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2 hours ago, Blackbeard said:
Likely they don't. But my point is, the franchise is in upheaval. There are multiple issues going on over there.
You are correct. There certainly are. McDaniel is in over his head as the head coach.
And there are a lot of distractions in South Florida. I live part time in Fort Lauderdale. And my boys who are in their 20's live in Miami. A lot of fun, (if you know what I mean) that can take your focus away from what you should be prioritizing.
In the high rise I live in down there, I rode up the elevator one day with this huge dude. I had a Bills T shirt on. And he made a favorable comment about Bills Mafia. I asked who he was. And it was Patrick Paul. The Dolphins Left OT. He was real friendly. Just massive. And I am over 6 feet.
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31 minutes ago, Blackbeard said:
PLay your top guys early. Get lead. Pull.
Yes, any given Sunday, but Miami is a mess. I don't even know if a team like that qualifies for any given sunday logic. Players hurt (Hill), GM fired, coach isn't really valued it seems, player traded away. Team morale low.
This is why i say it'll be close. McD will win it, but use as little resources as possible. And good. Thats SMART coaching. Marathon vs. sprint.
You think the players care if the GM gets fired? I don't think many do. I think most just go about their business like any other job. And try and focus as much as possible about what they can control.
Its a rivalry game. And its on the road. And Tua always gets a bunch of completions against are less than stellar secondary. But if we get a solid pass rush against him, he is done. (I would like to see Hairston locked up on Waddle all game long. Because Tre and even Benford can not stay with him.) And it will be hot on Sunday in Miami. At least mid 80's. We need to have the same mindset every week, just like we did against the Panthers and the Chiefs. Lets go Buffalo.
Bills Mafia should be bringing it at the Elbo Room in Fort Lauderdale all weekend long.
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2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
Good question. Um, he’s the best of the bunch. He absolutely makes them better than they are today. I’d also probably try giving Moore more routes (no pun intended). Maybe you can cobble together just enough to keep defenses honest. That way you can still run the ball and work the underneath stuff.
Samuel Moore and Palmer can all catch deeper routes. And Moore and Samuel are quick enough on the flats to get YAC.
You have to wonder how much say #17 has in the play calling and game plan each week. (He certainly should) And should be talking with the coaching staff about what he wants incorporated in the offense passing wise on a week to week basis. The deep cross he hit Kincaid with in the second against KC was a thing of beauty, and can be run with just about every receiver we have.
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1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:
This is exactly what I have been saying during all the "go trade for Shaheed" stuff this season. We have already seen this OC not use MVS or Harty last year in that stretch the defense role when they in fact filled similar roles to Shaheed in NO and that was what the point of them being here was supposed to be. This year we have Samuel (4.31 forty) and Moore (4.35 forty) not have their speed used much to open up down field again.
I think one of the biggest changes Brady brought to the offense was his realization that the deep ball shots are not Allens strong suit. He wasn't wrong, but I also think he has a bit over corrected here too by taking it almost completely out. But none the less, I think a gadget type one dimensional WR was less on their radar as that one thing isn't really what Allen excels at, they wanted a legit WR1 who can be a threat deep but also be a playmaker all over the field.
Despite some of the heat some are giving Beane, I don't really think there is much to criticize Beane on here as all the buzz was that he was active on trying to get one, but it takes 2 to tango. The only really big ticket that got traded that was at a position we really needed the help at was Quinnen, but many reports have come out that AFCE teams were told they were not interested on trading within the division. Which is a pretty easy thing to assume and believe too, especially Bills and NE who seem set still a long time to be tough with the QB situations locked down.
The best thing that came out of this trade deadline was all the stuff coming out about Beane being actively calling on legit WR1 type options. Gives me hope that this offseason and draft it will be a top priority and hopefully we see them either land one in FA/Trade (no idea who is going to be available) or aggressive in getting one in the draft, including moving up to do so.
