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    Revisiting my first Josh Allen evaluation after his first preseason game in 2018

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    1 hour ago, NickelCity said:

    Safe to say those of us who follow the Bills closely remember the TD in the corner when Josh fired an absolute laser between two defenders. First time i had to watch a replay to actually see the ball. That opened a lot of eyes. 

     

    I reread that thread yesterday as I got a notification about it too, and I remember your post. 

     

    I distinctly remember Allen's rookie season where the ball got there so fast sometimes that the cameraman didn't get there until after it was already caught. Took at least half the season to get up to speed and track his throws properly.

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    Judge Sue Robinson recommends 6 game suspension for Watson; NFL will appeal

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    1 hour ago, Chaos said:

    I will be surprised if the original decision is not upheld. This new system allows the NFL to strut around all righteous, while at the same time ending up with another revenue drawing star QB playing.  Best of both worlds. I expect the appeal is simpy a marketing charade. 

     

    No. Not by a longshot 

    20 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:


    that union agreed to this process, mind you. Their only recourse after the appeal decision is made is federal court. 

     

    Which will likely be thrown out of court quickly.

    59 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said:

    Can Watson be suspended indefinitely or does it have to be specific number of games?

     

    Yes he can be. I believe Gordon was suspended indefinitely at one point

     

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    Case Keenum Undercover

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    That was freaking hilarious...this team is full of jokesters that work their asses off

    42 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

    Couldn’t quite place the accent though…😆

     

    That was the West Virginia moonshine accent from the hollers

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    Final Roster Predictions WRs

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    Posted · Edited by Big Turk

    Diggs 

    Davis 

    McKenzie 

    Shakir 

    Crowder 

    Kumerow

     

    I think they might keep 7 if either Austin or Hodges forces themselves on the roster...

     

    If not, I think Crowder might be a surprise cut for either Austin or Hodges although I don't like that move. Crowder albeit hurt a lot is a very good WR in this league. Would not want to see him go somewhere else and put up 700-800 yards.

     

    Stevenson gets stashed on IR

    QB rankings from 1-32 - JA #1

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    Kinda crazy how we've gone from all the national heads saying Allen is becoming a superstar but not in Mahomes league yet to Allen is better than Mahomes because he is harder to defend and can do more than Mahomes within a single offseason...

     

    BTW, I agree with the opinions now...Allen might be the most unstoppable QB in NFL history. He does virtually everything well with an elite arm and elite running skills.

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    Beasley on Buffalo: "Things changed within the organization. It was time for me to move on."

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    I mean of course things changed...they HAD to. 

     

    He got here when they had just made the playoffs after a 17 year drought and after drafting a rookie QB who they hoped would take his game to the next level but didn't know how things would pan out...he played well at times and not well at others, but showed lots of flashes.

     

    Now they are considered the best roster in football, the odds on favorite to Houston the Lombardi Trophy and Allen as the favorite for MVP.

     

    If things DIDN'T change from the time he got here until now then there would be something really wrong.

    Beasley on Buffalo: "Things changed within the organization. It was time for me to move on."

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    8 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

     

     

    Nothing changed.. Obviously he had his issues with Covid lockdowns and many others did not share his feelings on it to the point they would publicly bring it up.

    In other words he lost that team 1st attitude and turned his position with the team and fans into a pulpit, and it did not resonate to the majority. 

     

    Yeah, I mean every team wanted their played vaccinated because it gave them a competitive advantage. Why work that hard all year round to get one only to give it away over something stupid like that?

     

    He still doesn't seem to get it.

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    Training Camp practice 8/7

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    51 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

     

     

    The Bills OL was the worst pass blocking unit in the league for much of the season and ultimately finished 29th in pressures allowed..........the final month of the season where the Bills ran Allen like a RB is the only thing that saved them from being dead last.

     

    Poor blocking was the biggest culprit in their stunningly disappointing 7-6 start to the season.

     

    There is no sugar coating it.

     

    Sacks allowed are a stat that the QB himself plays a big part in.........the pressure allowed is not.

     

    Pressures that play into Allen's hands as he avoids many of them, buys time and then makes plays down field as it turns into a backyard play or takes off and runs for 20 yards.

     

    He was also the most effective passer against the blitz last year.

     

    Training Camp practice 8/7

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    15 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

     

     

    The Bills have fielded quite a few bad offenses when they had good defenses during the drought..............playing against a more talented defense than they face on Sundays has never moved the needle for those offenses though.    When an OL can't block anyone consistently..........putting them against a Von Miller only compounds the issue.   The gains are to be had in places where the difference in talent lined up across from each other is modest.    A guy like Quessenberry for instance isn't going to be sharpened by playing against Miller.........Quessenberry lined up against good pass rushers in practice in TN and then allowed the most sacks in the league in games.   

