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    Training Camp practice 7/29

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    1 hour ago, GaryPinC said:

     

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    Can you really say anything about how injury rate affected the Texans in 2020 or did they just suck regardless?  There's no clear trend with increasing injury, it's just a cluster of spread data with San Fran and Dallas as outliers.  Not like it follows the drawn line in any way, hinting it's an incorrect analysis.

     

    "Right now, few public metrics capture the impact that injuries can have on a team’s on-field performance. "

     

    https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff-data-study-war-adjusted-injuries-lost

     

    The point of the article is to use Bayesian statistics to predict how much teams W-L records have been affected by injuries and ultimately attempt to predict how records will be affected by sustained injuries in-season.  It's a valiant but seemingly feeble attempt as they tie it to pre-season records.  Gotta start somewhere though.

     

    I can find zero basis for the "we're due for a rash of injuries" you seem to feel the data supports.  They do make the point with a chart that injuries are random and unpredictable so I guess you can claim karma but they don't deal with that here.  Injuries have 3rd least affected our W-L record compared to preseason.  Great.

     

    I feel like their time would be better spent comparing injury rates between established teams with consistent coaching and training staffs versus teams with high turnover of personnel and/or coaches year-to-year.

     

    I would guess poor training staffs and players being out of position or confused due to inexperience and/or new Coordinators would have the biggest impact on injury rate above baseline.

     

    The Bills injury rate has been lower BECAUSE of the emphasis the Bills place on cutting edge Sports Science, tracking players movement and giving them rest once they exceed a certain threshold, ensuring they receive state of the art treatment and playing it safe with returning if the player is susceptible to re-injury, and having a world class training facility that no other team can boast of.

     

    There is a reason the Bills have been in the top 5 for fewest man games lost to injury every year McDermott has been here and it stems from making sure they are doing everything possible to support resting players properly before they reach a point where the soft tissue injuries are likely to start happening, ensuring they are receiving optimal treatments to support their recovery and not trying to rush them back from injury too soon.

     

    This isn't luck, it's by design.

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    Who do you consider to be the most overrated player(s) at their position in NFL history?

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    4 hours ago, Herc11 said:

     

     

    Exactly! Anyone quoting the stats on his football cards and using that as an argument isn't looking at the entire picture at all. Speaking of being the fastest on the field, Bo's 40-yard at the combine even has legend around it. Some claim he ran 3.9, one scout actually said he timed him at 4.12 seconds. 

     

    If piss poor medicine didn't ruin his career, he may have been the one to beat Walter Payton's career numbers. 

     

    and YES, Bo was 10x the RB Emmitt Smith was. Emmitt had two things going for him, the O-line and longevity. He played for 15 years, which we all know is ultra-rare at RB. That was his specialty, not speed, not elusiveness, not power. Bo was a powerback with insane speed especially with his size. Put him in Dallas all those years as a feature back. That would of been wild.

     

    I still watch that run against Seattle on Monday night that he runs up the tunnel and can't believe how he blew by the safety that had the angle on him and a 30 yard head start. One of the most amazing things I have ever seen on a football field in terms of disbelief that I just saw that.

    4 hours ago, wppete said:

    Ray Lewis….. A loud mouth. 

     

    You can't be serious. 

    Chase Edmonds was “very, VERY” close to signing with the Bills this offseason

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    18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

    Why would any RB want to come to Buffalo if they have options and are trying to maximize future earning potential? It’s like the opposite of when FA WRs didn’t want to come. Of course he likes the fit with McDaniel! He wants a run based offense.

    Probably none. It’s not that big of a deal, teams are aware of the tax differences and make up for it in other ways. Plus it’s only relevant for their game checks that they play in NYS. 

     

    The craziness with taxes is mindblowing...no way you could do it on your own, definitely need a professional to help with it, and California is far worse for taxes than NYS is.

    Across the League Camp Injury Thread

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    7 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said:

    Justyn Ross who was a receiver many fans wanted as he was projected as a 2nd rounder by many services, but fell out of the draft entirely. He had supposedly looked good in mini-camp. Another tough break for a kid who going into April thought he would be wealthy.

    https://www.kshb.com/sports/chiefs-wr-justyn-ross-out-for-season-with-foot-injury

     

    Sounds like another Clemson WR we know really well with multiple foot injuries

    Heaviest "Big Man TD's" in NFL History (Sam Adams #1)

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    22 hours ago, BigDingus said:

     

    Thought this was an amusing video, so figured I'd share just for fun. Didn't realize Sam Adams weighing in at 350 lbs was the heaviest pick-6/TD ever though, nor did I realize he also did it with the Seahawks (but his Bills return was 12 yards further, so it's better)! 🤣

     

    That might have been the all time greatest play by play in the history of the NFL also...just everything about it is amazing.