I think you summed it up well Alpha. (You usually bring a voice of reason to the party.) That being said it falls on Joe Brady (who I am not particularly fond of as a play caller) to make our vertical passing game go. Be it any of our receivers (other than Keon-because he can not catch any ball while being covered down field) named Moore Samuel Kincaid Shavers Palmer or Knox, heck even Hawes, he needs to scheme up plays for Josh to hit relatively deep down the field. We are not going to the Super Bowl if we can not improve on that part of our offense.
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1 hour ago, RunTheBall said:
The rookie minimum is about $840,000 a year, plus he’d get an injury settlement. How many years does it take 90% of the posters on the board to make over a million bucks? I’d say that’s a pretty good launching point for a new career. I agree 100% that it sucks having your dream job pulled out from under you. Sucks worse to be a quadriplegic I’d think.
It sure would Run the Ball. A cringe just thinking about that. Remember that happening to Derrick Thomas years ago when he was in a car accident on an icy road on the way to the airport? Dam that sucks.
That is nice money for a young person to be making. I would be happy if my three young adult kids were making that combined. It would sure save me a lot of cash and headache:)
14 minutes ago, ganesh said:But they take big insurance against such injuries. His injury settlement with Bills also will probably give him his entire salary.
spoetrac shows his salary cap hit is 645K. Probably made a million with bonus.
That is good money for a young person. I sure hope he can come back and play. The kid had talent. But that Stenosis in the Cervical Spine (narrowing of the spinal canal is probably congenital, and was likely aggravated from the injury in practice) can be a serious thing. Remember Derrick Burroughs having to retire with something like that in the late 80's? He was a real good CB also.
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1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:
@Paup 1995MVP in the hypothetical world where Garrett Wilson is available, what’s your best offer?
Oh boy, my son text me a while ago and said he would give up 2 first round picks. I said no way. And the biggest reason is because I am not sure the coaching staff we have knows how to incorporate a high level WR into the offense. That being said I would give up next years 1st for Garrett Wilson.
I just looked at this years stats for Wilson and they are a little above pedestrian. But he has Justin Fields throwing him the ball. So there you go KJ. Give the Jets our first next year, and lets go.
I think Beane is pretty bad with his draft picks. And I would not be opposed to trading most if not all of our picks for next year to bring in help at WR, DL and LB or DB to give us a great chance to win the bowl.
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16 hours ago, HappyDays said:
Yeah I hear you but our personnel is built to run the ball and we have to live with that. If you put Kincaid on the Diggs/Brown/Beasley offense he would feast. With the current roster construction he's more a chess piece that you deploy situationally. I can't complain when it works as well as it did yesterday.
Also I'm still not convinced Kincaid has earned a full time heavy volume role. To my eyes he is winning mostly with his pure athletic gifts which make him a mismatch versus LBs. I don't think he has gotten the nuances of the position totally down yet. Still doesn't do a great job of working open in zone or on scramble drills. But when you ask him to just run by his man, or give him a manufactured catch and run opportunity, that's when his gifts become valuable.
I agree with most of your posts. But you seem off on Kincaid and his ability. The guy is our best receiving weapon and should be getting 12+ targets per game. He is a talented player. My god the Cowboys throw all game to Jake Ferguson, and he is nowhere near the game changer that Kincaid is. Running was fine against the Chiefs at home mid season. But to get to the Super Bowl we are going to need to pass the ball down the field. We will be too easy to defend come the playoffs if we have no downfield passing game.
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23 hours ago, Big Turk said:
Cam Lewis's interchangeability and ability to play safety gives the Bills a chess piece they used in disguises that they don't have with Taron...just saying. Thinking we might see Lewis more even when Johnson comes back, or at least we should.
Agree Taron sucks at this point. If we can get rid of him after this year, it would be great. He has gotten the most out of his game. Guy is just too small to keep playing at a high level in the NFL.
And Cam Lewis looked good against the Chiefs. We don't have to have the smallest defense in the NFL to be successful. Someone may want to let McDermott know that.
