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MT @PriscoCBS: So Cowboys had a 4th-round grade on E.J. Manuel: http://cbsprt.co/CowboysBoard
. Consistent with what 4 GMs told me they had for him.
Probably 4 GMs that did little ti no homework on QBs unlike the Bills who may have done some of the most exhaustive scouting on QBs of any team in a long long time...
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Every player to a tee loved playing for and respected Dick Jauron. Many players also committed border line crimes to get Gregg Williams' approval.
You were saying?
There is a vast difference between liking and respecting a coach as a person and also believing that coach can help you win games...key difference from everything I have read on Marrone---he can also help them win games...Jauron and Williams were well liked but there was little buy-in from the players in terms of believing they could help them win tough games...
When they want to run through the wall for you AND have 100% buy-in into what you are doing, then good results usually follow more often than not...
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I am telling you Marrone is the type of coach as a player you would rather have your legs chopped off for than disappoint...never underestimate how much this plays into teams winning...
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that's the perfect line for them.
improved attacking defense.
improved QB play especially on long throws and mobility ( i'm assuming EJ Manuel will be starting)
much harder schedule.
equals 6-10
We have no idea what their schedule will be like until the season is actually at least half way thru...last year we were supposed to have one of the,easiest schedules but it turned out to be one of the harder ones...last season's records mean little to nothing in judging how a team will perform the following year
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Look at last year's comments at this time. There were fools buying T-Shirts that read "Yes We Chan." 'Wanny" was considered the next coming. Than of course there was the signing of "Super Mario," the next Bruce Smith-he was going to make Brady have nightmares!! Instead he was contemplating suicide before a NE game.
Now we have this great college genius, the guy who sent shivers up and down the great Big East conference. Keep drinking the Kool Aid-Brandon has some easy marks in WNY.
You mean rah-rah college geniuses like Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh at USC and Stanford right?
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Oh please...the players said the same things about Gailey, Williams, Mularkey, and Jauron... Can we wait until the games are played? Do you think Tom Brady will be scared or fooled by Rex Ryan's understudy? Will anyone fear an offense more simple than Florida State's which is run by a guy actually named Jimbo???
I dunno...did they fear the KGun under Kelly or Peyton's offense in Indy? Both were very simple offenses utilizing only a handful of plays ran to perfection
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Flacco is what he is...an average at best QB during the regular season that transforms his game big time in the playoffs. If you are counting on him to get you to the playoffs,like Brady, Manning or Rodgers could do, you are going to he disappointed. If you surround him with players that can help him get to the playoffs, he will take over. Exactly the reason he isn't worth all that money...he needs a lot more help than elite or even very good QBs do to make the playoffs
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He was part of the problem, lest he forget...
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Mario Williams called the new coaching staff "phenomenal".
Eric Wood said they "are great and really hands on."
Stevie Johnson said "He is so amped up to play in this offense he can't wait".
The players don't just seem to be just paying lip service to the new coaching staff, they seem to be genuinely excited and buying in 110%. IMHO, the new attitude, ideas and way this coaching staff is going about things is going to make the biggest adjustment in how they play on Sundays...the players are going to truly believe they are going to win games and not just hoping they don't get put in bad positions like last year.
I am really excited for this season to start. Marrone just seems to have a commanding presence about him that you are drawn to. He is the type of coach that players will want to run through a wall for and will never want to disappoint. When you have that kind of buy-in from players, you become much better than your talent level says you are...
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Good article, and I agree if we put our players in the proper positions and mix things up, this offense could be nightmarish to defend...
speed all over the field and a game breaking RB that is electric in space...
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The Colts offense under Manning was very simple too with only a handful of plays. Executing it to perfection and great players are much more important...
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My whole thing is why did he settle for a 7(at BEST) when he could easily have gotten a 10...multiple 10's. If you are going to be all crazy and psycho about a woman at least make sure she is worth it...I don't see that one as being anything close to worth it...I literally could go out tonight and take a girl home from the club that looks bettert han her with ease...imagine what Mario and his millions could do...
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Committing suicide over a girl that is MAYBE a 7 when you could get multiple 10s without any problem makes me REALLY wonder where his head is at...
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I sure hope its because they feel the knee injury is going to prevent him from playing at a high level because I don't think Diabetes will,especially if he takes diet and exercise seriously.
So many people have type 2 diabetes and virtually none of them need to. It's pretty much reversible with proper diet, exercise and supplementation such as,berberine, magnesium, bitter melon, cinnamon, R-ALA and niacin bound chromium. TUDCA also has been shown to reverse insulin resistance in cells and return them to normal...
Sad so many are sent up the river by their doctor, big pharma, the AMA and FDA...if more people took their health into their own hands they would be much better off and a whole lot healthier
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As much as EJ sounds good, and looks good on paper, some of the write ups are concerning. Here's hoping he can get the accuracy dialed in. Having a smooth and strong arm means nothing if the ball goes no where near the WRs.
How inaccurate can a guy with 68% completion rate last year and over 66% for his career be? Especially considering a lot of the throws were downfield...
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Ya I don't know, all the Colts fans I've talked to said he was terrible and most think they got the better deal out of the trade.
This coming from a team that had one of the worst defenses of all time last year? Their DC was worse than Wannstadt, so maybe a real DC like Pettine can figure out how to use him. He managed to even turn Mayhem Maybin into a useful player for a half season...
Steeler fans get upset about Jerome Bettis missing the HOF like we do about Andre Reed. How many people remember what a bust he was with the Rams?
Cris Carter was ordinary in Philadelphia.