    Julio to Tampa

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    2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

    If he's healthy definitely gives the Bucs another weapon and looks like he's essentially replacing Antonio Brown's role in Tampa.

     

    Going to see a lot of other vets who are chasing a ring sign with contenders soon like our old friend and rapper Beasely.

     

    He is never healthy anymore, that's the problem

     

    14 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

    I don’t really trust that part of the process, we have seen too many times where they go into the year at key positions incredibly thin and it bites them.  I can’t see a plan, you can’t count on a 5th round rookie to take over, Crowder is a slot guy, and there’s no veteran depth at all.  It looks like the ole “we’ll cross that bridge if we get there” plan.  I hope we don’t get there.  I’m sure they have Sanders on speed dial, and probably have him lined up to bring on the practice squad late in the year for a playoff run (if he’s still trying to play for a ring).   They rely entirely too much on Allen to do it all.  I’m not saying Julio was the answer as he had a really down year last year and I don’t know if he’s ever coming back to the old form, but somebody like him would sure be a nice safety net.  Just getting digs an in series rest takes away any credible threat out there for the D.

     

    Sanders was good early and then once he got hurt and came back he was a waste of space out there taking snaps from Davis.

     

    Davis is going to put up 1K+ yards this year. All he ever does is make plays when he gets in there, even as a rookie.

     

    I'll trust the guys responsible for building the best roster in football more than the guys posting on message boards drinking beer for a living.

    Training Camp Practice 7/27

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    34 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

    I absolutely love that Elam is getting to get NFL ready, by covering one of the best route runners in the NFL. Covering our opponents number 2 receivers will be a refreshing break for him.

     

    That being said, I am a bit concerned with Elam being a bit too physical at times in his coverage. If he doesn't get flagged for it, that would be great, but he seems to straddle that line between great coverage and illegal contact. 

     

    He is adjusting, going to need time to learn. DB coaches are probably telling him to be physical right now.

    4 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

    I've always been impressed with Neal-- super versatile player. I believe that he could have developed into a starting  nickel had he gotten the experience. He's always been a solid backup, IMO. He plays with a fierceness.

    Yeah Neal definitely fits this D...plays as an almost LB in the big nickel at times and has some pretty good coverage skills when called on at times. Dude definitely likes laying the lumber too.

     

    Kyler Murray Contract

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    1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said:

    This sounds similar to the time the Oakland Raiders gave Jamarcus Russell a tape and told him to study it.  They then asked him if he had watched the tape & he told them he did.  They knew he was lying because they had given him a blank tape as a test-he failed.  

     

    Yeah heard that on WGR yesterday driving home...story was they knew he wasn't studying so they gave him a few blank DVDs and told him to study them and come back and let them know what plays he would like to take out that wouldn't work and what ones he would like to keep.  Came back the next day and said "All of them should work good".

    22 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

    Watch him have some nerd write a script to make it look like he's doing it.

     

     

    Hey now...I prefer to be called Dork :)

    Bills sign G Jordan Simmons

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    1 hour ago, Don Otreply said:

    Concerning Saffold & rib injuries, rib injuries can take a considerable amount of time to heal, any doctors in the house that could narrow down the average time for a couple or few ribs to heal up enough fora NFL linemen to be able to play effectively???


    Go Bills!!!

     

    Depends on what type of injury too...although if I am not mistaken don't guys play through rib injuries during games all the time through injections for pain and flak jackets?  Perhaps they would simply rather it heal up properly in time for the season than try and rush him back and turn it into something that lingers longer than it needs to or opens him up for potential for injuring them further.

    Training Camp practice 7/24

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    12 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

    He did take one back against Miami in 2020. But as others have mentioned it’s everything before he secures the ball that’s the problem. If he fixes all that (big IF) I’m fine with him

    I was wondering by same thing. 

    I agree with @John from Riverside  let them run. We’re gonna run 70%+ nickel cause we usually run 90%+ nickel. We have been decent against the run except for the super big runs. I think we get to more 4-3 (still not that much though) but it takes time as Bernard has to show he can handle the responsibility. Milano took a while to become a starter over Humber. But I get your excitement for Bernard. 

     

    The problem is those type of mistakes tend to resurface at the biggest times of the game usually, not just with him but with players that have issues like that with ball security.

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