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15 hours ago, RunTheBall said:
It’s clear Strong has a career threatening neck issue. This isn’t something that was solely caused by practice. He’s probably had an issue for many years, tweaked it in practice, and got a horrific MRI result when they investigated. It’s either multiple disk protrusions or spinal stenosis at the cervical level. I’m leaning more towards the stenosis issue because disks can be successfully dealt with (Eichel, Hyde), whereas stenosis it’s not so simple. Unfortunately I think his career is over. The young man should take the money and pursue a different career. It sucks, but he will have a solid financial launching pad that 99% of people in this country don’t have.
Wasn't the guy a 5th round pick? How much of a bonus did he get? And I doubt his contract is guaranteed. That's not a large amount of money in the grand scheme of how much it costs to live in this era.
The money isn't nearly as big as having your dream cut short almost before it started. That sucks.
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That's awful. Sucks for him and it sucks for us. This sounds like it could be Derrick Burroughs all over again. Wasn't the injury in practice too? The body can only take so much punishment playing football between practices and games over a lifetime.
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4 hours ago, oldmanfan said:
The decision to kick a FG Sunday was a great decision. You have a kicker whose record with 50 yard FGs is excellent, and if he makes it game is over. And if he didn’t then you have to make them go 60 some yards in 20 some seconds against a defense that gave Mahomes fits in the pocket all day. And did so again when the smart decision was made to rush 5 on the last play so he couldn’t throw a decent Hail Mary.
There are criticisms to make about management in the past. The finish of Sunday’s game is not one of those. For the life of me I cannot understand why some people around here cannot simply enjoy a big victory against a big rival without getting all negative about this or that.
That's what message boards are for. Critiquing your team. And celebrating the win.
Sure it was an awesome victory. Had me standing screaming and pacing. But the decision making by McDermott in crunch time has always been less than stellar.
My problem is all the defensive TO's we seem to take because guys don't know where to line up on defense a lot of the time pre snap. And I blame McDermott because I think his defense is too complicated for a lot of the younger guys to grasp. Make it easy, and let them run and hit.
As for kicking the FG, I had no problem with that. Prater almost made it. What I did not like at the end was the play calling on offense. Sending Cook 3 times into the line was not going to work. We have Josh. Let him run at least one bootleg. Great chance of getting the 1st down. Or let him throw a short pass and get the 1st down. We never throw short over the middle anymore. Its always that stupid behind the LOS out pass to Shakir. Sure an incompletion stops the clock without KC burning a TO. But Josh was 23 for 26 at that point. Need more confidence in the passing game.
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13 minutes ago, ganesh said:
Sauce is so overrated
I said that to my son when he text me the news. Good move for the Jets. But the Colts are overrated too. They came down to earth this Sunday.
Look at their wins. Only solid ones are the 1 pointer over the Broncos, and the win over the Chargers in LA. I like our chances against them in the playoffs with Daniel Jones Quarterbacking them.
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1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
I think you just examine where you think the bigger need is at with 1T v. 3T.
We should get Jones back within the next two games (hopefully this one coming up). It's pretty clear Daquan Jones is a 1T and Jordan Phillips is a 3T. But then you have Deone Walker and Larry Ogunjobi, who can play both spots. I think you start Jones and Walker alongside the other and rotate in.
I'd imagine you go out and get a 3T as Phillips, while playing admirably, isn't someone you want to rely on.
Edge we're okay at, even with Hoecht's injury. Don't think we need Jalen Phillips (and I don't think they'd trade him to us). Bosa is playing lights out, still have Groot and Epenesa (who is playing well as an off the bench option) and we were sitting Landon Jackson simply bc we were so loaded there that we didn't need him. Now he'll finally see action.
You want to rely on Landon Jackson on a team that has Super Bowl aspirations? That’s not smart.
Amd we also need a big time LB too. Bernard and Milano look awful at this point. Need Thompson back. The rest are eminently replaceable.
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On 10/28/2025 at 2:31 PM, thenorthremembers said:
His team is 3-5 and the defense he plays on has given up a touchdown more on average than the Bills.
No hate towards Von, he would have been great here if not for injuries. That said because of injuries he may be one of the worst free agent pickups in Bills history. Why bother with the gotcha post?
Von did nothing on Monday night against the Chiefs. Don't know if he was even on the field. Barely heard his name mentioned. That being said, the Commanders defense in the second half was missing in action.
