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57 minutes ago, jwhit34 said:
At first I resisted clicking on Jerry Sullivan's latest article, "Josh Allen offers hope that makes Bills fans unburdened by past scars." But I did, and am glad I did. I have been reading his work for decades and like many here at TBD have and so many times just shake my head after reading his columns. He's a good writer but there's something missing in his work.
Today I think I found it: He doesn't get it. For as long as he has lived and worked in the area, he really doesn't understand the community.
Case in point: the following excerpt from the column:
That’s it. Once you have the franchise quarterback, all things are possible. Allen has allowed Bills fans to rise above the old fatalism. Sure, the loss to the Chiefs added another chapter to the chronicle of woe. But if anything, it made people more certain Allen would eventually win the big one, and maybe more than one.
It beats the alternative — trying to convince themselves that a dysfunctional organization with a parade of flawed quarterbacks might actually shock the world and make a title run, when it became yet another heroic run to 7-9 or 6-10.
Anyone who grew up during that 17-year drought must feel envious of those kids in the Allen jerseys today. They probably want to grab them by the collar and say, ‘You have no idea how good you have it! I suffered through Losman and Manuel and Edwards and Taylor and the bad Bledsoe, and Fitz at his worst.’
The bolded sentence is what he doesn't understand about us and Buffalo. Us older Bills fans are not "envious of those kids in the Allen jerseys today". We love seeing "those kids in the Allen jerseys today". Buffalonians stay in Buffalo because they love the area, love the people, and despite the challenges the area has had economically, weather, etc., part of that is our bond and our perpetual optimism makes that bond even stronger. Parents stay in the area and raise their kids in Buffalo because they think it's a great place to be and think their kids will have it even better than they did, and they want that for their kids.
And that goes for the Bills and their fans. I am so excited for the next generation to experience hopefully a great run by this current iteration of the Bills, and how cool it will be for all those kids with Allen jerseys. Zero envy.
I spent the first half of my life in Buffalo and then moved to Rochester when I got married, and I love Rochester but Buffalo was, is and always will be special to me. It will always be a part of me, helped make me who I am today. The biggest thing I miss are the people. Almost 35 years later I still have my season tickets and love going to the games. I can't wait to one day celebrate a Super Bowl win with our kids, one who is a Bills fanatic.
After all these years, it is too bad that Sullivan has not captured maybe the key component of what makes this community and Bills fans tick, and I find that as the missing piece in his writing.
I agree with a lot of your statement...he is an outsider that tries to fit in but doesn't know how.
I was born in 75 so I was lucky enough to miss most of the futility of the 70s and witness the rise of the Kelly era team in my teens so I have good memories of them.
I think this era in Bills history will be better than that one when it's all said and done...Allen is going to be a first ballot HOFer and is far more talented than Kelly.
I also don't see Beane going all hot head and getting himself fired halfway into it.
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6 hours ago, John from Riverside said:
Im telling you....Shakur is not just a slot...been saying it since he was drafted
That's what the Bills said too but everyone wants to act like all he can do is play slot and we have no backup to Davis.
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26 minutes ago, The Wiz said:
Vontae Mack?
No matter what!
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When is the Return of the Mack?
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On 8/4/2022 at 1:13 PM, Royale with Cheese said:
Miller will definitely help Oliver. I see Oliver around 8 sacks this year.
They are physically about the same but Donald is more fluid which makes him nearly unstoppable. Great first step, strength, fluid and great hands.
Oliver is first step and power right now. If his hands get much better, he will be much more dangerous.
Donald is unblockable...it's like trying to block water or sand...it just moves away from you and you look silly
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Sources describe it as "bad tendonitis"...I would have to say his week 1 availability is in doubt and even if he plays he will likely be less than 100%.
They have the best of the best in terms of treatments and medical staff and trainers looking at it and working on it 24/7 so perhaps my experiences with it would be a lot different and would have healed much quicker if I had the same, but I don't see how he is back to normal by week 1...
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About to be stashed on IR.
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1 hour ago, Southtown Tommy said:
This is a big concern for the Rams - he must be having alot of pain. Tennis elbow, golfers elbow is extremely painful and it takes alot of time to fully heal.
