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  1. There is no known conduct. That's a futile argument. What if Marshawn found a girl and threw his keys to his buddy and said "take my car." What if Marshawn was totally wasted and asleep in the passenger seat and didn't really know what happened except what his friend told him. Chances are, with what we now know, that he knows something. But you can't suspend someone for "unknown conduct". Pacman was suspended for throwing a bag of cash up in the air and starting a riot where someone was killed.

     

    Exactly...the NFLPA would appeal this within a minute of a suspension being handed out...

  2. In terms of performance I wouldn't consider any of them "losses" but in terms of playing time, all three contributed significantly and could thereby be considered "losses" as someone will have to step up and fill their roles. Granted a warm body could probably contribute at least as well as two of the three, but still...

     

    Well, part of that can be attributed to the fact we had so many injuries last year as well, although Triplett was the starter on the DLine, which doesn't day much seeing how the DL got shredded last year...

  3. This may all be true. The problem is that the commissioner looks at more than the law. He considers the manner in which the player resolves the issue. If marshawn hides behind the law and then is found guilty or is found to be obstructing the criminal investigation in some way, old Roger is gonna punish him for that.

     

    It is NOT possible to obstruct an investigation by invoking a constitutional right to not incriminate yourself. There is no hiding behind anything going on here. He has a right to not talk, and he is using that right. The burden of proof lies with the prosecution. Lynch doesn't need to prove anything. That is the whole reason someone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of their peers. The law does not state that you are guilty until you prove your innocence...that harkens back to the days of the inquisition.

     

    Also I am pretty sure Goodell would not be silly enough to try and suspend a player based on the only evidence being that his car was found to be involved. The NFLPA would have a field day with that appeal...

  4. Chasing the Pats*

     

    In the Bills section he writes the following:

     

    Key losses: CB Kiwaukee Thomas (cut), DT Larry Tripplett (cut), TE Michael Gaines (Lions).

     

    I guess he felt like he had to write something, but that's kind of ridiculous. Since when do we consider players the team "fired" key losses?

     

    yeah, I wouldn't consider any of them key losses....

     

    Now last year, they could have made the argument key losses were Fletcher and Clements...at least they were considered above average for their positions in the league...not just a guy that could likely be replaced with a late day draft pick and not miss a beat....

  5. He has no obligation to provide evidence to the police at all, zero. The right to remain silent wouldn't be much of a right if they could charge you with a bunch of crimes for exercising it.

     

    As an atty, for what it is worth, my total guess would be that the police don't know and can't prove who was behind the wheel and they want to interview Lynch hoping that he will give him the proof they need that either he or someone else was driving. Another guess would be that they do have some proof that he was driving but aren't quite positive and want to make sure he doesn't have any proof that it was really some one else before they charge him. His atty probably doesn't know either way and is gambling that if they could have arrested him on what they have, they would have already done so. The fact that they haven't could be a sign that they don't have enough proof. If that is the case, Lynch's best play is to exercise his right to remain silent. The file would eventually be closed for lack of evidence.

     

    In the end, these kind of cases often end up turning on circumstantial evidence. Its his car, right? He didn't loan it out to anyone, right? It wasn't reported stolen, right? He offers no alibi, right?, There was no one staying with him, right? etc. etc.

    This kind of proof sometimes makes it to a jury and sometimes doesn't. No hard and fast rule as to when there is enough circumstantial evidence warranting a trial.

     

    Even if he was charged, wouldn't the fact that it was a misdemeanor to begin with mean that he would likely plea down to some sort of community service and pay a fine anyways? Its not like there is a strong likelihood of serving any jail time, especially as it was his first offense of this kind...

  6. Legally, he may not have to talk to the police other than to say "I invoke the 5th amendment" and make them try to prove who was driving. That's a pretty strong argument not to say anything until/unless evidence rises. But there's legality and then there's morality (karma, if-you-will).

     

    If he does not talk, does ML have even more to lose? I'd say that most fans certainly don't like this situation. I'm sure the Bills do not like it. Could factor into future contract negotiations as the club, in the papers at least, values 'character' players. There will always be this cloud over his head if he doesn't come forward with any info he has. Whether it passes over...?