The oddest thing was seeing Jayden Daniels on the sidelines bundled up in a hoodie late in the game giggling and chuckling with his team getting it handed to them by 3 TD's. He looked like a middle schooler. The Commanders look like a bunch of junk the past two weeks. Back to mediocrity and below for them.
But hey it was all Dan Snyder's fault.. At least that's what everyone in Washington likes to say.
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36 minutes ago, LEBills said:
Meyers has been a pretty good receiver. I haven’t watched any Raiders game this year so not sure how he has looked this year. But the last two years he has been basically the 32nd WR1 in terms of yards per route run and first downs per route run. He also has played the chiefs 4 times and averages like 5 catches for 65 yards and half a touchdown in those meetings. He also played outside about 70% of the time in 2023 and 2024.
He had a slower 40 time than Keon and will be turning 29 in a few days (an age cliff for WR production in many receivers). He would just be help for this year as he is certainly better than Shavers or Moore and probably Palmer too. But if Raiders won’t take any less than a day 2 pick you walk away faster than Meyers can run.
You really think Beane is likely to draft a better player then Jacobi Myers with next year's 2nd and 3rd round picks? Very doubtful. Look at Landon Jackson. LOL And TJ Sanders may be something next year. But that is still up in the air. And look at Keon. Double LOL.
Myers is a solid WR. Something we don't have right now other than Shakir. He is certainly worth a 3rd round pick. And they can throw in Taron Johnson too.
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13 minutes ago, Sojourner said:
Never understood the Gabe hate.
4th rounder. Nothing flashy.
Produced some decent moments in the regular season.
Balled out in that 13 seconds game.
Some of the guys we’ve all been guilty of gushing over in the yesteryears don’t even sniff Gabe’s jockstrap.
I think 13 has a chance to help us out if he is healthy and am not going to doubt him.
Go Gabe!
Noone hated Gabe. He wasn't an unlikeable guy. He is a decent NFL player. Nothing spectacular. But could be solid running certain routes. Was excellent toe tapping on the deeper balls by the sidelines. Not the guy who is going to catch a slant and take it to the house, because he is far from twitchy. But can get downfield and seems to have good body control. Doesn't have great hands. But is serviceable if used correctly.
The only time I was pissed w him was two years ago when he seemed to run the wrong route late in the Philly game when he would have been wide open in the endzone if he had broken the other way.
For a 4th round pick, he has been solid. He understands being an NFL WR. I don't think Coleman has any of those innate qualities.
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3 hours ago, finn said:
KC beat the Lions at home only with big help from the refs; they should have lost that game. Then the beat the Raiders (wow) and the Commanders without Daniels. I don't see a juggernaut. But neither do I see lesser team than last year. It's the Bills that have changed. Their defense has gotten a lot weaker, and the passing game is positively alarming, no sugarcoating that. On the other hand, the newcomers on D and McDermott helping to call plays might be enough to overhaul the defense, and maybe Cook and the run game will provide enough offense. I say that last part with much less confidence. The Patriots and Falcons showed the league how to stop the Bills: stack the box and blitz Allen like crazy. With this receiving crew, that's just printing money. I really thought Brady and Allen would have it figured out after the bye, but the Panthers game showed they haven't, at least not yet.
I will be surprised and delighted if they win. But with the shell of Allen we've been seeing and Brady calling plays, I think there's a greater chance they'll be embarrassed. Maybe that's a good thing. Like others, I'm tired of them beating the Chiefs in the regular season and losing in the playoffs. Maybe it'll be the reverse this year.
Shell of Allen??
Thats pretty harsh. Some of you on here talk about Josh like he is Nate Peterman 2.0. He hasn’t been great. But he certainly hasn’t sucked. If anything blame Brady for his conservative game plans and unwillingness to send guys deep. And Beane for putting together a joke of a receiving group that has very limited ability.
But this team will be ready come Sunday. These are grown men who are a proud bunch. I think we see a revved up group on both sides of the ball. And have a solid chance to win.