I've had tennis/golf elbow from lifting weights and it's excruciating...also it becomes very weak...
I remember struggling to close the trunj with that arm
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I don't think Moss is going anywhere
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3 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:
I think it's pretty easy to argue that Watson sitting out last year was a de facto suspension. If Watson had never received a massage or if these allegations never surfaced what are the odds he would've played last year? I'm putting it at 100% (it might not have been in Houston, but it would've been easy to trade him). An established franchise QB sitting out for an entire season would have been unprecedented.
Sexual harassment = / = sexual assault
Both are scummy (not to mention illegal), but assault is more serious than harassment. What Snyder did is not a great comparison. Kraft and his 100% consensual rub and tug are not a great comparison either.
Yeah, that argument won't hold water because we are dealing in hypotheticals. He CHOSE not to play starting by demanding a trade and saying he was never going to play for Houston again, and decided to sit out. The team is under no obligation to do anything other than pay him.
So no, there was no suspension, as it was of his own doing.
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Just now, MiltonWaddams said:
I understand that it is the union's job to protect its members. However, word is that the NFLPA is going to sue the NFL if/when they levy a heavier suspension/fine upon Watson. The union then comes across as condoning the individuals actions, thus setting a dangerous precedent...or does it? Do they just intend a show of force without real action so as to say "we tried"? What a calamity.
And that will likely be thrown out of court rather quickly. They have no real basis for challenging it based on the findings of the judge who concludes that Watson is a scumbag.
Just now, Process said:Just to make sure I understand correctly, the NFL is appealing.....to itself?
What a system.
Or to someone Goodell appoints...likely himself
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Just now, Logic said:
I see the "12 games" guess thrown around a lot today, and it seems like a likely outcome.
The sad thing is that even THAT is not enough.
Nothing less than a full season's suspension feels like enough.
The dude's actions and his violations of the personal conduct policy were pretty egregious.Why? Goodell is judge, jury and executioner now and see no logical reason the NFL doesn't impose the penalty they want, with the NFLPA having not a leg to stand on to challenge it in court.
1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:They would have to argue that based on the findings of the arbitrator the level of increase from Goodell is irrational and therefor not a good faith adherence to the terms of the CBA and therefore is essentially a breach of the employment contract.
One suspects the basis of the irrationality claim will be a comparison to the non punishment of owners accused of similar given that is what they used in argument to the arbitrator.
It is an uphill climb but that is their route. I agree with others who has said that the court will start from a place where it is reluctant to intervene.
I think it would be hard to conclude based on the factual findings of the investigation that Goodell's behavior was irrational. Watson may never play another down in the NFL again.
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11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Agreed, they don't. The bar is high. You have to demonstrate that one party has acted irrationally on the basis of the agreement.
But simply by virtue of words in a CBA you cannot oust the courts. If they feel that bar has been reached they can intervene.
The NFLPA said they would argue that Watson already served a full year suspension because he didn't play last year but that is nonsense because it was HIM that refused to take the field and said he wouldn't play another snap for the Texans even after they bent over backwards to try and mend the fences with him, and he still got paid anyways, so that argument doesn't hold any water. Their boat has a giant hole in the middle of it and they are trying to bail water but the ship is sinking fast.
5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:I don’t even know what grounds they have to sue? They agreed to the CBA that shows he has the final decision.
Claiming Watson already served a full year suspension which makes no sense since he was the one who refused to ever suit up for Houston again, not the team imposing the suspension, and he still got paid. They have no grounds. It's a bluff and one that will end badly for the NFLPA
3 minutes ago, mannc said:Snyder was accused of groping one woman in 2009, an allegation he denied...most definitely not worse than what Watson was accused of—and what Sue Robinson concluded Watson actually did. This sort of “whataboutism” isn’t going to save Watson.
You are also forgetting about the systemic ingrained culture of sexual harassment that was reported to be there, cheerleaders having pantie shots taken of them without their permission up their skirts and other pictures taken(from I believe changing rooms) that ended up in an internal calendar they made with them on it..again without their permission.
