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With the events of the last few days (the Moulds fiasco, fish loss, fan lynch mob mentality setting in) it is obvious that TD can't come back next year. However, I would just assume give he and MM another year to clean up their mess, than promote Modrak, for more of the same. I really hate the idea of having a GM who is handcuffed to a coach he didn't hire. That pretty much never works, and just assured us of another ugly season, both on and off the field. I have to say, unless Modrak has just been cashing RW's checks, while spinning around in circles in his office chair the last few years, he is at least partly responsible for the mess this team is in...I agree, blow it up! Somebody, yesterday, mentioned Bob Ferguson or Ron Wolfe as a possible replacements for the GM spot. Get 'er done TD!
Yes! Good use of The Battle Cry! Blow It Up!
Thank You...I'm thinking about Starting the BIU Club...Dont want to call it "The Blow Club," or "The Blow It" Club for obvious reasons...And "The Blow It Up Club" still has some vague negative connotations...So I'm thinking The BIU Club works best...Ideas?
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I have a different take on the Bills situation brought to a head by the EM situation.
Consider what has happened with player moves:
- Releases Bobby Shaw
- Bench JP for non-performance
- Benched Sam Adams
- Speaks out against lack of effort on WM's part
- Tries MW at LG, fails, corrects mistake
- JP comes in for injured KH, plays welll and gets starting job for good
- Asks for EM suspension
I see a trend here. MM seems to be taking more control of the team and sending a clear message. If you are hard working and perform well, you are assured of your place in the starting line-up. If you are not trying, lazy you will be reprimanded.
I ask all of those calling for MM's head one question - If Bill Parcells was our head coach and did the above, wouldn't we all be saying he is a hard ass, a disciplinarian and just wants performers on the team ?
MM wants to make Buffalo into a Pittsburgh like team of blue-collared type players who play hard every day and work as a team. No living on past glory (EM), no beating your chest (WM), no lazy a$$ play (Sam), no detrimental activites (apparently Bobby Shaw)
Bottom line, MM seems to be getting more in charge around here. He would not have made all these moves if he was 'constrained' by TD or RW.
Feel free to fire away at my assessment. Don't say that a lot of conclusions based on little information. This is end actions that we all have seen that drove my thoughts.
I think you are probably right... All that may very well be true and I think TD has told Mularkey that he has free reign in these areas...Of coarse if he continues to lose and get out-coached on Sunday it wont matter much cause he'll lose all control when he's shown the door...
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Well that assertion is being strongly denied by Moulds and his Agent...So for me personally I'm not going to assume a guy like EM would all of a sudden refuse to go in a Game after 10 Years of pretty consistant on-the-field service...
If that is the case (Moulds just refusing to go in) then EM was being a big baby and deserves a suspension...No matter how much I can't stand Mularkey you can't accept that type of insubordination...
As far as taking Mularkey's side cause he's looking out for the future of the Team I would agree if in fact that future included a new Head Coach...
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Sorry, I didn't mean to make this a Drew thread.
Let's focus on what Glenn said instead, and forget DB:
"Add people like Ruben Brown (Chicago fans say he has been great), Glenn Parker (MVP at the time according to many at KC), etc who media and fans (the fans were often following media like rats followed Pied Piper) also bashed."
Fans around here raise the pitchforks at the slightest negative. To be honest, I wonder if the 90s Bills would've been able to have such great success in today's day and age, what with all the fan and media frenzy over the littlest things.
CW
I don't know...The Bickering Bills thing was pretty Big News, seemed like people were using that forever...But that did not seem to derail that Team much...
But when you Win like those Teams Won, Fan support in Western NY will always be favorable, no matter the frenzy...Now...no question those Teams spoiled us as Bills fans a bit, which may be why the reaction to adversity is as strong as it has been the past few years...
But that 88 and on Era Team was just flat out good...I think they could have Won big in any City, under any Fan or Media pressure...And Marv was the perfect Head Coach for the personalities...He kept that Team Focused on the job...
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And Lithgow was Born in Rochester...
Which has nothing to do with anything...
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I don't know if the Flutie/RJ debate can ever be topped...It still lingers a bit today...Now that was a QB controversy...
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I would advise a heavy dosage of alcoholic beverages to those intending on watching the next 4 games...If not alcohol, an alternative mind altering substance, preferably a Hallucinogen that would successfully give the false impression that you are watching a quality NFL Organization...
