Big Turk
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Can he walk? We havent even seen Mcgee in two seasons and then he was about broken.
Dunno but he was getting a workout with the Dolphins today, and they have a hell of a lot better DBs on the field right now than we do...
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I agree that Hackett seems to be in over his head. Let's hope he's smart and a fast learner. Maybe he will learn and get better along with Manuel. We can only hope.
We should expect improvement by midseason and then incremental improvement each game thereafter...
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I don't understand why Mcgee is even being considered on the board. The coaching staff, nor GM has any connection to mcgee and he hasnt played in two years.
In Rogers defense, he is what our 4th corner? Better suited for the slot too. He was in a bad spot all day but I can't hate on Rogers. I couldnt understand why a safety wasn't over top of him all day
Cause McGee>>>>Rogers?
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I think Justin Rogers might have just had the all time worst game by a single player I have ever seen.
He allowed 5 completions for 229 yards, 2 TDs, a few 3rd and forever conversions, and had a long PI call to boot.
No justification for him to be on the roster with players like Trufant, Sheldon Brown and Nate Clements available. They might not be what they once were but they are still ten times better than Rogers. Hell even McGee if healthy is an upgrade there.
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The Bills only lost by a touchdown because of all the penalties against the Jets. If it wasn't for that, the Bills lose by alot more. So In all honestly, I cannot see this as a positive. The fact the Bills lost to a team who had a crazy amount of penalties and two turnovers, is a negative. The Bills were awful.
Ok, to turn that around, if the Bills have ANYONE other than Justin Rogers playing CB, the Jets likely don't score more than 13 points that game...that might be the worst performance by a single player I have ever had the misfortune of watching...
Why is he still on the team when players like Trufant and Sheldon Brown are available. They might not be great, but they are certainly better than what we have now...makes zero sense to keep trotting Rogers out there to get smoked on the regular
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My positive is that this team fought back to tie the game when past Bills teams would have been shellacked. See last year's Jet, Seahawk and Patriot games...that team had no mental toughness at all, they folded like a cheap tent.
That my friends is mental toughness. When things go badly do you fight or fold? This team fights. That is much, much harder to come by than a few players and is one of the most important things needed to change the culture...
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Carolina sign D Florence this week, and started him.
They won 38-0.
Even if we still suck, I'd like the team to be proactive in their sucking, rather than content with it. Go out and sign people!!!! We have been thin at CB since Gilmore went down.
Yeah, I mean there have to be at least 10 players they could sign that are easily better than Rogers...
5 receptions allowed for 229!!! Yards, 2 TDs, multiple 3rd and longs converted against him and a couple of long PI penalties...
Has to be up there with the worst performance by a single player I have ever seen...
What makles it worse is it was against mediocre at best receivers.
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Colin Brown and Justin Rogers are at the top of any list of "Who's not cutting it"
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EJ looked like a rookie today, no surprise there. Horrible protection all day, major footwork issues. That last throw out of bounds was made off one foot at a horrible angle. No way to get an accurate throw like that. Just terrible pass pro, and no scheme at all by Hackett to make things easier for his rookie QB. Where does one start? All kinds of called runs on 1st down= 2nd and longs all day. Anyone should know the Jets run D will not give you any 1st down yardage. No screens to slow down the rush. No boots or play action. Hackett is pretty awful as a coordinator and his "rookieness" showed even more than EJ's to any seasoned football observer. You can't hide a rookie QB, but you don't play right into the teeth of the defense either. Hackett was absolutely schooled today.
Yeah, remember how good our screen game was last year under Gailey? Possbily best in NFL.
EJ did run a naked boot for a first down today, a play I was screaming for against Carolina on 3rd and goal from the 2 last week on the series we threw 2 fade passes on 2nd and 3rd down...he would have walked into the endzone last week...
Absolutely. Chan's undoing was Wannstedt.
Chan was an unbelievably smart offensive mind. Hackett is a rookie.
Yeah, Gailey was a brilliant play designer. I dunno whats worse, seeing guys running wide open but not having a QB that can get them the ball or having good enough players but having them all covered because of poor play design...
Absolutely. Chan's undoing was Wannstedt.
Chan was an unbelievably smart offensive mind. Hackett is a rookie.
Yeah, Gailey was a brilliant play designer. I dunno whats worse, seeing guys running wide open but not having a QB that can get them the ball or having good enough players but having them all covered because of poor play design...