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1 minute ago, Virgil said:
I'm confused, so are we allowed to reach out to these women for massages yet or not?
Watson isn't...he must use a team appointed massage therapist...and she must weigh 300 lbs or more and have a light moustache. 🤣
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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:
12 seems to be the number that goodell would not go below in order to settle, and I could be wrong but I thought the nflpa only threatened to sue if they ruled 1 year. So 12 could do it.
Let them sue...the precedent in courts does not favor them being willing to overturn collectively bargained agreements included in there. They know it's basically a bluff because they know there is a 99.5% chance the case would be dismissed.
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5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
You cannot oust the courts by virtue of an employment contract. Now the bar for the courts actually finding that, given the wording of the CBA, it has any authority to overrule is very high. The NFLPA and Watson have a fight on to reach that bar. But an injunction for interim relief to allow the case to be heard is a possibility.
That said, even if it goes that way, I don't see Watson suiting up week 1 under any circumstances. In the circumstances where he has injucted the NFL and the case is pending even Cleveland wouldn't be stupid enough to put him out there, surely? And Goodell has the exempt list available to him.
The more likely scenario is if Goodell goes to a year Watson goes to the courts for an expedited hearing so that is resolved in time for him not to miss more than the original 6 games in the event he is succsssful.
My gut still says 12 games is where this is ending up.
The courts don't like to make decisions related to collectively bargained agreements when what they are being asked to decide has already been agreed to in there by both parties. It would likely be dismissed if the suit was brought to court, and likely fairly quickly.
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25 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
I don't understand what indefinite means in this context. He has settled all but one of the cases.
Indefinite means the league will review his situation on a year to year basis I believe, like they did with Josh Gordon. Basically means he is out for this year and then they will review it again next year and determine if he is able to play or not.
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33 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:
Probably 9 to 10 games. Split the difference in what both sides recommended
NFL wants a full year, it's been reported numerous times. I doubt they are going to split the difference when Goodell is the one making the decision.
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NFL is appealing....Watson likely done for the year.
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Damn he is going to make it to 100...exceptional genetics
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1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:
You see all women in the world the same based on what you witnessed as a DJ in a club when you were in their 20’s? Wow.I’ve bounced at strip clubs before. I don’t view all the women in the world as them.
Quit denying it. You’re scorned at the highest level.
See...this is what you are missing. I don't see "all" women this way, I simply understand that all women are capable of this given the right stimulus and right situation. She is never yours, it's only your turn. Some are more resistant to it than others. Ever see what happens at a bachelorette party? I've seen probably hundreds in my days in the clubs, and suffice to say there are women who are "goody two shoes" normally that will do some pretty wild things in these type of moments. Of course these are never discussed ever again...kinda like "Whatever happens at a bachelorette party stays at a bachelorette party" type thing. Although I was at a party thrown by friends once where a friend of a couple that had been married 6 or 7 years got a little too tipsy and blurted out something about the male stripper she banged at the bachelorette party in front of everyone as they had been talking about that night(obviously everyone else gave a tame version of what they did). He filed for divorce a few days later. But yeah, you are right. This stuff is so rare and never happens. I've got a bridge in Kansas to sell you with oceanfront property...interested?
I would place money I've slept with more hot women than 98% of posters on the forum, so if that's what scorned is than OK, sure. Most nights I had my pick of which woman I wanted to go home with and did zero work making that happen, they did the work for me. Club DJ is like rock star on a lesser level, you should know having bounced there...which is also a job with high return rates on getting women. But keep pushing your blue pill narrative. One day you'll wake up and realize it was all just a dream, right? You don't believe in any of this stuff. 😅
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1 hour ago, teef said:
dude, this screams of a man who has been burned many times. if your reference point of women is what you saw in clubs in your 20s, you need to re-evaluate.
Ignorance is bliss my man.
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Great article.
My only concern is that Dorsey is not as adept as Daboll at making sure the gameplans have new wrinkles weekly that make it hard for defenses to key in on things.
The offense still is going to good either way but a lot is riding on Dorsey being highly capable and that is yet to be seen.
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We are the better team every week no matter who we play as long as Allen is healthy. I honestly don't care about it. Go handle your business.