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We have a team that is rebuilding and are developing a young QB. You are going to have some vets that will complain about the way things are being done. If you have players that do not want to be here then get them out of here and find some players that do. You have a QB in his first year a head coach in his second year and a DC in his third, with no good DT to help the LB’s and the DB’s. This is not a play off team, next year maybe, maybe not but I do not believe you scrap everything now if you do then you will start all over with a 3 yr turn around with all new coaches and a new GM. I know I do not want to see that happen. We have some players to get rid of starting with Eric M. He is not putting up the numbers he should be and just running his mouth. Use the extra cap money to fix the O-line and D-line and draft MUCH better. I hope the players are not running the ship……
Yep...The TD Master Plan is right on Schedule...
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I can't help but wonder how Lewis or Fox would have done here in Buffalo with our personal. It may have been as someone suggested, they would have clashed with TD over this issue. But neither of them were the established coaches that BC was in Pitt to get away with that. By the time their power struggle took place BC had been coach for a good 5 or 6 years. Lewis had a bit of a reputation behind him that might have allowed him to get away with it. But Fox was just like MM or GW in that he's a head coach in his first job without a big reputation. It's very likely by now Fox would have been fired after four years of not winning.
I live in Charlotte so I get a HUGE dose of John Fox on a daily basis...Fox is an interesting study in a HC because most of the time he's a REAL easy going guy...He does not like to give much information, the whole Organization is like that and they get mocked often for it...But one thing about Fox that is glaringly obvious is his ability to understand a Players strengths and weaknesses, and get the most out of those guys on Game day...No question his Players seem to like him a lot, and it seems to a Man they have bought into the Plan...
One thing about Fox is that since he came to The Panthers he stated openly that they would be a Run 1st, control the clock and play good Defense style of Team. And outside of stretches where injury situations that were beyond his control forced him to adjust a bit, there is no question at all that Fox has followed the promised Plan to the letter...I think Players respect that...
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I am one who doesn't trust anyone's version of these events because we never get the real story. I find it VERY difficult to believe that Moulds' main beef was that we weren't running more with a 21-0 lead, especially because we were running a lot more, and he wouldnt be getting the ball then either. I also find it impossible to believe that a coach would have a beef with a former star player for no reason, or that he would exclude him from the game plan for no good reason aftrer Eric had his best game the week before, or who listen to Moulds complain earlier in the year and took Moulds' advice by benching Losman and going with Holcomb.
Obviously I have no idea what the real story is either...But I took Moulds comments about the "Smash Mouth" Offense-stuff to be more of a direct slap at Mularkey's inconsistancy of following through with his promises, rather than actually being a Miami Game specific comment...I thought Moulds just used the opportunity of the Miami debacle to air his personal frustrations about MM's Offensive philosophy and lack of consistancy...So even though it appeared on the surface that he was talking exclusively about the Miami Game, this was a deeper seeded concern of EM's.
I believe that #80 used the opportunity to get his little dig in on the HC who told all Bills Fans, Players, and anyone else who would listen, that this Offense would be Run 1st, Smash Mouth, then installed a Plan that is Gadget crazy and too cute...
Just the way I saw the comments...Maybe I'm reading too much into it...Who knows...
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I think you just decribed this whole situation in a nutshell...
Welcome to One Bills Drive...Official NFL Training Headquarters for inexperienced Head Coaches...
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Agreed...I just think a good HC can keep his Players happy through proper communication and knowing that you can't take a Vet WR who has been over, or at least close to 1000 yards 6 out of the last 7 years and expect him to accept being nothing more than a decoy...Now I'm not saying your Game Plan can't call for Moulds to be a decoy most of the time...I'm just saying if you want a Player like EM to be a Team Player, you're going to have to figure out a way to get him the Ball every now and again. And most importantly your going to have to communicate to him the importance of his Role in the overall Offensive Game Plan...
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The AP is apparently reporting that Mularkey has asked Ralph Wilson to approve a suspension of Eric Moulds. It looks like we won't have to wait until the offseason to see the future of this team.
1) If the suspension is approved, I can't help but see this becoming a Keyshawn/TO situation where Moulds is suspended/deactivated for the rest of the season on the way to being cut. Given that Moulds has never seemed to be a head case in his 10 years here, this would be a sad situation indeed.
2) On the other hand, if the owner is going to overrule the Head Coach's own suspension, then Mularkey could, no *should*, either be fired or resign on the spot - and let Jerry Gray be interim head coach for the rest of the year. The Head Coach can't be overturned on suspending one of the highest-profile players on the team and survive..... And if Mularkey is fired/resigns, how long can Donahoe realistically survive after blowing two head coaching picks?
JDG
Well...I think Ralph may try to find some kind of compromise here in order to make it look like things are ironed out and all is well...But internally... I think no matter what, the damage is done here...
