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All i was pointing out is that he was still a Viking and didn't end up with the Pats* until 5 years later

was that really necessary? anyways the incident happened in 2002 when he hit the cop with his car and he was still with the Vikings he didn't join the Pats* until 2007 come on, are you serious?

If i recall, wasn't Moss still a Viking when that happened?

I agree, and i don't think it's something that is done to omit him on purpose but i feel he should be up there, as if anyone remembers like Talley said, Norwood was a hell of a kicker and deserves to be on the wall with the rest of the guys

Yea it was rough last night, i live right by Buff state and it was pretty bad in my neighborhood, so we took off and went back to work and hit the gym

Just a heads up on this here

HFBD Rockpile, Buckeymike, nero47

interesting.... Per Bucky Brooks on SI.com • After earning his first Pro Bowl nomination at the end of 2007, Bills left tackle Jason Peters is currently boycotting all team activities to express his dissatisfaction with his contract situation. Peters, a former undrafted college tight end who successfully transitioned to offensive tackle, is currently ranked third on the Bills' offensive line in compensation, and he contends that he has outperformed his current deal, given the market for top tackles. While Peters has a legitimate gripe regarding his stature on the team, the Bills run the risk of setting a bad precedent by renegotiating his deal at this time. "There is a growing trend by players of wanting to return to the table, if their team signs a free agent at their position to a big contract," said a NFC personnel executive. "Players fail to recognize that the respective player went through the free agent process and several factors could've contributed to the size of the deal." In this case, the Bills proactively identified Peters as a budding star at the position and rewarded him with a five-year, $15.5 contract in 2006. Thus, heading back to the table only two years into the deal would encourage several of his teammates to voice their displeasure about their contracts. The Bills must handle the Peters' situation correctly to prevent an onslaught of holdouts from their promising young players. The best scenario for the Bills would be for Peters to play this season under his current deal with the notion of renegotiating the contract at the end of the year. This would allow the Bills to accurately assess the market and offer a deal commensurate with Peters' stature as one of the top tackles in the league.

Dear JR in Ann Arbor, I feel so sad, I got these big fake breasts and these pearly white teeth, but I am still unnoticed by the opposite sex. Could it be the fact I smell like I rolled around in horse manure, or could it be the Uni-brow i sport? My mother raised me to believe my uni brow was unique and attractive, and the smell would fade with age, (it hasn't since I just turned 57) Patiently waiting for your reply... Lonely and stinking in Boston

Good Article.........hopefully he will be as good as advertised, and our D is better than last year..... I am excited for this season and if we can (fingers crossed) stay pretty healthy i think you can see our D jump from 31st in yards allowed to somewhere around the middle of the pack in the league. This team will have a much better chance to win games if we can get the D off the field on those 3rd downs, so when we do have a 3 and out with the O, the D is still fairly rested. That is not a shot at our QB, but just a fact that 3 and outs happen with any offense, but if we can keep them to a very small number then its quite obvious we stand a better chance to win games. So to summarize, D stays healthy plus D stays fairly well rested equals= much improved and overall better team record.

very good point....... someone will almost always hire you to do something

I thought the only QB this team had was Hamdan, who are these people? Edwards and Losman??? never heard of them, must not have enough of the Chroise

HFBD Mike

So just did my seat upgrade, went from 239 down to 126 row 18, anyone have any experience in that area? What kinds of people, if the seats are decent? Etc.....

So I finally get to do my seat upgrades tomorrow, I have a couple of ideas for where i want to move, hopefully they will be available....

HFBD and don't have too many of these or you will be feeling like

I agree, i was totally crushed to find out people were really talking about candy

good point

good point, and i have caught flack for saying that, it's cool I understand that..... but to me it just doesn't make sense, maybe my sense of morals and whatnot comes straight from the 50's but i just think it's a bunch of crap. And I'm not naive enough to believe it doesn't happen, I know it does, i just think it's crap.

ok, so holding out when your contract isn't guaranteed makes no sense, but he indicated that it is pretty low to do it in other sports but not football, besides it being a non guaranteed contract why is it not low to do it in football?

all sports are cut throat..... why is football any different? and not just Peters, but if a player has a horrible year, why shouldn't the owner be able to say, well you really sucked this year so we are gonna ask you to take a pay cut until you get better? it doesn't happen and that's the problem

My whole point about this argument was i would like to see one owner take a stand when i guy holds out over his contract and says " fine, sit, i don't care, and see how many other players hold out for new contracts at that point in time? I think you would see a drop in it because in the end the player loses a year which hurts him because the lifetime of playing NFL football is not long, and the player doesn't make money.... It would teach the players to think twice before holding out

The comparison is being made mainly to state that they should be playing out a contract and then negotiating a new one, it was just an example of how things can be, and if the owners would stand up and not cave to this crap that the players and agents pull, this whole thing wouldn't be an issue

I do believe it is ridiculous to hold out when you already have a contract where you are already making a buttload of money, and in the bolded section, it's the same if you are not a pro athlete. And just like free agency, once one owner takes a stand against these holdouts, and decides not to give them a new contract hopefully it will snowball and people like Chad Johnson can sit and not play because the owner has had enough of being held up and constantly caving to the demands of these over priced athletes.

totally agree, you make very good points i just think it's more the agent's fault than the players because they are going to get a bigger cut of that contract, then also they become known as the man and other players want him as an agent cause he can get them the big payday, so now they have more clients which again equals more money for the agent