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37 minutes ago, Rigotz said:
Total nutcase and distraction to the Dolphins for minimal return.
Ya love to see it.
Nutcase? The guy has quite a story. Came back strong from serious addiction. That says a lot right there.
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15 hours ago, MJS said:
Pretty silly statement. How do you rank and measure the sensitivity of NFL GMs? Beane is a top GM in the league and does a great job. He has built one of the best rosters in the NFL, as well as a talented staff. He is normally pretty buttoned up and has only rarely let his guard down and gotten testy with the media. He's a good professional.
Beans overall has done a good job. But I think you are giving him a bit too much credit. The Von Miller contract was a huge overpay. As was the Diggs extension. The Knox contract extension was just stupid. The Bills fall in love far too heavily with “their guys.” I think that has held us back.
No reason a guy like Tre White at this point has any business being on an NFL field.
The coaching staff is less than dynamic and has been solid but not great. We have been married to a defensive scheme that seems overly complex and
cerebral, especially for younger players. And does not seem to take advantage of players athleticism. And most importantly we almost never change it based on our personnel. Instead we find players to fit it. Instead of bringing in the best athletes and building the defense around the players that we have in that particular year.
And yes having Josh Allen washes away a lot of mistakes. And Beane did a great job getting #17. And has hit on some talented under the radar guys like Shakir and Ty Johnson. And he is great at finding O lineman. And getting a 2nd for Diggs was a winning trade, getting rid of a malcontent.
There is just a certain up tightness/ formality to Beane and McDermott that some organizations don’t seem to have IMO.
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14 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:
Don’t seems like you’re trying to paint these rookies inaccurate a bad light, but in both cases it’s the team. It’s the team that “overdrafted” the QB, it’s the teams at the top of the second round that gave unprecedented fully guaranteed deals to those guys, it’s the Bengals trying to slide something completely unheard of into their first round pick’s contract.
it’s rarely ever a rookie’s fault when these things don’t get signed now (not saying it doesn’t happen) it is almost always the teams trying to put something over on these guys
Cinci has a bad reputation w signing their players. I think they did overpay Tee Higgins who is a good but certainly not great WR. I would have given the money to Hendrickson instead.
As for the Saints, they were always good w Brees and Payton. Their front offense never got much press as it really should be.
I have no idea if Shough will be good or not as a pro. I watch a lot of college football. But I know the teams more than the players because I like to bet on college games. I know Louisville always can score a lot and give up a lot of points. The Louisville-Miami game last year was one of the most entertaining of the season.
it’s the slow time of the sports year. I guess something needs to be talked about in the 24/7/365 football world.
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1 hour ago, BigAl2526 said:
The explanation I've seen is this: A few picks before Buffalo, New Orleans picked a QB, Tyler Shough. Shough was not a highly regarded QB and he is 26 years old, but the Saints liked him. Moreover, the Saints may be in a position where they have to start him. The only other QB on the roster with any name recognition at all is Spencer Rattler. Well, Shough decided that while he can't ask for the big bucks of a high first round pick, since he is the de facto starter on a bad New Orleans team, he could hold out for a fully guaranteed contract. Agents for other second round picks got wind of this (agents talk to each other all the time) and decided to wait things out because if Shough can wrangle a fully guaranteed deal, perhaps they can do the same for their clients, or at least get significant chunks of guaranteed money.
Hence, it's not Sanders being difficult, it's just agents doing what they're supposed to do, trying to get their clients the best deals they can.
Anyone hear anything different or have another take on it?
Yea I wonder how that is going to sit with the Saints locker room when an over drafted QB is holding out for a fully guaranteed contract?
How about you win the job from Rattler and Haener first, and then do some good things for the next 3 years, and then you can make all the money your heart desires like a guy named Brook Purdy?
What about Cinci's 1st round pick Shamar 1 and a 1/2 sacks his last year at Texas A & M Stewart?