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I know what you're saying. Probably no other option but it would have been a good idea to not leave him on an island with the game in the balance. Just frustrating again that it seems like our coaches will not adjust. Ok so i may have exaggerated when I said I'd cut him on the sideline but i wouldn't hesitate to do it tomorrow.
What adjustment is gonna be made? I mean the Jets were smart they kept lining up with 3 and 4 WRs knowing we had nobody to cover them.
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I would have cut him during the game. What a bum.
Yeah, I mean after that long Holmes TD whre he was for once in the game, in great position, only to pull a "McKelvin" and let him catch it and miss the tackle for a TD, I think I would have just told him to go to the locker room an had the equipment manager waiting for him there with a plane ticket home. If he stays on the roster past 6pm tomorrow its a miracle.
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No doubt Coach, but we are missing our 3 top corners and a scumbag safety, so I was not surprised at all.
Yeah, I mean I don't know what most teams in the NFL could do with having to play a 6th string CB against another teams #1 WR all game, but then again I don't know many teams other than the Panthers that have this many injured secondary players...
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I have no idea how you could not have posted that Justin Rogers almost singlehandedly lost this game on defense for us. Without him getting beaten down the field for multiple bombs and 2 TD's, a long PI call against, and multiple completions for first downs on 3rd and forever, the Jets likely have 10 points max.
Rogers probably gave up 200 yards of offense and 14 points minimum by himself today, probably more because the Jets converted on 3rd and long againt him twice on the first drive, if either one of those was incomplete, it was a punt or a FG...
Sickening one player can have that much of a deciding factor when the rest of the D came to play...
I dunno what Pettine can do with a 6th CB covering the other teams #1 WR tho...I dunno what most DC's could do with that, probably not much better, I guess...
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One of offense and one on defense.
Up until today, Colin Brown, the LG didn't kill us, although he got manhandled pretty much the entire game both games. Today he really hurt us especially down the stretch when he got EJ sacked by just completely whiffing on a block.
Now, Brown is going to hurt us in some games to be sure, but it is not a crippling blow to have him out there for the most part. The first two games he was graded as worst PLAYER in the NFL by PFF and it didn't effect us much. Today? Yeah, he got exposed badly by a Jets D that can both pressure the passer and still take away all your throws at the same time. When the pressure is coming that much faster and thre is still nowhere to throw, that's where the issues lie. However, very very few teams in the NFL can do that. Perhaps Seattle, San Fran and the Jets are it, so that likely will not kill us going forward.
The one thing that WILL kill us and IMHO is not going to be able to be overcome is to have Justin Rogers virtually singlehandely losing games for us by repeatedly getting smoked on deep balls for long gains and TD's, and giving up completions for first downs on 3rd and forever throws(3rd and 18, 3rd and 12, etc).
Rogers must have given up at least 200 yards of receiving yardage on several deep throws, and throw in a few PI calls on deep balls. I feel sorry for the D. Save for Rogers, they played well enough to win the game. Alonso is a freaking stud. Great instincts on that INT. Lawson was all over the place, although it was frustrating to see him get sucked in and not set the edge like he was the first two games so effectively on outside runs, losing contain to that side of the field.
Time and again, the play du jour for the Jet was to throw bombs to whoever Rogers was covering and otehr than a nice pass breakup on the flea flicker by Rogers, it was always complete or a PI...twice for TD's. The sad part is on the last TD to Santonio Holmes I swore it was McKelvin from the last 3 years as he was in perfect position for once instead of 5 yards behind his man, never looked for the ball, had his man catch it and then miss the tackle for a TD...
I would give him the Jimmy Johnson treatment and hand him a plane ticket in the locker room and tell him good luck because he is not on the team anymore so he will have to catch a commercial flight home. He was that bad. Actually, I take that bad, he was worse. I would have handed him his ticket on the sideline after that Holmes TD to give the Jets the win.
I have no idea how Rogers could possibly still be on the team at 6pm tomorrow. There is no possible way that this team can believe he is better than 10 other CBs they could bring in off the waiver wire. I mean this was all time bad. Rogers might get the lowest grade EVER given by PFF. All time bad performance.
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No designing a scheme utilizing Spiller in space.
No bubble screens to speed receivers. No HB screens to Jackson or Spiller.