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On 10/27/2025 at 1:12 PM, Success said:
I agree on the Pats' rise. That team reminds me so much of where we were 4-5 years ago. And it's impossible to not notice the difference in body language if you watch their games & our games. And for us fans, the specter of the Pats reclaiming the division before we even get a ring w/ Allen is like a theme from so many movies they'll show this week for Halloween. "Just when you thought it was over...."
I'm probably reading too much into body language, or what I see as some weariness in Josh in some of his pressers - but it feels like a kind of malaise over this team right now. Even putting up a 40 burger yesterday felt more like we NEEDED that just to have a bit of hope that the team we've come to know is still there, but so much of it still felt kind of flukey. The passing game still underwhelms. It's hard to tell if the D really turned a corner even though they had a solid game.
Sports is kind of a tough thing most of the time. I'm the same as you - it's not healthy how invested I get. My son talks like we HAVE to win a SB with a QB like Josh, but life isn't really about fairness and balance. The Pats might win 6 more before we ever win one, if we ever do, for all I know. That sounds pessimistic, but I'm just saying it's as possible as any other outcome. We're not promised anything, or guaranteed anything. Lots of great QB's have never won the Super Bowl, and lots of fans have gone their whole lives without seeing a title.
All that said - all it would take for me would be getting a headline about Olave or BTJ or someone like that, and I'd be all in for a ring this season.
My goodness, winning 40-9 on the road in the NFL against a supposed up and coming team got me jacked up. It makes this week a whole lot better than how I felt after the dreadful loss to the Falcons-a game I was at.
Sure our team has some issues. But what team doesn't??!! Our defense looked a whole hell of a lot better. So that's a positive. And James Cook had a tremendous game. Its a week to week league. Need to be better than the team you are playing each week. We have our work cut out for us this coming week, that's for sure. But I just hope that the coaches put in a really good game plan (that means you over rated OC Joe Brady) to give us a chance. That's what good teams do. Its going to be exciting. I know that.
Just looking at the Super Bowl as November approaches, and the season loses its fun. We will have a shot come the end of the season. Josh will get back on track, and we will get a good rhythm going forward. So I am excited every Sunday because its the NFL baby. Its football. Between watching the Bills. Watching the other big games, and gambling all weekend on college and pro football, how you can you not be pumped..
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6 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
I was with you up until this. Shavers has no business being on the field, period. He's not an NFL caliber WR. He looks decent enough lined up against other Practice Squad players and guys who will be out of the league during the Pre-Season.
He's one of only 3 WR's on the roster to dress every game this year and has gone without a catch in 5 of the 7 games. He has not earned more playing time. If you think Coleman has a hard time getting open, you should watch Shavers running routes against actual NFL CB's.
The only thing Shavers should be doing is being the first guy out to make room for whomever we Trade for and/or Gabe Davis when he's ready.
That’s pretty harsh about Shavers. Not saying he is a world beater by any means.
But if he is dressing for games, let’s send him deep off of play action and see what he can do.
Doesn’t he have some straight line speed?
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53 minutes ago, NewEra said:
And he made several clutch catches and blocks throughout the year along with his locker room. presence. We had no WRs last year….yet our passing game was much better than it is now. Josh trusted him and he came through much more often than not. 25 of his 31 catches went for first downs. Many on 3rd down. He doesn’t trust any of our WRs downfield as he trusted Hollins
Cooper played 21% of the snaps….he helped but he wasn’t THAT important where he helped the offense even while he was on the bench 79% of the time.
Cooper had a nice game against Tennessee And caught a long pass down the sideline against the Chiefs in the regular season game at the Ralph. Other than that he sucked. And looked very content standing on the sidelines. The guy looked like he was barely trying when he was on the field.
Beane has done an absolute ***** job fortifying the WR position for us the past 2 years. In an offensive passing league w having a QB like Josh Allen he should be fired if he can’t find better. Coleman plays like a marginal undrafted free agent. What in the name of scouting college players for the NFL draft did the Bills see in this guy to draft him early in the 2nd round? Wow!!
