.

     

    Brady from all accounts is one of the most likeable and genuine people in the locker room and he knows everybody.

     

    Rodgers on the other hand definitely fits that description

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    Deebo Samuel tells 49ers not to offer extension because he wants to be traded

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    11 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

     

     

    He's not a RB.  He's never had more than 8 carries a game---and that began in WEEK 11.   That isn't running him into the ground in any real way.  6-8 carries a game next year downs't quite put him up there with, say, Zeke's 1650 carries in 6 years or, say, Cook's 1200 touches in only 5 years.  

     

    He's a WR who they ask to run a handful of times a game.  

     

     

    Then he doesn't really think he's being "run into the ground"--he just wants more money, which is fine.

     

    Perhaps his agents pointed out the extra wear and tear being put on him which made him rethink things in that regard because he never considered that point. 

    What is The Weakest Position on The Bills Roster That Pick 25 Would Instantly Make the Team Stronger ?

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    1 hour ago, Max Fischer said:


    You may be aware there are six additional rounds. 
     

     


    And what happens if Saffold (32), Bates (never started more than 4 games) or Morse lose weeks, or months?  The current depth is not comforting. 

     

    Expecting to find a starting corner to start from day one other than the first round is a putting a whole hell of a lot of faith in your scouting staff to be perfect and the board to fall to you properly. They better be 100% sure in that case and that's a near impossible ask.

     

     

    What is The Weakest Position on The Bills Roster That Pick 25 Would Instantly Make the Team Stronger ?

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    CB. Right now it's Dane Jackson and who knows if Tre isn't ready to go.

    1 minute ago, Max Fischer said:

    OL. Not enough depth if starters miss significant time. After Jameson Williams, Zion Johnson might be my top choice amongst realistic choices. 

     

    Hard to justify a player that sits on the bench at 25 waiting for an injury when we have a starting CB spot open.

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    Deebo Samuel tells 49ers not to offer extension because he wants to be traded

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    2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

     

     

    Stop with this already!  lol..  This guy is 3 years in and he has a career total under 250 touches.  He's one of the lowest mileage 4th year WRs or RBs in then league.

     

    And "make him happy"?  Why, it was just a few months ago, at the Pro Bowl, where he was absolutely giddy over his role in the 49ers Offense:

     

    “We’ve got a new position,” Samuel told sideline reporter Lisa Salters on the ESPN broadcast. “It’s called wide back. Wide receiver playing running back.”

     

    Now they are "running him into the ground".    Come on..

     

     

    Apparently he must have rethought things because that isn't his attitude anymore

    Deebo Samuel tells 49ers not to offer extension because he wants to be traded

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    3 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

    It's gotta be that. Why else would he say don't even offer me an extension. I respect him even more if that's what happened. Dude wants to have a longer career, and doesn't care what the contract offer is.

    That's the complete opposite of the "find a new sport" take

     

    I just find it so odd the two sides couldn't find a compromise that worked. It's not like he sucks as a WR and it's not like you just magically find guys like him...even if they draft one in the first round, no guarantee they come close to his production. Dude put up 1400 yards and over 18 YPC

     

    There has to be something we don't know yet because it honestly makes no sense.

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    Deebo Samuel tells 49ers not to offer extension because he wants to be traded

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    7 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

    Normally I agree but I don't blame him one bit for wanting a contract now. He was used as an absolute work horse last year for $2m. You see guys like CMC have these types of seasons and their bodies are permanently broke.

    The way SF used him the last half of the year certainly looks like that's their plan this whole next season. I'm sure he loves getting the ball, but I'm not letting them run my body into the ground for $4m this year, then cut me loose before my 2nd contract. Pay the man accordingly cause he does not look like he'll see a 3rd contract

     

    Dude is a freaking baller...so good at running with the ball in his hands and YAC and he is built like a beast.

     

    If I was going to be run into the ground like the 49ers were doing with him I would demand a new contract also and would probably be very wary of the toll it would take on my body if they continued to do it...perhaps the 49ers told him they weren't planning on changing his role and he balked at it and told them he wanted out then.

     

    Seems like a pretty dumb hill to die on for Shanahan tho...you just don't magically replace a guy like that, it's not like he wasn't very effective as a WR where he could reluctantly agree to just play him there and make him happy.

     

    Sounds like the two sides just had no compromise and it's just really weird to me.

     

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    Deebo Samuel tells 49ers not to offer extension because he wants to be traded

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    13 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

    Weird that if this is the issue they couldnt work something out. Express your concerns (which i think are valid), ask to keep it under a certain number per game, or limit them to red zone.  Seems dumb to let 1400 receiving yards out the door for 350 rushing yards.

     

    Edit: looking at his stat line he had 8 rushing Tds. Anybody watch him enough to know if most of those carries were coming in RZ?

     

    No, a lot of them were outside...dude was a fantastic runner when he had the ball.

     

    EDIT: take that back...it looks like half were from inside the redzone and the others were from inside the 30.

     

    https://youtu.be/LO60pr5UmOI

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    Isiah McKenzie as a Returner

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    I mean I prefer the edge of your seat returns by Stevenson where he runs into his own blockers every time and ends up in crazy positions when he gets tackled and you hold your breath hoping he doesn't fumble, then afterward on replay wonder how the hell he held onto the ball.

     

    Rumor: Bills want to move up in draft, may move a veteran or two to accomplish it

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    On 4/17/2022 at 1:11 PM, Mango said:


    Drew Brees had 12 seasons with NO where he played at least 15 regular season games. 6 of those NO was .500 or worse. The guy is a first ballot hall of fame. 
     

    It isn’t a sure thing to make the playoffs with a top 5 QB, especially when you kick the salary cap can down the road. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t take huge issue with what the Bills are doing with this window. But it shouldn’t be lost on anybody that this is also a risk going forward. 

     

    The risk of kicking the can down the road is significantly less risky when the cap will be going up roughly $100 million over the next 5 years

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    Tre’s recovery?

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    10 minutes ago, Paul Costa said:

    Of the several people you know that have recovered 100% In a 6-8 month period are #1 CB’s in the NFL? I’m guessing Tre’s day job is a little more stressful on the repaired ACL than most people. To recover in 6-8 months to go back to a desk job is very different than going back to coving Tyrik Hill in the opener. 

     

    Adrian Peterson came back in like 6 months and ran for over 2K yards

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