     

    None of those teams you mentioned had future first ballot HOFer Josh Allen playing QB.

     

    For as bad as people want to say the OLine was last year, Allen was sacked the same amount as the year before...26 times, in one extra game.

     

    That's a very low number. Like 1.5 per game.

     

    People need to stop overreacting to what they see in training camp when they are intentionally moving players all over the line to cross train for flexibility and see who can play where if they need to reshuffle things during the year or have injury issues.

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    Training Camp practice 8/7

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    35 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:


    So everyone else gushing about Allen and the offense today and Thad still not impressed and not to his expectations still.
     

    Has anyone ever seen Thad Brown and Nick Wright in the same place at the same time?  🤔

     

     

    Perhaps he forgets that against every other team the offense will look amazing since our defense is so good?

    Now is the time: Get that veteran CB

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    40 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

     

    I agree with development here of our DBs - but they've been lucky to have 2 cornerstone safeties to rely on for 5 seasons now.  AND an elite CB1 that takes pressure off. 

     

    Our DBs after the White injury played against ONE elite offense up until the KC game and got embarrassed in both - the other being Tampa.

     

    We played whatever the hell Carolina lined up with, Atlanta (both at home), the Jets, Patriots twice, and then a third time in the playoffs.  

     

    We can say our CB development has been very good - Taron and Wallace being 2 of them.  I like Dane, McCloud, and the promise of the rookies.   

     

    But we absolutely cannot say that this secondary can hold its own without Tre - right now.  Not with the first 7 games we play - no way. 

     

    If we go 3-3 going into Green Bay and get White back by then, I legit think I'd take that.  The 3 toughest games being at Rams, at KC, and at Baltimore.  

     

     

    BUT if the front 7 is nasty, that's the game changer. 

     

     

    We can always just outscore teams.

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    Now is the time: Get that veteran CB

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    Considering how well they are able to coach up late round picks or UDFAs to come in and not miss a beat(Dane Jackson, Levi Wallace, and Cam Lewis), perhaps they feel they can just coach up the guys they already have there now like they have the past several years?

     

    Apparently their 6th round CB is playing very well at camp...so well he was getting some time with the 1s and was holding his own against Diggs.

    Darius Slayton

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    1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

    Can’t disagree with you on some of those CBs and Milano… I think that is a tribute to the defensive system they play in, specifically for the CBS…. That being said, what exactly have Neal, Johnson, and Can Lewis done? Ray Ray McCloud? He’s a scrub.… Davis I think is going to have a break out year but isn’t there yet, but again, I think expectations for Shakir to develop into a top receiver in the league are way too high given the round he was selected and his draft pedigree.

     

    Neal is a core ST player and has a role in the Big Nickel packages and as a CB when needed and has filled in very nicely. Johnson same thing on ST, since our safeties never come off the field he hasn't gotten much of a chance on D. Lewis, I believe started a game for us last year and played well. The point is, none of these players look out of place or that the moment is too big for them when they get their chance they just go in and perform at a high level usually. That's good coaching and a scheme that allows players to slide in and not be overwhelmed, and obviously the players working hard and studying hard to make sure they perform at the level expected.

     

    McCloud is the Steelers punt returner and plays on offense as well at times as the 4th WR I believe.

     

    I don't expect Shakir to develop into a starting WR but he certainly has the potential to and many were shocked he was still on the board as he had a 2nd or 3rd round grade on many boards

    50 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

    Who does Slayton kick off the team? The Bills are fine at WR. If god forbid Diggs or Davis go down for the season we can push to sign OBJ when he's healthy or bring Sanders back. It's crazy to think some other team's castoff is going to replace the production of our top 2 WRs.

     

    I doubt he would displace Austin who by all accounts has performed very well at camp.

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    Darius Slayton

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    24 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

    Reminds me of the drought days when people thought those late round/undrafted picks would develop into solid starters and then go into list the very few that actually did.😅

     

    By all accounts Shakir looks good in camp, but people are getting way ahead of themselves, I think the expectation should be solid contributor considering he’s got Allen throwing him the ball…. but a Diggs like career is asking A LOT of the guy and setting expectations way too high IMO. 

     

    Dane Jackson, Taron Johnson, Matt Milano, Gabe Davis, Siran Neal, Jaquan Johnson, Cam Lewis, Levi Wallace(UDFA), Wyatt Teller(in CLE), Ray Ray McCloud(in PIT)

     

    They have a plethora of players that have developed into very solid players if not starters.

     

    I am sure I am forgetting some.

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