I'm just saying, it's worth swapping someone who doesn't fit your plans for someone who may have something to contribute.
Not exactly a bust...1429 yards his rookie year followed by over 1000 his second season...3rd season was disappointing but likely the result of nagging injuries or poor line play...
Dude I am a huge geek and that was too geeky a reference for even me to stand!!!
Lol! Tell Joker and Ashley I said hi...
Commander Sheppard is the greatest hero of our time. Can't believe we traded him for this bum.
We could have at least got a few Krogans or maybe even a fleet of Batarians...yet we settle for this dude...lol
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Marrone and Whaley definitely have a presence about them we have lacked for a long time...the type of men people gravitate towards...
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Damn, he worth $100 million and that's the best he could do? She's cute but not hot...
I've banged better looking girls from the clubs on Chippewa on any given night...just saying
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We have Rogers who was better than either Hunter or Patterson while at Tennessee
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/rob-rang/22153184/2013-nfl-draft-top-10-undrafted-underclassmen
Rogers at #2 on the list:
WR Da'Rick Rogers, Tennessee Tech (6-3, 217, 4.52)
Once considered a first-round prospect, Rogers led the SEC in catches in 2011 but was dismissed from Tennessee prior to the 2012 season due to multiple failed drug tests and issues with the coaching staff. He wound up at Tennessee Tech and was productive at the FCS-level in 2012 and kept his nose clean, but the damage was already done. Considered a first-round talent by some, the talent wasn't enough to overlook the maturity concerns.
Rogers was the leading receiver in the SEC in 2011 with Tennessee and was considered more talented than either Justin Hunter or Cordarelle Patterson...his potential is extremely high...he is the most physically gifted receiver we may have ever had on this team...that's how good he can be
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Partially why I don't get the knocks on Manuel from the national pundits...they were lambasting him for not being able to do things that he specifically was coached not to do...the Bills asked Manuel about it and he told them as much, so they went to the FSU coaches who told them the same thing. Then they sat down with Manuel to get an idea of his grasp of concepts with the offense he was running, football IQ type concepts and gave him some of the offense they planned on running and asked him about it. He was able to break down everything and knew exactly what was going on, why things were done certain way, etc...he is a self proclaimed film junkie and has a tremendous work ethic. He is also pretty smart, as a 2 time All-ACC Academic All American.
QBs with tremendous physical gifts, who work hard on and off the field and in the fim room, and who are very intelligent almost always succeed. In most cases the film work and the mental part of the game is what holds the QBs with tremendous physical atributes back. Wouldn't be surprised to see Manuel turn into a stud after a few years...
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Actually it's more likely he'd have gone before the 5th round, given his speed and Senior Bowl week. But we'll never know now and all that remains is to see what he does.
If he stayed at Tennessee he could have been the first WR drafted...he was destroying SEC DBs but only doing OK at Tennessee Tech as if he was uninterested, which made a lot of teams question his commitment level...
The comparisons I have seen so far:
Julio Jones clone
Terrell Owens
Cross between Chad and Andre Johnson
that's some pretty damn good WRs he is being compared to...all the talent in the world...
Except Randy is 6/4 and ran a 4.25 in school and a 4.27 at the combine.
Also Randy was never a physical player. DR can punish DBs.
Should make for lots of fun seeing if he makes it this spring/summer.
Without the baggage he would have prolly gone in that run that began late in the first with Hopkins and continued into the early second.
Not bad for an UDFA.
The direct comparison that intrigued me most was Terrell Owens..great on crossing routes, run after catch and very physical with DBs, even initiating contact many times...
I really do think that plays into it. Nix even admitted in an interview in the last few days that once a guy starts to fall, teams really do think "Uh oh, maybe the other guys know something I don't know about this kid." I actually think that happened with the QBs this year to a small degree.
You would want to think that an NFL team, in this day and age, would know all about these guys. But that said, I would bet anything that every team finds out little morsels after intense scrutiny about players that they think is a scoop on other teams, either good or bad, so what would make anyone believe other teams don't have stuff like that, too.
Once UDFA, they think of it as a free pick.
In this case, you're right. I'm shocked no team took a chance on him in the 5th or 6th.
He didn't dominate at Tennessee Tech even though he put up good numbers. I'm sure that scared teams away. I assume they thought he just didn't have the drive to be a top player in the NFL.
That was a big thing...how did he go from dominant in the SEC to just ok at Tennessee Tech...obviously not talent related...was like he just went through the motions somewhat...
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I thought he had a pretty serious injury that he couldn't really return to form from?
Yeah, it was a spinal column injury inflicted by a tackle from Shawne Merriman...karma is a B word I guess, lol
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I disagree with the assertion that EJ is merely talented and not productive.
The Bills exhaustively looked at every aspect of QBs they might be interested in. Nix explained they asked Manuel about only using half field reads and he told them that was what the coaches asked him to do. They asked the FSU coaches and were told the same thing. Then they asked Manuel questions regarding football knowledge, reading defenses and specific things about their offense and he not only understood them but could break down the concepts for them. Couple this with the fact he is intelligent, a film study junkie, AND athletically gifted, not to mention plays big in big games and is a tremendous leader and its not hard to see why the Bills loved him.
Basically the knocks from the experts on Manuel were he didn't do things he was specifically coached NOT to do...after doing due diligence the Bills decided that he not only is perfectly capable of doing those things, he understands all the concepts behind them. Huge difference between him and Vince Young, Akili Smith, etc...
The experts fail to realize that not doing something because you aren't asked to doesn't mean you are incapable of doing it...
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