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I think this is a VERY good point...Sometimes when things start go bad people get overly defensive and apply the tunnel vision...If MM continues to get in these spats with Vet Players, sooner or later any rational thinker is going to wonder if MM himself is the problem...
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I wholeheartedly agree with you my friend. mularkey has been handling this liek a woman. he is the whiny woman who cant take criticism. even in the press conferences he's so damn smug and high on himself when he hasnt accomplished didly squat. I hate how TD or MM try to find idiotic ways to praise our team even in the face of a horrible loss. TD was commending eric king and jabari greer and all these guys and players (basically feeding his ego so he could feel good about the minial draft class he had in 2004/2005) I say minial because he didnt address the issues with dier need like the lines on both sides.
It is a bit laughable though you have to admit...Well TD...If the Scouting Department has done a good Job of filling Needs, if the Coaches are always well prepared and put together good Game Plans, if despite the way it looks the Bills are definitely making progress, and if we are always well prepared for an opponent, how exactly do you explain the fact that we are 4-8????
Don't get me wrong, I understand the Spin Game that GM's feel they need to Play...But you have to admit it is a little funny sometimes...
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This entire situation...to me at least...sounds like a Head Coach who just is no good at properly communicating his Game Plan to a Vet Player...The Vet Player then gets pissed off because he thinks he's being cast aside, and the HC gets pissed off because he feels the Vet is being disruptive...
Again, it may be just me, but this situation reaks of a guy who is simply not ready to be a HC, and does not know how to handle situations based on personality, ego, etc...And I know I'm definitely not an NFL HC, but I have been Managing people for over 20 Years, and I certainly understand how difficult it can be to try to keep 50 plus people happy in their Jobs...
Like I said yesterday the pressures of being an NFL HC are 100 fold higher than being an Assistant, and once again we are stuck with Training a HC on the job...Eric Moulds is certinly no TO in the malcontent area, I think we can all agree on that...Eric Moulds, more than anything wants to Win, I'm pretty much convinced of that also...And if you think it's just a coincidence that Moulds commented/complained immediately after the Miami Game that the Bills are supposed to be a Smash Mouth Offense, then I'm here to tell you it was no coincidence...Moulds knows Football well enough, and I'm pretty sure he sees a HC that says one thing Publicly, and even in the Locker Room, then imputs a Game Plan that is nothing like the tough talk...And I think this may just be a situation where Moulds is thinking OK, if we are not going to be Smash Mouth, and if we are going to Pass the Ball half the time, why in the world can you not design Plays to get me the Ball every once in a while...If we are going to beat them with The Pass, then at least let me help...
Eric Moulds sees himself as an elite NFL WR, right or wrong...And he sees how Vet WR's like Jimmy Smith and Rod Smith are used week in and week out...You can still get the guy a catch or two with proper Play Calling...Being told you are a decoy or not in the Game Plan whatsoever is a serious slap in the face to Moulds IF handled improperly by the HC...Sounds to me like that is exactly what happened here...I could be wrong though...
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The Bills pull out a win against the Patsies?
Not that it would make a difference. Not that it will happen. It would just be fun to see the reaction out of people.
Right now it is kinda like War of the Worlds around here. With people running around shooting radio towers.
Don't get me wrong... I predicted this team to go 5-11. And no, I am not keeping hope alive that the season can be salvaged. For me it was never slavageable.
We do get easily riled (and sometimes rightly so) here.
I think the Bills have already proven they can play the Pats tough, and that was on the Road, so a Win Sunday would not surprise me at all...Nor would it change how I feel about this Organization, Coaching Staff, etc...The Pats are not a bad Team, but they are not exactly the Super Bowl version either...And the Bills are still 4-2 at Home...Make no mistake, The Bills are still capable of being a decent NFL Team...
I think the bigger question is not how Fans will react to a Win, but rather the further damage that can be done by an embarrassing loss at this point...If the Bills Win, or even play the Pats tough, at least it can't get much worse...If they walk out on the Field with Eric Moulds sitting at Home and and get thumped by The Patsies, the ugliness of this week will be multiplied 10 fold...
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MM...No doubt about it...
Make way for the next TD hire who's not ready to be a HC...
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Mularkey is incredible
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I'm no big Media backer by any means...But in this case I don't think you can blame the Media much for pressing...I mean, if it was Sam Aiken we were talking about it would be one thing...But in EM you have maybe the best know Buffalo Bills Player, and a guy who has been there for 10 years...I just don't expect the Media in Buffalo to do anything other than jump all over this story like a bum on a bologna sandwich...
Just my opinion...