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22 hours ago, BuffaloMatt said:
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On 6/23/2025 at 12:40 PM, Captain Hindsight said:
Other guys too who have never made a playoff game are locks. Like Joe Thomas, part of a 1-15 and 0-16 team will absolutely be in the HOF. But Russel wilson, who was a perennial playoff QB and won a SB, I'm not sure he was even the best player on his team. Rivers never made one, but he was a fantastic QB for a long time and took the Chargers to the playoffs with multiple HCs. He tore his ACL a week before the AFCG and played in the game. I always thought he was better than Eli
I remember the Rivers game you are referencing. It was in New England. It was freezing. And Ladanian Tomlinson looked like an ice sculpture stuck to the Chargers bench. LOL Rivers was such a gamer. Loved the way he played. The only thing he couldn't do was run.
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49 minutes ago, Kornfed said:
Always liked Drew but I would trade places with him in a heartbeat and simply deal with it.
My left shoulder is close to that just from lifting weights over the years. You learn to manage it. No way I would get a shoulder replacement. That’s just too much to rehab and deal with when you have a busy life. But I can’t sleep on my left side. So there is that.
Brees was great. An all timer. Smart dude too. That offense w Colston Henderson Graham McCalister and whomever Brees else (Michael Thomas later on) was throwing to was top notch. Would like to see more of that downfield passing game w Josh.
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On 6/20/2025 at 4:39 PM, Rubes said:
Would Dan Marino still have made it to the HOF if he didn't make it to that one Super Bowl at the beginning of his career?
Dan Mariano’s 1984 season was one of the best, if not the best by a QB of all time period. (Other than not winning the SB)
Over 5,000 yards passing w 48 TD passes I believe. That was sick for that era. Duper and Clayton, good grief. The game was played so differently back then. So much more physical in every aspect. And Marino just tore it up. And then the win over the Bears in the famous MNF game the next season in 1985.
And Marino could just throw a football like no one else w that release.
Nowadays the QB’s are all scouted on “athleticism”. Not so much arm strength, release and mechanics. And you get clowns like Anthony Richardson being drafted in the top 5. lol. He would not have even played QB in 1984. And he still likely won’t and shouldn’t now.
As for Josh, he is definitely going to the HOF. His coaching has been mediocre at best on the Bills. If he doesn’t win a Super Bowl, it will not be his fault.
For a lot of guys, getting in the HOF is somewhat subjective. I was always a big Phillip Rivers fan. And would vote him in. Great leader. Thought he was better than Eli Manning. Russell Wilson had some game. But I don’t think he is HOF worthy. Some may disagree w me on Rivers Manning and Wilson.
But Josh is not a maybe. He will be a lock.
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1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:
I brought up the Safeties a few days ago. Are we sure Poyer and Hyde wouldn’t deserve those spots? I realize it was a different era but man it seems like they held down the back end for quite a few seasons.
Where do you put Henry Jones and Mark Kelso on your list of safety’s?
And do you remember Jeff Nixon from the Chuck Knox years? That guy was great at deep safety. Didn’t he get a bunch of picks and then blow his knee out in 80 or 81?
i wasn’t watching the team in the 60’s but it sounds like we had a helluva secondary.
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3 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:
Ravens outgained us 416-273. Went 7/10 on 3rd down and 1/1 on 4th down.
Without Lamar gifting us a couple of turnovers there's no way we win the game. Even winning the turnover margin 3-0 it came down to Mark Andrews dropping an easy 2 pt conversion.
We got way too conservative in the second half. That's on Brady. We need to open up the offense this year. We have a legendary QB. And we are playing offense like the 1972 Redskins with Billy Kilmer at the helm.
I expect us to be ready come opening night. The Ravens will be over hyped. Lamar will make his mistakes. And lets hope our defense shows a physical toughness that has been missing for some time. And the offense pushes the ball up the field. Need to show a whole lot of urgency, because even though it is only the 1st game, it will set a tone. And you know the Ravens will be ready for bear. But we need to have a bigger trap. And just beat them down.