     

    Almost five days on, I'm disappointed in and have lost respect for ML as a man. I was taught to own responsibility for your actions and to do the right thing. It's crap like this that has me always saying that I 'root for the laundry' rather than the individuals on a team I follow. And it's getting harder to even do that anymore. :wallbash::rolleyes:

     

    His lawyer advised him not to say anything, which is the same advice the lawyer would give you, I or a bum on the street. Every person in this country has a right to not self incriminate themselves, and if they decide not to talk, then that is their right according to the constitution. Obviously the police must not have a lot to go on or else they would have charged him already. All this legal mumbo-jumbo the police are talking is a smoke screen to try and get him to come forward because they have nothing. I mean, just how ridiculous is it for them to suggest that if he refuses to talk to the police that he can be charge with obstruction of justice? In no way, shape or form is that an accurate statement by the police, and they could never charge him with that for not talking, and invoking his constitutional right. I think the police spokesman who suggested this has been reading a little too much George Orwell...

     

    How are we so sure its whoever's fault that was behind the wheel to begin with? What if he had a green light to turn and some drunk person just kept walking right into the street against the light(jaywalking)? What if they recognized it was a member of the Bills' team and intentionally walked in front of the car to try and get insurance money? All kinds of things could have happened, but everyone is assuming that this person is guilty with no evidence to support it. I am not saying the person is innocent either. All I am saying is that we do not know all of the facts, and to be honest, there is more we don't know than there is we know.

     

    Now everyone will say "Well if he was innocent he would come forward with information". Not necessarily. He is acting on advice of his lawyer, who knows the law and what is in the best interest of his client, regardless of what everyone thinks they know or don't know. If it was truly in Marshawn's best interest to come forward and speak about it, I am sure he would have been advised to do so.

     

    Regardless, if the person who was "injured" chooses, they can sue the insurance company in civil court and try and get compensation. The person wasn't seriously injured, and the worst crime that whoever was driving the car could be charged with is a class A misdemeanor, which they would probably plea down to community service and a small fine at the worst anyways.

  7. I listen to a lot of sports talk radio...Cowherd is hands down, my least favorite radio talk host, of all time. His show is just unlistenable. I hate his style, his voice, the substance of what he says...he is everything that sucks about sports talk radio. He sucks the fun and enjoyment out of sports. I am amazed that he has lasted as long as he has. We get ESPN radio, and FOX Sports radio here in Austin. I much prefer FOX...

     

    Yeah, I somehow make it thru CowTurd so I can listen to Rome....that guy is hilarious....

  8. Norwood was only 72.3% for his career. And a majority of that was due to one really good year that he had in '88 when he made the Pro Bowl. Aside from that, 4 of his 7 seasons in the NFL, he was under 70% accuracy. He definitely at no point was in the running for most accurate in history.

     

    I like Norwood okay, but the fact is, he was just okay. I have to agree that if we're putting a kicker up, Christie would be the better option of the two. Christie played much much longer and was much more accurate.

     

    Nowadays under 80% sucks for a FG kicker...

     

    Norwood would have been cut in training camp if he played these days...

  9. Per Pro Football Talk; Plan B, The 49'ers are looking for someone to play Tackle when Jonas Jennings gets INJURED. He has only played 21 games in his three years with the 49'ers. Great signing by the 49'ers. :unsure:

     

    Yeah, almost as good as their decision to ink Clements to an $80 million contract to see him get burnt over and over again...

  10. Any takers?? As far as I know he still owns it. This is the first time it's been for sale since he left Buffalo. Gotta love those wny property taxes! I was in this place back when it was a model....very impressive. One of the pics shows his basketball court in the backyard. Remember his old NBA dreams? haha

     

    http://property.buffaloniagarahomes.com/pr...roperty_type=1#

     

    Yes, property taxes are high, but house prices are rock bottom...

     

    no offense, but I'll take our property taxes and pay $100,000 for a home versus saving a few grand on property taxes and paying $300,000 for a home that is half as big as the one you can get for $100,000 here...

  11. Kevin Mawae talks about the NFLPA and the CBA

     

    "We can get this done," Mawae said about the working relationship between owners and players. "But this isn't just about rookie salaries. For us it's about G-3 funding for stadiums, better benefits, retired guys, easier access to treatment for retirees, giving us an even bigger percentage of the total revenue, giving us more pensions, bigger salaries, guaranteed contracts. There is a lot to talk about. We have to talk about it all."

     

    I'm sure a lot of this is just bs, but scary if they really believe it. The owners wanna pay them way less and they want way more . It's gonna be a wild ride.

     

    At the end of the day, the players will cave like a house of cards because the owners make most of their money in other businesses and can afford to sit out a lot longer than the players, or hire replacement players...

    The players better get their heads out of the collective a**es and learn not to bite the hand that feeds them...

     

    Right now, they are mad because they are getting choice cuts of prime rib instead of filet mignoin when they used to be getting chopped liver...

     

    Most of these players are too young to remember that, but lets see how fast they would be begging to a scrap from the table if the owners decided to go back to giving them chopped liver again...