I think Keon has actually regressed since last year. Put Shavers in his spot this week and let him run the routes they would have Keon running. And see how he does. It can’t be any worse.
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1 hour ago, MPL said:
Hairston’s first NFL tackle took a guy out of the game. Thought he looked pretty sticky in coverage but need a closer look at all-22.
I don’t know why, but I’ve just got a feeling — and I think a lot of Bills fans have this feeling —that Jordan Hancock is going to be something. Thought it was very interesting that they had him in for Poyer on obvious passing downs.
I have been saying this since the first preseason game watching Hancock. The kid looks like an NFL safety. He can move, read plays and tackle. He started for the Buckeyes last year on their Nat Championship team. That means you have talent!! Of course talent has to be developed at the pro level. But you have a lot to work with there. Just like Dione Walker. The kid just needs to play. Him and Bishop will hopefully turn into a strong duo on the back end. With Poyer doing some mentoring. I like that group. And with Hairston getting some reps at CB, things are looking up in the secondary. Not sure what is going on with Benford. But he looks a step slow this year. Not horrible. Just not playing nearly as aggressive as the past few years.
But the real problem and liability in the secondary is Taron Johnson. He just can not keep up anymore. Teams are going to target him going forward. Thats what defensive coaches do. They target the weak link. I think our only other option at nickel would be Cam Lewis. Although I don't know if he is any better in coverage. He is a pretty solid tackler though. Anyone else has some thoughts on that? Do we have someone on the PS that can play nickel?
And then there is McDermott staying too loyal to "his guys".
But a great defensive effort overall yesterday. Great to see.
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1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
He has been off the mark too frequently, especially the past few games. No QB is perfect on all throws and Josh always has a few "what was that"'s? But it's been more than usual.
And it's coming at the worst time bc it's not like we have open pass catchers on a regular basis where we can afford to be missing them when they're there. Which sucks for him that he has to take criticism in large part due to things he can't control. But it is what it is. He's gotta stop missing the mark as much as he is.
The throw to his left to Elijah Moore about 15 yards down field, late in the 1st half I think, who was wide open he missed brutally. That was rough.
I could have put that in there better.
Joah doesn’t play in a QB friendly offense. We don’t come out trying to throw all over the field. Other than Shakir, who we don’t use properly, (he is notch or two below Jamar Chase, but dam good ) we have noone at WR who even worries a little (let alone scares) defenses.
That being said, Josh needs to be a little more aggressive w his throws. He doesn’t just let it rip like he used to.
He needs a little Jameis Winston/Fitzie in him. It’s called ego. He needs to tell the coaches this is what I want to do. He is better than McDermott. He needs to start acting that way a bit more.
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8 hours ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:
Isn't Watson always injured? That would be a big risk.
He would fit right in with our current WR’s and most of our defense.
And I saw Kincaid was limited in practice yesterday. Has an injured Oblique. Isn’t that on your side? How the hell do you injure such a thing?
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53 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
No argument from me on either of those. Bills D is in flux right now I think and my hope is that with some more time to gel with new and young players and players coming back into the lineup, it will solidify down the back stretch of the season.
Playoff D is essentially "Why does KC score 2 TDs more per game in the playoffs against us than in the regular season?"
If they can solve that one problem, they will win Super Bowls.
It shows the defense is in flux right now and it's still early in the season. Perhaps it may not be as good, but perhaps it will get better. I don't care what it looks like until we get into the playoffs honestly. If they play their 4 best games of the season in the playoffs, and we have to suffer thru some tough games in the regular season, I'll take it.
All your talk about the defense is great.
But this is still an offensive league. And you need some sort of consistent vertical passing game in this era to be successful.
So we had better figure out how to get some big plays in the passing game. Otherwise every game we play from here on in this season will be a grind.
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Gabe seems like he would replace Coleman more than Samuel. I think Samuel has way more skill than Coleman, if he can stay healthy, and we start throwing him the ball.
As raw as Coleman looks, not sure he could start on a lot of college teams. (Although he probably could on my beloved Wolverines, as we have one of the worst WR group in America. We just love to run run run...Play some pretty nasty defense... And run run run some more.)