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1 hour ago, Gregg said:
I put the blame mostly on the defense for not doing well in those rounds. If you can't protect a 3-point lead with just 13 seconds left in the game and the other team starting at their own 25 then losing in these rounds year after year is no surprise. Hopefully the moves Beane made this offseason improve the defense so they can finally get to a Super Bowl with a chance to win it.
I put a lot of blame on the coaching as well. 13 seconds was a debacle from the kickoff to playing "prevent us from winning defense" on both of KC's plays from scrimmage.
In the playoff win against Baltimore the offense got way too conservative in the second half. And in the loss at Baltimore, the trick play that Brady called almost knocked Josh out for the season in week 4, and took away all our 2nd half momentum. A lot of people like Brady. But overall his offense play calling is predictable and conservative. (was terrible in short yardage in the AFCCG) And with a QB as dynamic as #17 he needs to be better and open things up. We have good weapons this year. Need to push the ball down the field. You want a take what the defense gives us offense, why pay $300+ million for Josh Allen? Just go get the next Brad Johnson, Teddy Bridgewater or Mitch Trubisky. Maybe even Spencer Ratler. LOL
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3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
I think there is a fundamental inconsistency @Kirby Jackson and @HappyDays between having Mahomes 3rd or 4th based on "other guys playing better the last two years" and then still having Matt Stafford at #7 and #5 respectively.
Over the past two seasons if you look at:
- passing yards
- completion rate
- touchdowns
- passer rating
- yards per attempt
Across ten data points over two seasons Matt Stafford is top 10 in exactly 1 of those ten - yards per attempt in 2023.
I love Matt Stafford. He has had a great career and he will be an interesting HoF debate when he comes up in years to come. But over the past three seasons since he won that Superbowl he has been closer to the 15th best Quarterback in football than the 5th. I know he had the elbow injury in 2022 and that might be part of the explanation but I think he is what he is right now. I still have him in my franchise group but while for almost 10 years (even when he was in Detroit) I banged the drum that he was a top 6 Quarterback and at the top of that "best of the rest" category, I think he is towards the backend of that group now.
I would take Stafford and Goff over Hurts.
The Eagles have put so much around Hurts it’s unbelievable. Howie Roseman is so much ahead of other GM’s it’s not funny. Not sure how they do it so much better, drafting, feee agents, salary cap, etc. But I tip my hat. Beane has been good. Top tier GM. But Roseman stands alone w the results.
Someone do a list of GM’s and owners. That would be really interesting. Or a top 100 NFL players like the NFL Network does.
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19 hours ago, Billy Claude said:
I don't think the comparison in the original article is very useful. First, 2002 was before the passing game explosion so receiving numbers back then would be lower. Secondly, why compare someone's rookie season to career averages? Third medians are more useful than averages since averages will be more affected by complete busts and injuries.
There were 16 WR drafted from #28 to #38 since 2014. 6 of the picks were last year. Coleman was 11th out of 16 in receptions and 7th out of 11th in 16 in yards. That pretty much put him as an average late first/early second rookie WR. The issue is that the Bills could have picked two of the players who did much better statistically than him including McConkey who had the best rookie WR season in a long time. Here are the rankings:
By receptions
1. Ladd McConkey 2024 82
2. Kelvin Benjamin 2014 73
3. Tee Higgins 2020 67
4. Xavier Worthy 2024 59
5. Deebo Samuel 2019 57
6. Xavier Legette 2024 49
7. Elijah Moore 2021 43
8. Christian Watson 2022 41
9. Michael Pittman 2020 13
10. Rickey Pearsall 2024 31
11. Keon Coleman 2024 29
12. Zay Jones 2017 27
13. Phillip Dorsett 2015 18
14. N'Keal Harry 2018 12
15. Ja'Lynn Polk 2024 12
16. Devin Smith 2015 9
By yards
1. Ladd McConkey 2024 1149
2. Kelvin Benjamin 2014 1008
3. Tee Higgins 2020 908
4. Deebo Samuel 2019 802
5. Xavier Worthy 2024 638
6. Christian Watson 2022 611
7. Keon Coleman 2024 556
8. Elijah Moore 2021 538
9. Michael Pittman 2020 503
10. Xavier Legette 2024 497
11. Rickey Pearsall 2024 400
12. Zay Jones 2017 316
13. Phillip Dorsett 2015 225
14. Devin Smith 2015 115
15. N'Keal Harry 2018 105
16. Ja'Lynn Polk 2024 87
The good thing is that the pre 2024 receivers had an average of 6 more receivers and 75 more yards in their second seasons.