  12. as per NFL.COM and Rotoworld:

     

    Vince Young-QB- Titans May. 23 - 8:44 pm et

     

     

    Vince Young said that he considered quitting football during training camp last summer because of the pressures

     

    "I really thought long and hard about it," Young told NFL.com.

     

    "There was so much going on with my family. It was crazy being an NFL quarterback. It wasn't fun anymore. All of the fun was out of it ... My teammates helped lift me out of it."

     

    Keith Bulluck confirms the prospect was real at the time, but we wouldn't take it too seriously. Young left Texas a year early and this is just a sign of a kid showing some immaturity while dealing with the pressures of the NFL.

     

    Yeah, he ha so much pressure that he decided to say "F" it and have a coming out party at a local gay club...

  13. Looks like there are women there in the last photo. I drink with my friends all the time with no ladies around and I'm not gay. Not sure about my friends though...

     

    Yeah, but I am pretty sure you aren't hanging around with your shirts off and looking all hot and sweaty....

     

    Also, your friends probably are not as gay as the two guys in white t-shirts that he is with either...

     

    Which is not at all surprising because this article confirms it was a GAY BAR!!!!

     

    Also, the fact that there may or may not be females at this location really is irrelevant as gay bars frequently have females there(especially really hot ones) because they want to go out with their friends and not have to put up with guys hitting on them....

     

    Article About WTF was Vince doing at a Gay Bar

  14. I don't know, but these pictures seem kind of odd if he isn't.

     

    http://forums.sohh.com/showthread.php?t=1023247

     

    Bro....that is some prime time gay sh*t right there....

     

    That dude he is standing next to in the white T-shirt and hat is like 1000% gay, and the guy in the white T-shirt next to him with no hat isn't far behind...

     

    I mean, I always love hanging out at the clubs with my shirt off with a bunch of other hot, sweaty, menzzzz(yes, that is spelled M-E-N-ZZZZ)

     

    Vince Young is gonna have some real issues in the locker room this year, when his teammates realize that he hasn't been looking on the floor for something he dropped when they are standing face-to-face talking to each other butt naked....

  15. Too bad, Schopp, spending a WHOLE day trying to incite us against the NFL because of spygate won't work. We know you love the NHL and hate football.

     

    You've lost all credibility when it comnes to anything footballish. WGR needs to do somethng about their football coverage, because their so-called football reporter is also a hockey guy, Paul Hamilton I believe he's called, a poor substitute for Chris Brown. He also has never watched Seinfeld, by his own admission. Enough said there.

     

    Get some football guys on air, WGR.

     

    Paul Hamilton is the man!!

     

    Ugly mofo, but pretty good, IMHO

  16. Hey, the Cowboys teams that won super bowls in the 90's didn't have all church going, god fearing people on the team...IMHO, every team has these type of players and as long as they are good enough on the field their transgressions off the field are often overlooked...

  17. "With the Bills having already surpassed last year’s season-ticket sales of 48,236, many have seen the spike as a unified voice indicating that the Bills’ fans are “protesting” the relocation of eight games over a five-year span from Buffalo to Toronto. But according to a source close to the team, the increase in season-ticket sales is rooted in something far more obvious: The team is looking good. Coming off a 7-9 season while not losing any key players and bringing aboard a host of quality newcomers, the Bills are seen by many around Buffalo and the NFL as a legitimate playoff contender, rather than the also-ran they’ve been for so many years. According to the source, it’s purely coincidental that the ticket spike is coinciding with Year One of the move to Toronto, and that there’s no realistic chance that a groundswell of Buffalo support for the franchise to stay in its longtime home will have any tangible results. It’s seen as only a matter of time before the poor Buffalo economy will eventually prove too much of a liability for the team, and it’ll be forced to relocate permanently to Toronto."

     

     

    -F PFW for running this story and I would love to hear who their "inside source" is...

  18. I can't stand this OL depth conversation. What is the deal with you people?

     

    I would write much, much more but I am drunk, and don't want to do it and I know you'll all do it yourselves -- so proceed. I think BillinNYC is wrong. Period. Him and the rest of the old guard seem outdated -- for the most part. So attack I want it.

     

    Every year the OLine is determined to be horrible, even tho the stats haven't backed it up in a few years now...

     

    IMHO, our line is ABOVE AVERAGE heading towards VERY GOOD(once they get more consistent in their run blocking). Their pass protection is very good, run blocking is blah...

  19. Just tell him to go to the end zone, turn around like he is going to box out his defender, and throw him a jump ball 3 times in the red zone...

     

    I'll take my chances on throwing to a 6' 6" WR vs. a 5'10" CB every time, especially when the WR has played basketball and knows how to box out effectively...

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