No use of rollouts and taking advantage of a mobile quarterback. No misdirection
No use of clock management before half-time.
What do you guys think?
Hackett is in way over his head.
I agree, Hackett is going through some growing pains. For all Gailey's weaknesses and stubborness, he designed fantastic plays that worked very effectively at getting guys open
Time and again Gannon showed how the Bills receivers were covered up with nowehre to throw the ball, even when EJ had some time.
Ryan is just a great DC and the Jets are one of the few teams that can bring presure but still give you nowhere to throw the ball as the same time.
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Forget the Jimmy Johnson locker room cut of Rogers, give him his plane ticket NOW!!
If he is not replaced by someone Monday I will be shocked
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When Pettine said we bring pressure in every situation he wasn't lying
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- Fandemonium! I was the second or third guy on top of the goal post for about 20 seconds until I was ripped off by someone climbing up me to get on the post.
- Going with my buddies to the coldest game in Bills History - 48 degrees below zero with windchill. I know it was a Jets game, just can't remember which year in early 90's. I remember the beers having ice in it by the time we made it back fromt he consession stand to our seats.
- Watching the greatest comeback in the history of the NFL. Remembering how low we were in the first half and the comeback in the second half.
A family friend had an extra ticket for me for that Jets game but ended up not going due to freezing temps, lol
- Fandemonium! I was the second or third guy on top of the goal post for about 20 seconds until I was ripped off by someone climbing up me to get on the post.
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1) Kelly diving into the endzone last play against Miami signalling the dawn of a new era
2) Raiders 51-3 game that was over at the half, knowing for the next hour and a half you could relax, celebrate and not be nervous about going to first super bowl ever
3) Oilers comeback game---nuff said
4) Niners no punt game where both teams put on a dazzling display of great offensive execution
5) Bills-Dolphins snow playoff game
6) Bills-Dolphins road playoff game, where we screened them to death
Agonizing games I remember vividly:
1) Browns playoff loss--the Ronnie Harmon drop of a perfectly thrown TD pass to win it
2) Music City Miracle
3) Jags stun Bills in playoffs in Kellys last game---I was in attendance at Rich Stadium and it was stunned silence for much of the second half...Natrone Means Business had a 78 yard TD run in that game, a game noone thought we could possibly lose to a 2 year old expansion team at home...
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Why complete a 30 yard pass with 8 defenders between you and the goalline 30 yards away with no chance of getting there? Only shot was to throw to endzone and Bills didn't allow the time for that
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Spiller hasn't played up to the hype. He'll have an occasional good run, but then gets stuffed at the line too much. Never liked his pick in the draft, too high and wrong position at the time, but that's Buddy's fault not his. I feel more confident when Fred is in that the RB will get positive yardage.
Yes because averaging 6 YPC and being a home run threat every time he touches the ball is a bad thing
or they made a calculated decision that he wouldnt be a crippling liability (which he hasnt) and they didnt like other options, or thought legursky was a real option or something we dont know. even great teams have threads like this.
Legursky was the backup when he was healthy and by many accounts WORSE than Brown
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Maclin really hurt...Avant is average at best, Jackson is dynamic but gets doubled and neither Avant nor Cooper can get off press coverage...as Irvin said 30 minutes after the game ended " Riley Cooper is still trying to get off the line right now"...
McCoy is a weapon but Vick doesn't seem to look for him enough in the passing game and instead forces balls into coverage...
He makes plays few QBs can make but also too many boneheaded decisions and fumbles too much...
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Starting to wonder if this could be a trap game for us. We have high spirits. Atlanta coming up. They are the Jets and they are a team that constantly wrings us dry. I don't care if they have had a lot of turnover I still picture our RB's running to the LOS and disappearing.
That being said... how are we going to matchup on the line? Is it worth it to pull the TE for the FB and two backs? A 3 back set...?
How can we open the lanes against a heavy DL this week without exposing EJ? He is still a rookie and I am concerned that he could be 2 or 3 hits away from losing some confidence...
It has been proven rather conclusively through in depth analysis by football outsiders that trap games do not exist and the team expected to win wins at a slightly higher rate than normal...
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Stupid question: What is cover 0?
Used a lot in goalline situations where the endzone acts as a safety or when you are bringing an all out blitz...
All time worst single game performances by a single player
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At this point I'd rather have someone that can cover a WR