Keon Coleman's season was certainly underwhelming. He wasn't terrible. But he was not a big time guy for us for the most part. The numbers are what they are. He made some plays, but for the most part he was not a big difference maker for us. I think he will be better this year if he can stay reasonably healthy. The guy should break 50 receptions (thats averaging 3+ per game) and get 800+ yards and 5-7 TD's. That would be a nice but not tremendous season. And hopefully by next year he is breaking 1000 yards with 70+ receptions. But that will only happen if he can learn how to get some separation.
I think some of the issues with Coleman and Kincaid (who has also not been nearly as dominant as many of us had hoped for out of his first 2 years) is that they are coming to a veteran team that has had a lot of success since 2019. On good veteran teams rookies/young players don't usually come in and dominate. They get some opportunities, but kind of have to know their place is to sit back listen and learn. The coaches are not desperate for them to be thrown into the fire and lead the team. And part of that also comes from good teams drafting later in each round. So we are not drafting top 10 talented players. Later picks usually will take longer to get to the level of being dominant.
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On 6/14/2025 at 8:05 PM, gonzo1105 said:
While I think your overreacting, I put him on the list because of his solid longevity. He’s been a Bill for 8 years. He most likely at minimum will be here for 10 years and has been a pro bowler 4 of those years(not that it means much nowadays) He’s probably honestly last on that list and will he probably seem like Kent Hull was when his career is over.
I actually like McGee being mentioned again due to his longevity in the uniform. He’d probably be in the same tier as Dawkins in my opinion but I wouldn’t crush you or anyone else for mentioning him
Sorry if I was over aggressive in my response about Dion Dawkins. Its more of a cumulative thing with him, not you specifically. I have just never thought of him as a special player. A solid good player yes. But special no. And he just seems like a big self promoter too much for my taste. He is an O lineman. Act like one. Do your job well. Get paid well. And noone needs to know a whole lot more about you. You got a funky haircut with lamb chop side burns. That makes you stand out already.
Anthony Munoz the best left tackle IMO of the modern era never blew his own horn. Enough said.
As for Terrance McGhee, I was being more tongue in cheek mentioning him. He was one of my favorite Bills players of the modern era for his skills as a return man and as a corner. And he seemed like a real solid dude also. Its too bad that injuries cut the prime of his career short I believe.
On 6/14/2025 at 11:20 PM, Big Turk said:It is not close. Not even remotely close.
Allen is the most productive player in the history of the NFL on a per game basis in both the regular and post season.
Allen is literally doing something nobody has ever done before 5-6x a season or more.
Kelly threw more than 30 TD passes one time. One!
Allen is so much better than Kelly it's a joke anyone would even compare them, let alone put Kelly higher because they have some nostalgic bias of misremembering Kelly's play here and thinking it was far better than it actually was.
Kelly was very good, but he was never even close to Allen's level either in play or talent.
And that's simply the inconvenient truth many don't want to admit. But I watched every game Kelly played in as a Bill and never saw Kelly do anything close to what Allen has.
Not even Jim Kelly himself would say he was better than Allen. No need for anyone else to.
I never said Kelly was a better player. But Kelly was an awesome player and leader. He had the charisma toughness and was a winner.
And to say he was never close to Allen's level of talent (agree as a runner) or play is just ignorant on your part.
And I watched all his games as well Turk.
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4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
So Trent Dilfer is better than Allen? Jalen Hurts? Brad Johnson? Nick Foles? Jeff Hostetler? Those guys must be better than Kelly too because they WON Super Bowls. That’s the dumbest argument ever made.
Someone said throw the deep ball earlier and that’s fair. Kelly was also elite calling the game. We haven’t seen that from Allen.
When I compare players, I compare them vs. their contemporaries to avoid the “game was different argument.” Josh Allen is the MVP of the league. He’s been a top 3 QB and top 10 player for 5 straight years. Jim Kelly wasn’t that in his era. He was, and people hate this, a lot like Hurts is now. He was in the next tier of QBs and had the best roster in football there. He was the right guy for them. If Josh Allen quarterbacked those early 90’s team they have AT LEAST 2 Super Bowls. If Jim Kelly quarterbacked these Bills teams they would look a lot like Bucs do now.
I understand what you are saying. But Jim Kelly is much better than Jalen Hurts could ever dream of being.
Jim Kelly was a top echelon player in the NFL his entire career. That being said Josh Allen would have beaten the Giants and the Cowboys in the 4th Super Bowl. The Redskins and Cowboys 1st Super Bowl would have also been closer.
Dan Marino threw a football better than any human being that has ever lived. But he didn’t win a Super Bowl.
it’s a team game. Josh Allen is amazing. Hopefully w some studs on defense we will achieve our destiny this year. But please don’t compare Kelly to Hurts. I am not a Hurts fan. So that Hurts. Lol
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3 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:
1. Bruce Smith
2. Jim Kelly
3. Josh Allen
4. O.J Simpson
5. Andre Reed
6. Jack Kemp
7. Thurman Thomas
I think these 7 have to be in everyone’s top 15
After thatJoe D, Tasker, Kyle Williams, Eric Moulds, Cornelius Bennett, Fred Jackson, Daryl Talley, Billy Shaw, Reuben Brown, Cookie Gilchrist, Elbert Dubenion, Dion Dawkins, Kent Hull all have to be in consideration.
Stop w the Dion Dawkins nonsense. He is a good not quite very good O lineman. John Fina level. Conner McGovern is more talented. Dion Dawkins is a legend in his own mind. He should not be in the same sentence as Kent Hull.
where is Terrance McGhee on your list?
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On 6/13/2025 at 7:22 AM, Kirby Jackson said:
There’s not one thing Kelly did better than Allen. In fact, Kelly was bad in the playoffs. Frank Reich was 2-0 in that span. Don’t confuse winning with a good QB for winning because of a good QB. The early 90’s Bills were the 2025 Eagles. The difference is Jalen Hurts is a better playoff performer than Kelly. There’s not a single thing that Jim Kelly was better at than Josh Allen.
I used the Jalen Hurts argument earlier in the offseason. Jim Kelly was the Jalen Hurts of his day. He was a top 5ish QB that won a lot. Josh Allen is the MVP of the league. It’s not comparable.
EDIT: I’m not sure what anyone is disagreeing with? What is there to disagree with? We can Google their statistics in the playoffs. I’m not sure that a reasonable argument can be made, skill wise as to anything Kelly did better than Allen. Toughness was Kelly’s best quality. Allen has that in spades as well. I’m not sure why the topic of Allen being better than Kelly bothers Bills fans? Honestly, it’s not very close.
It is closer than you make it out to be KJ.
Playing QB in the 80’s and 90’s was a whole different game. Have you forgotten how violent the NFL used to be?! Go watch the hit Jim Burt put on Joe Montana in the 1986 Divisional playoff game in the Meadowlands. It will refresh your memory. And how about the hit Bruce put on Boomer Esiason that knocked him out on the Rich Stadium frozen turf when he was with the Jets.
Josh Allen is a better athlete. But Jim Kelly was an awesome gunslinger.
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On 6/13/2025 at 3:23 PM, Shaw66 said:
You don't say that Joe B went on to say this:
Joe B was being respectful of Tre White. I think it’s pretty clear what he means from watching mini camp.
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45 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Yeah I'll be honest I still kind of wish we hadn't signed Tre. I love what he meant to the franchise but I believe he is just washed at this point. I would rather keep younger players whose bodies haven't broken down, like Strong and Ingram, but the team will probably feel obligated to keep Tre here over one of them.
It will be interesting to see how the secondary competition plays out in training camp this year. I do think we have a lot more depth this year. Whomever is our CB #2 and 3 on the boundary should be a lot better than what Rasul Douglas and Kair Elam gave us last year. Even if Ingram were to be #3 I think his experience from playing some last year and just another year in the system will improve his game. And lets not forget Dane Jackson. Not an amazing athlete. But he has always has had some grit to his game.
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2 minutes ago, FireChans said:
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The salary cap is the driver of just about every major decision made by a football team.
Having to eat Diggs cap hit is why our starting WR's last year were Mack Hollins and a second round rookie.
The decision to pay or not pay James Cook is 100% solely based on the salary cap.
You can't just ignore it. No teams do.
Of course you can not ignore the salary cap. I was just saying that the game-meaning players and teams is more interesting to me is all.
And disagree big time about Cook. The Bills don't value a RB at $15 mill/year. Salary cap is only a small part of the story. Its the same as paying a middle reliever in baseball. You aren't paying them $15 mill/year with or without a salary cap. Because they aren't worth anywhere near that money.
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1 hour ago, YattaOkasan said:
Thats a good example but I think the pertinent context is that there was an injury to the preferred starter (TB). I think open competitions are sort of a different story than what were discussing with regard to CB. Yes its a competition but its not nearly as open as MLB was. I have not seen any reports suggesting that anyone but Benford, White, and Hairston have played first team CB.
To note I dont think White gets the starter job but I think its more likely than not that he makes the team because hes running with the first team. I agree if he stops running with the ones then hes roster spot would be in jeopardy. But if he keeps playing poorly with the ones all through camp and gets no reps with the twos I think he makes the team. Is this your position too? If your position is its too early to know then I agree. If forced to put money down I would say he makes the team cause hes playing with the ones rather than saying hes getting cut because hes playing poorly.
Reading Joe B's report this morning in the Athletic at the end of mini camp made it sound like Tre White did not look good. Had no speed to turn and run with the receivers on the deep routes. I think this is his swan song. And he is done. At this point in their careers, Jackson and Ingram have to be better than Tre. And then there is Hairston and Strong.
I know McDermott loves his veterans. But he wants to win more. Some guys keep most if not all of their speed into their 30's. Others don't. It can be a cruel game with injuries. If Mike Trout was playing pro football, he may have lasted half a season.
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56 minutes ago, FireChans said:
There's some market inefficiencies to take advantage of here.
First, let's set the stage:
In 2018, the salary cap was 177M. In 2025, its 279M.
In 2018, one of the best RB's of his era, Todd Gurley, who was second in MVP voting signed a massive extension.
That extension was 4 years for 57M. An AAV of of $14M. 21M guaranteed at signing (with more guarantees later if he made the team). A record setting contract.
Those numbers, TODAY, would make him the 4th highest paid running back in the league. So when we are talking about a Cook extension, and how that fits in the salary cap, just remember, he is asking for a little more than 2018 Todd Gurley money with a $100M more in salary cap space.
Now, of course, other contracts have been inflated. QBs make more than ever. WR's make more than ever.
Odell Beckham set the WR market in 2018. He signed a 5 year, 95M deal, with 18M AAV and 41M in GTD.
in 2025, that would make him tied for the 20th highest paid WR, right next to Christian Kirk (who inked his deal in 2022). The guarantees are even close, with Kirk getting $37M over 4 years of his deal.
So what conclusions can we draw from this?
Nothing that we didn't already know. The NFL at large has decided that running backs aren't valuable and that WR's are crazy valuable.
However, I would argue that this points to a strategy to take advantage of NFL decision-making at large. In a league where there is 1 winner and 31 losers, you don't want to follow the pack.
I suggest the Bills SHOULD meet Cook in the middle if he would take $15M AAV. We don't have a WR worth $30M. We aren't sure we ever will, and we aren't sure that we would pay them even if we did.
I would also suggest the Bills should NEVER pay a WR anything ever. There is no point in playing in a market where JAGs or good players are having their value this inflated. I don't know where the WR carousel ends, but I don't want to be on it when it does.
Way too much talk about the salary cap on this message board instead of talking football players and teams. That being said:
Todd Gurley had so much promise coming out of Georgia, but Degenerative knee issues ruined his career. The message there is to be real careful who you invest big money in. There are a LOT of solid RB's in the NFL. And James Cook falls into that category. He is reasonably dynamic, but certainly not a unicorn in his abilities. He is worth an extension, at a reasonable price. If he will take $10 mill per for a 3 year extension, sounds about right. Otherwise, let him play out his contract, and test the market. Exactly like Tremaine Edmunds. And Gabe Davis. Beane knows what he is doing with contracts. I do not see an issue replacing Cook if and when the time comes.
More important than overpaying an RB, is having a very good O line that most RB's will have success running behind. Beane needs to spend the bigger dollars on resigning Connor McGovern to anchor our O line for the next 5 years. I think that is the best use of resources then overpaying James Cook or any other RB.
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5 minutes ago, corta765 said:
There is something about those Sundays in November in the Northeast once daylight savings hits that is slightly comforting but also a bummer because you know winter is coming.
I know what you mean. I have lived in the South my entire adult life. But come November I like when it gets dark early. Always have. But I do like the sun in the winter low in the sky with real pretty sunsets on a crisp winter day. How could you not? And there is lots of pro and college football, with the games meaning more and more each week!!
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16 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
Agree, but have to consider what is expected. Recall reading something a few months back talking about Groot. Basically it stated Groot has been been good, not great, but about what you'd expect for a player drafted around #30 overall. Not look at AJ and he was drafted late in the 2nd round, #54, so maybe he too is doing about what realistically can be expected. The problem is rarely do the words realistic and this message board go together.
The average career of players drafted in round 2 is only 3.3 years so AJ has exceeded that. Also read that only around 20% of all NFL drafted players have careers considered to be good or excellent.
What's it all mean. Well from what many posters write, if any players drafted in 1st 3 rounds don't become stars, Beane failed. But when you consider stats like this, he's not doing too bad, infact when you look at the Bills overall record over the past 5 to 6 years, he's doing very very good. Certainly having Josh Allen helps a lot, but it's not all because of Allen either
Those are some very interesting numbers Ed. Makes you stop and think that maybe the expectations of a lot of us fans are out of wack at times.
Tell me why do a lot of people call Greg Rousseau Groot? What is that about?
Rousseau and AJ have been solid to good a lot of the time. But neither has been special. And you know not many NFL guys are special players. Tre White was special before his knee and achilles injuries. Matt Milano was special in 2022 until injuries derailed his career in London 2023. Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer were a special safety combo together in their prime, although I don't think each on their own was quite on that special level. But both were very good players. Kyle Williams was a special player for most of his career.
Lets hope that both Rousseau and AJ can raise their games some this season to a very good level most weeks. I think most Bills fans would take that with a big tooth grin.
McDermott not in Top 10 of NFL coaches per PFF.
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Wow, we must be deep in the off season with all this talk about McDermott.
He is a good, but not great coach. The team plays hard and is almost always prepared. He and Beane have created a very solid culture.
But he very rarely is going to out scheme and out coach another real good coach. (i e Andy Reid or Sean McVay level guys) When we beat the good teams, its because we are prepared to play. (thats on McDermott) And our players play well. And our better on that particular day or night. Its not usually game day coaching where you say, dam we really outcoached them today.
Maybe if the guy had some charisma and personality where people got a kick out of him besides him being our head coach, people would not be so hard on him. Guys like Lou Saban and Marv Levy. Hank Stam, Jim Mora, even Jim Mora, Jr types.